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901  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 02:24:50 PM
Yes, there is a huge red flag when people are willing to sacrifice themselves to protect a scam artist.
902  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 11:37:36 AM
I like how Josh states that its a "free" upgrade after he scammed people into paying for a cryptocurrency wallet. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF PAYING FOR A WALLET UNLESS I'M BUYING A TREZOR.
Nothing is free with Josh, trust me.

Now Josh is stating that he doesn't have enough wallets, thats a huge load of shit.
What idiot creates a coin with the capability of 10,000 wallets.
Hes using the same marketing gimmicks since June and I'm tired of him scamming people and lying to people.
Then you have douchebags like r00tdude defending the scam because he knows that we are hurting Josh's sales and people are bailing.

One less BTC in Josh's wallet and the top tier of the ponzi scheme is better than nothing.
903  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 04:09:38 AM
I promise you all free Lamborghini's SOOOOOOn.
904  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 04:06:40 AM
WOW just WOW they really are creating paycoin and I don't mean GAW thats scary.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889101.new#new

Yep a bunch of jokers are going to beat you clowns to market and to the exchanges.
Unless of course the GAW circus can finally get their collective shit together and execute.
Not likely, but won't it be funny if a joke ends up getting their first.

Tourist you are a genius

It clear you don't have a clue how coins get listed on exchanges. With the 8 to 10 of you here running this circle-jerk, it's gonna take a lot of work getting the votes to list your scam.

You can also pay to get your coin listed on exchanges..
I have a couple hundred BTC I've got sitting around.
905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XPY] Paycoin(S) Always Make Money Coin! on: December 11, 2014, 03:43:41 AM
This is a scam coin attempting to rip off our symbol and brand.

Please do not invest into this coin under the assumption that it is related to our company.

Screw off scammer
906  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 03:16:21 AM
Paycoin(S) Announcement thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889101.new#new
If anyone wants to add anything to the OP, let me know!

We're already listed on hashtalk!
https://hashtalk.org/topic/22602/first-they-ignore-you-then-they-laugh-at-you-then-they-fight-you-then-you-win
907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Threatened with a lawsuit :( on: December 11, 2014, 03:14:32 AM
Threatened with a lawsuit Sad

908  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 02:58:01 AM
It must really suck to get left behind because none of you can see the forest for the trees. Permanent residence under a bridge doesn't sound like a great place to be.

Funny thing is one or two of you don't seem to be completely awful people - you have something to offer if you could only pull yourself out of the whirlpool of FUD you've surrounded yourselves with.

Its the other way around, we're actually not stuck here and this is what a real forum looks like.
We're not forced to suck up to a CEO all day and we're not forced to pretend to be all happy.

We're here because GAW either fucked us, lied to us, or sent C&D letters to the wrong people.
We are also here as investigators trying to provide the SEC with as much information as we can obtain.

It's also fun to make fun of you guys by creating Paycoin(s).
909  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 02:51:16 AM
So, which usb miner would be best to mine the new Paycoin(s). I'm only going to get one and only one and plug it into my much neglected pc.
Remember cheap like the budget. I've been meaning to learn how to setup mining hardware.
Feel free to PM me suggestions too.

We're working on creating a pool, I'm looking at open-source pools.
Also, I have hookups at bittrex and I'm sure they will post the coin =)
910  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 02:42:32 AM
So let me get this straight - you guys, for whatever reason, think GAW is a scam, so your solution to that is to create confusion in the less knowledgeable people by producing a cut and paste clone of XPY and putting that out there to scam people or otherwise cause them losses. Do I have that correct?

And you think that somehow Big Vern is going to list your scam coin on Cryptsy as well?

If it's not already clear you guys are scum, it certainly is clear to everyone now, isn't it?

God forbid we even look at the big picture - which is GAW is making a push to bring crypto mainstream - and you jackasses are trying to create a situation that makes every single crypto-interested person think how fucked up this entire industry really is by creating your own scam... whom do you think you are really helping?

If the folks helping with Paycoin at GAW are hopeless morons like you all think we are, is doing this going to change that? No. We're a lost cause according to all of you. Why not just let us be to be manipulated and scammed like you think we are having done to us? Write us off and get on with your lives. Dance on our graves and tell us all you told us so... after it's all crumbled down around our ankles. The only thing you are hurting is the industry itself by going this route.

And GAW thought about the existing paycoin before creating confusion with the existing one?

Hurt the industry? No that made coin they admit is for shits and giggles its as transparent as possible no lies. To show im mining it i'll do a video in my room and spray the floor pink with this is my room. I'll even leave the lights on... nah fuck that i'll just post my wallet address instead its easier.

You should mine it too. Its ready to go now.... no need to buy a staker!!!

Lets make our coin public, I might make an anonymous site for Paycoin(s).

I bet it'll be a bigger hit than the actual Paycoin.

Who wants to start organizing things.. someone start a thread!!!
911  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 02:38:47 AM
So let me get this straight - you guys, for whatever reason, think GAW is a scam, so your solution to that is to create confusion in the less knowledgeable people by producing a cut and paste clone of XPY and putting that out there to scam people or otherwise cause them losses. Do I have that correct?


I'm confused.. you must be talking about the real XPY coin..
lol
912  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 11, 2014, 12:21:10 AM



Already running Smiley

Edit: My new address: 1CMmq13LWHBCPm33qHvX4xSheutuJ7YDXF

Can I download a wallet too?
If you start a pool, I'll start mining.
913  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 10, 2014, 11:28:20 PM
If the wallet is for Friday, when will the source code be released?

I don't think they will release the source code to anything,

Wouldn't charging for a staking wallet essentially make Gawminers a pyramid scheme, especially since they always claim they don't have many but they have unlimited amounts.
It would take 2 minutes to change the source code so that you have more staking wallets, why does he always have to lie to people?

 
914  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 10, 2014, 10:12:53 PM
I think the real problem is that even though they know they are being scrutinized by everyone, being ridiculed by everyone, all their so-called customers are starting to question them and are jittery, you would think they would go all out and fix everything ASAP be it the fantasy coin trading, people's with drawls etc. etc. Bring in extra man power, have people working 24/7 so withdrawals are immediate, call in real tech teams to fix the problems. Yet they don't. Why don't they do such an obvious thing?

Because they can't.

Usually companies that are running a multi-million dollar scam will not hire on more individuals.

And the fact that the previous Chief Financial Officer jumped ship a couple months back and that they can't find another CFO is another red flag. I'm sure he didn't want to be the one dealing with the SEC.

https://coinality.com/jobs/cfo-gaw-miners-bloomfield-ct/

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Risk Management

Understand and mitigate key elements of the company’s risk profile
Monitor all open legal issues involving the company, and legal issues affecting the industry
Construct and monitor reliable control systems
Maintain appropriate insurance coverage
Ensure that the company complies with all legal and regulatory requirements
Ensure that record keeping meets the requirements of auditors and government agencies
Report risk issues to the leadership team, present recommendation(s) for risk mitigation
Maintain relations with external auditors and investigate their findings and recommendations

I doubt anyone wants to be liable for that, lol.
915  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 10, 2014, 09:58:17 PM
We asked Josh in June to show some actual proof of mining, all he could produce was one picture of a rack of scrypt miners mining.
We've been bugging him since then...

Its now December and all he has shown us since is some unplugged miners, and 2 racks of Antminers...

If that isn't a red flag that Josh is running a ponzi scheme, then the hundreds of lies and promises including the promise that you could point your hashlet to a specific address(I bet you guys forgot that promise(I included said docs/proof included that and a ton more to the SEC)).

If you're still with GAW, sell all your hashlets before they're 'locked in'.
Gather up ALL your BTC and either sit on it or invest in something LEGIT, while you watch GAW burn to the ground with lawsuits/court cases/jail time.
916  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 10, 2014, 09:51:19 PM
What gets me is that they claim to have $250,000,000 of investor money and hashlet customer money plus the 10% of of the sales that they make (Gaw claims that they get 10s of thousands of transactions a day)..
With all this money that they have in their pocket, they can't hire coders, customer support reps or at least an executive officer so Josh doesn't have to moderate/shadow/ban individuals on his own and write out huge announcements. Most of his employees are family or friends from the past, he probably can't hire smart individuals as they would probably learn that Josh is running a scam and would have real info to give to the feds.

There is no real excuse for the way he runs his company and lies to his customers, I'm sure every other company making money off of cryptocurrency is laughing at Josh and his clown posse.

 
917  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 10, 2014, 09:17:13 PM
Once the coin is released and thousands upon thousands paycoins are dumped and the wall becomes thinner and thinner and people mine the hell out of the coin just to dump it, where it the wall then?
No one will want to buy paycoins in the future, it offers nothing innovative and its completely useless.

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You won't get that kind of proof from any other company that I can think of.  GAW has bent over backwards to try and satisfy their critics, but the boo-birds and naysayers will never be satisfied.

GAW HAS BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO TRY AND SATISFY THEIR CRITICS?
They have done nothing at all to satisfy us, and he keeps on mentioning that everything is hidden for 'competitive' reason...
It has to be hidden because he doesn't want to go to jail for lying/scamming individuals.
You don't need to hide the amount of miners you have or mining addresses, what are competitors going to do with that.
918  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 10, 2014, 08:39:22 PM
You all missed the point. Its easy to tear someone down...

I think you missed something too.  When Reddit\Bitcointalk\Litecointalk\LTCGeartalk are all saying GAW is a scam and paycoin is going to cause a lot of people to lose a lot of money there is a problem.  Only HT talks about how great paycoin is, well that's because GAW owns it and operates it and if you say anything bad about GAW you get banned and have your post deleted.  If HT was a book it would be 1984.

Yes, has to be the most hated company on Bitcointalk\Litecointalk\LTCGeartalk and Reddit\r\bitcoin, you'd think people would take a hint.
It also seems like hashtalk's post numbers have been dwindling and I'm sure GAW has noticed that sales have slowed.

He made enough money that his Grand Kids will be driving Ferraris, He figured out a way to funnel every idiot into investing in Paycoin.. and he can wash his hands with Paycoin without owing anyone shit and walking away with 25,000 bitcoins.
919  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 10, 2014, 08:33:33 PM
Scott, did you get an email asking for your phone number from the SEC? Someone else who I know who made a report recently got a phone call.
I sent them back an email with my phone number and I immediately got a call from them.

I talked to a 'senior counsel' employee for about 30 minutes, it was mainly about gawminers and I was told to send them all the info I have via email.
I sent him all the TOS revisions I had copied and other info I won't state but I guess GAW didn't cover themselves from the SEC from the beginning, they only protected themselves about a month ago.
He knew all about cryptocurrencies surprisingly, I thought I would have to explain everything.

Anyways, did you talk to them yet Scott?
Yes. I have been in contact via phone and email with multiple agencies including the SEC, but cannot get in to too much detail about specifics just yet.

Scott-

So it seems like they're actually doing some investigating at least, I hope they find some other dirt on them depending on what others reported. I gave them as much info as possible, I kept logs of hashtalk/zencloud/gawminers from June since I noticed they try to delete data constantly.
920  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 10, 2014, 08:17:31 PM
just curious... do any of you people have jobs? all i have seen on this site is a bunch of bullbutter since i got involved in january. its starting to look like this site and sites like it are more the problem with crypto than anything. what did you all do while satoshi was making his statement in the world? bad mouthing gold? or the euro?

instead of complaining and misquoting someone trying to make his mark like a bunch of liberal democrats, go make yours. or is that too hard for simple trolls?

Okay there Josh Garza, stop making accounts.
We all know you own multiple reddit/bitcointalk/hashtalk accounts that praise you and you're known for that.

Why don't you just post here under your main GAW_CEO account instead?


I know some individuals are dumb but I don't think there is anyone dumb enough to openly support a scam for no profit to them.

We are trying to help people realize that Gaw is a terrible investment and they should either save their money or invest it elsewhere.
Buy gold/silver, that is definitely a wiser investment than gaw scam.
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