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9021  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: August 06, 2016, 02:55:59 AM
If Gambling was not introduced then many people have to do the hard work for earning money.

This sounds almost correct if by earning money you mean running a gambling business. There's not much of a work to do, you just need to organize a few games and get a lot of money to for your bankroll. After that you just sit and process payments. Most of the difficulties lie in the field of security and avoiding attention of police, unless you run legal business. And of course you need to advertise your business.
9022  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: August 06, 2016, 02:38:27 AM
Is it really true that if someone want to earn big from gambling he need to make a higher bets? Yes he can also loose but if he is lucky enough he can earn big amounts too. People can not make profits with lower bet amounts like .05 etc. you need a higher amounts bets.

Looking on gambling as source of profit is a very bad idea, you will always have a negative expected value. Also, if you can afford to lose a big sum, than either this sum is not big for you or you are crazy.
 In other case, if you can't afford to lose a big sum (for example, if it's all your money and you need to buy food, pay bills, etc), than you definitely shouldn't gamble, because the negative value of loss will be much bigger than the value of win.

So, when you think about big bets, always ask yourself what will happen if you lose. How hard it will hit you, do you really ready to give up that money or no?
9023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in Bitcoin Casinos are really worth it? on: August 06, 2016, 02:07:56 AM
Yes it is worth investing. Much better then playing. You will get lots of small payouts that will add to something a lot bigger and will be more enjoyable to watch grown rather then lose it .
No, no it is popular misconception about investing in bitcoin casinos. Do you really think you can't lose all of your invested money when you are investing in a casino?
You are wrong. I will take only 1 big lucky bitcoin whale to demolish a bankroll of a casino and take all your 'invested' money away.

Casinos usually have limit on a maximum amount that can be won with one bet (which is determined by the size of a bankroll), so whales are forced to make a huge amount of bets to win big (in your example, losing all investment means that casino loses whole bankroll). And when someone is making big amount of bets, the house edge will come up.
So, If casino has this rule investors are relatively safe, they won't see any big loses. This is actually the reason why casinos accept investments, they want bigger bankrolls to increase their maximum win amount for a single bet, to attract more whales and highrollers.
9024  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gamble small amount i win and when i gamble big i loose. on: August 06, 2016, 01:31:31 AM
I think you have a confirmation bias, you simply don't notice small loses but notice big loses because they hurt much more. Just make sure that your gambling sites are provably fair.

I personally lost almost all my big bets, but I made only a few of them, so the sample size is not big enough to say "I'm losing too much high bets". The same might be true for other people.
9025  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: August 06, 2016, 01:19:23 AM
Hello!

I've got a few coins on the side and I'd like to make them work.
Which gambling site do you advise me to invest in the bankroll?

Crypto-games.net is very good for investment, because their bankroll is only 300 BTC and they share 80% of the profit with investors. I'm investing there for 4 months and never regretted it.

I'm wondering though, what is the approximate % return you got in those 4 months (I understand you don't want to specify the exact amount in btc.)? It looks like a good investment in the long run, especially since players regualarly go on tilt losing more than just the house edge by making too big bets.

A good winning streak and the player actually stopping to cash out can severely cut into any profits though.



It's 4-5% per month on average. There are a lot of highrollers recently, so investors see losses for a few days, but on larger scale it's quite profitable. The bankroll keeps increasing, was 350 before BTC crash, so it might become a bit less profitable in the future, if new big investors will come.



Crypto-games.net also keeps more of their statistic open than other sites, here's is their total profit chart.



I've found that it's usually better to invest with altcoins there, less bankroll, so on some days you can make quite a big profit.
But choose the ones that are used frequently.

If you invest Bitcoin, you'd need to invest quite a lot to see any significant profit.  

But smaller bankrolls also mean more risk, I wouldn't feel safe investing in a bankroll proportional to bankrolls of some whales. Even in Crypto-games their profit almost touched zero, before radically soaring, which is great for owners and investors, but very risky, although now all bankrolls seem to be funded well.

By the way, one very important thing before investing is to look on the size of maximum win in one bet. It should be 1% of the bankroll or less, this is a defense mechanism against whales, so someone with thousands of bitcoin can't come and win all bankroll in a few bets.
9026  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 05, 2016, 11:21:52 PM
hello, I would like to try my luck from gambling.

what kind of gambling that you think is easy to make a profit? and what strategies are you using?


The profit you can make from gambling is tied to your bankroll. If you have $1000 you can win $10 with chance of 100 to 1. But if you have $10 the chance of winning the same $10 will be 1 to 1. So, to make a profit you need a very big amount of money and set a very small target, for example 1/100 of your bankroll. So, keep in mind that the more profit you want, the more money you need to invest.
9027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: August 05, 2016, 11:06:56 PM
Gambling is not sickness but it is addictive and large number of people who gamble are easy victim to get addicted to it. It is state of mind which works in many weak character persons like sickness. Gambling has its own effects when someone practice it for loner period of time. It is up to person how deeper he takes gambling in his life. Gambling by itself is nothing.

The problem is, some people get their lives ruined by gambling. They fall into debts, lose all their possessions, sometimes they take loans from criminals who later injure or kill them. Like many addicts, pathological gamblers don't realize their problem unti it's too late, so it's their friends and families who must watch over them and drag them out of unhealthy gambling.
Every gambler should remember to play only for fun with small amounts and never wager any money they are not ready to lose. And even thinking about taking a loan for gambling is unacceptable.
9028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 05, 2016, 10:38:26 PM
Just curious since the last discussion I had was about gambling vs trading. I know trading can seem to be a bit of a gamble as well, but I see it a little bit like poker. It's a combination of math and psychology. Maybe not the same ratio though, just generalizing  Tongue

If done correctly, trading is much safe, in my opinion, because trading is not completely random, there are causes and effects. There are many professional traders, but not much professional gamblers (most of them are poker players). Did you ever heard about someone making a living with dice or slots?
Also, sports betting is probably the closest to trading, since you can try to predict the outcome by analyzing some information.
9029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 05, 2016, 10:04:36 PM

The question is, if you wake up tomorrow with 50 million dollars, would you still gamble for fun, or would you forget about gambling and do other stuff?

No. There are so many better ways to spend your money, you can donate for charity and save some lives, you can fund some researches, you can invest this money or start your own business. There are countless possibilities to make good for yourself or other individuals or society as a whole. But if spending big money on gambling is essentially just giving them to casino owners. So I would only gamble with small amounts and preferably in PvP games like Poker.
9030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: August 05, 2016, 08:24:47 PM
Hello guys I am addicted to gambling.How can I quit this?

I guess you gamble because you think you will win, so maybe try thinking otherwise. Each time you want to gamble just say to yourself "I will lose all my money" and remember all your big loses. This way you will link gambling with negative emotions and it might help you to stop gambling. Also, don't procrastinate, always keep yourself busy and spend time with other people.
9031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 05, 2016, 07:55:07 PM
Well. Do gambling. With 1% target per day. And 0.1% per hour for 10 hours a day. 0.1% is not a big task.
Ur money will be 1.3x per month. Pretty much good if u dont want to loose.
I hope u wont be greedy and choose to keep ur target 10% per day. 1% is risky. But 10% is tooo much risk. I.e. Ur risk will be 10x.
Also if u keep ur target 2x then it will be suicide.
Good luck.

You can and eventually will get a lose streak which will make you lose significantly higher percent than this target. It's better to gamble just for fun with the amount you don't mind losing.
Otherwise gambling is very unsafe, because the longer you play, the more you lose, odds work against you.
9032  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: August 05, 2016, 07:09:06 AM
Hello!

I've got a few coins on the side and I'd like to make them work.
Which gambling site do you advise me to invest in the bankroll?

Crypto-games.net is very good for investment, because their bankroll is only 300 BTC and they share 80% of the profit with investors. I'm investing there for 4 months and never regretted it.

I'm wondering though, what is the approximate % return you got in those 4 months (I understand you don't want to specify the exact amount in btc.)? It looks like a good investment in the long run, especially since players regualarly go on tilt losing more than just the house edge by making too big bets.

A good winning streak and the player actually stopping to cash out can severely cut into any profits though.



It's 4-5% per month on average. There are a lot of highrollers recently, so investors see losses for a few days, but on larger scale it's quite profitable. The bankroll keeps increasing, was 350 before BTC crash, so it might become a bit less profitable in the future, if new big investors will come.



Crypto-games.net also keeps more of their statistic open than other sites, here's is their total profit chart.

9033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: August 05, 2016, 06:03:40 AM
To fight any addiction, you should always keep yourself occupied with something: your hobby, sports, socializing, work, books/movies/games, etc. When you are bored you are very vulnerable to addictions, so keep doing something all the time!
9034  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: August 05, 2016, 05:32:53 AM
Hello!

I've got a few coins on the side and I'd like to make them work.
Which gambling site do you advise me to invest in the bankroll?

Crypto-games.net is very good for investment, because their bankroll is only 300 BTC and they share 80% of the profit with investors. I'm investing there for 4 months and never regretted it.
9035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 05, 2016, 04:59:48 AM
I would also like to point the fact that gambling and investing BTC online is the same. As Investing BTC online its closely related to ponzi schemes so you really gamble your money because there is a chance for them running away with your money.


Sorry, but you don't know what are you talking about. Gambling sites don't guarantee profit so they can't be ponzi schemes. Gambling sites just use investors funds as their bankroll and share their profit/loss with investors accordingly. But ponzi schemes and hyips always guarantee a stable profit to lure their victims.
9036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: August 05, 2016, 04:54:21 AM
It's the same as extreme sports, people like the feel of overcoming a danger. So when gamblers win they are happy not only because they got profit, but also because they didn't lose their money.
9037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: August 05, 2016, 04:23:40 AM
do you like slot games ?

Slots usually have the biggest house edge so they are quite depressing to play for me. But making 4 or 5 hits feels really good.
9038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how many gambling sites have been hacked? on: August 05, 2016, 04:20:49 AM
I like to delve into bitcoin history a lot. as we all know there've been a ton of crypto exchanges that have been hacked, but i'm really struggling to think of any gambling sites that have been hacked. maybe I haven't been paying enough attention.

does anyone know how many there've been? they seem like obvious targets to me with masses of coins flowing through them.

what are they doing differently compared to exchanges? i'll guess plenty of exchanges are inside jobs. does this mean gambling site operators are incentivized to be more honest in general too?

Gambling sites like to keep most of their money in offline wallets, they need only fraction of their wallet in hot wallets.

On the other hand, exchanges for some reasons don't use them.

Here's some read:
https://news.bitcoin.com/bitfinex-us-regulation-cold-storage/
9039  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: August 05, 2016, 04:14:17 AM
Maybe luck is still necessary to win any gambling games. Martingale strategy sometimea working, sometimes its not. So you better follow your instinct. You should not rely yourself on that strategy. Do your own style and be more confident.

If it is working only sometimes than it is not working at all. There are no strategies that will increase your chances to win, it's mathematically impossible.
9040  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 05, 2016, 04:08:23 AM
Well what I have observed over the time many people tried their own gambling site by investing money in those and proved them as failed investors. Gambling is taking risk which often leads to loosing as well. I think gambling or investing in gambling both are not good. If you have money keep gambling as hobby or fun and invest in something which is real life project and has chances to grow more in years.

When you invest in gambling you have 2 things on your side: house edge and big number of rolls. Together they generate a steady profit.

I personally see a 3-5% profit per month with my investment over last 4 months, and I'm really happy with it.
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