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9161  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Getting rejected in all signature campings???! on: August 12, 2016, 07:18:46 AM
If you dont like to be rejected on joining signature campaigns then build up  your account with a good quality post for which this thing would be a very big help in future if youre planning to join those campaigns since most of signature campaigns  would  first to check  the post quality of a participant if they found out that the quality is good then you get accepted right away.
9162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 12, 2016, 07:12:19 AM
The safest way to gamble is to withdraw after you won so good amount (don't be greedy) and not try to recover if you lost, just accept it and move on.

If youre lucky enough and if you have self control then you can control you losses but  remember you dont win anytime on the other day. I dont believe there are safe  methods to gambling on preventing such losses because its only a matter of luck. If you dont want to loss money then the safest way is  not to play gambling at all.
9163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: August 12, 2016, 07:08:27 AM
Hello
Well I don't prefer gambling at all but once on Primedice someone tipped me some BTC and I went on rolling it at 1.1x multiplier. Just after 2 bets I lost it all. From that day I resolved never to gamble again.
Good Luck!!
Its a good thing you didnt gamble again, i used to play in primedice too and had lots of loses, but it did not stop me to play again because i want to get back my money and now i realized its not a good decision because i will end up penniless. though i didnt cry because of that i just promise to myself that i will gamble but with limitation.

Majority of users commits the same mistake if they loose at initial stage, they start gambling more hoping to recover their losses but unfortunately it never happens in fact they keep on loosing more and more.
Of course, because we don't want to stop gambling as loser, it is just normal to chase our bets but it is advisable to have a certain limits which majority of the gamblers also failed to understand, chasing our bets is just part of the strategy and it still requires discipline.
Not all people have the same mind set of yours, some people can accept the fact that they can also lose in gambling. We can stop gambling even if we are a loser in the end. But of course it is the best feeling if we won the jackpot in the end of our game, but let you think of this, after you win the jackpot would you stop for now? of course you don't cause for sure your thinking that you can also win again and again.
Majority of the gamblers are after of the money and that is what matters to them, you cannot dictate them on what to do although they know already their chances when gambling that aims for big money. Human are greedy and that is the main reason why we cry in gambling as we do not know when to stop and take our profits.


In short, " Greediness" is the most common problem especially to gamblers whom always  targeting for  huge winnings in playing gambling but sad to say their hopes just vanished everytime they suffer  long lose streaks. We cant really dictate them since  thats their  choice on such thing.
9164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 12, 2016, 07:04:41 AM
It has not taken over my life as I had to put a stop to it or it would have ended my life very early on.
It is hard to stop an addiction but you have to find some else to replace it good or bad. Hopefully good because the other bad addictions will just compile the problem even worst then it already is.
I turned to gambling addiction by switching collecting birds, one of which is the birds love bird. if I continue gambling until today probably would not like it in my life. even now I was using bitcoin wisely. trading is one way to process the bitcoin so that we benefit.
Gambling and trade bitcoin on the exchange, are two different things, one of which actually is more profitable and less risky.

Both are risky. Both can turn into huge profit fast. But here's the trick: gambling is ONLY about luck; trading can be done with a little bit of strategy too. If you hear about some currencies going down/up before everyone else does, you can become a millionaire overnight.

yes both have risks, but the risks in trading safer than gambling. if you have a good strategy, it can reduce the risk. also lost in gambling can be lost in an instant, as compared to trade. when lost, could be an advantage if you patient to wait price recover.

But there is no really good strategy that can make you profit though, all strategy is only slower your balance from ending too fast though if you keep on playing it agaian. Trading always is much safer though if you only trading your btc to your fiat but to play altcoin i dont think that they you will really get profit because altcoin is unpredictable which is will be the same as gambling. Anyway gambling only lead us to addiction then it will wreck your life if you cant control it
That's the problem with people because we always want to fell thrill and make money at the same time. Trading will not give us a thrill but it can give us a great opportunity to make money, we need to have our own priorities in how to make money.

Trading is  better  in any way compared to gambling, it may not give us the chills and the excitement but   learning in trading is worth of our time since it could be developed in future and could make our earnings more  bigger and bigger since we are experienced enough  as the time passes by.
9165  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do you convince people to use Bitcoin? on: August 12, 2016, 07:00:40 AM
Convincing anyone regarding  bitcoin would be difficult   especially if they dont have any ideas  on digital stuffs  or other things that are related to interenet because there are some people  doesnt still know  even internet things how much more in bitcoin unless if youre encountering tech geek people then  they surely cope up the ideas  that you would explain to them.

You need to be really a good speaker when you are explaining it to someone as if they find it simple and interesting at initial stage then they will surely start using it.

I agree, it all depends on how you approach and how you explain to them about bitcoin. First you must introduce to them in a correct,simple and precise information about it and they should  understand it easily, dont even try to explain or even try to say complicated words or things because they might not get interested to it if they found  out or heard  it  a difficult thing.
9166  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: August 12, 2016, 06:57:22 AM
Someone told me a while ago about his strategy on investing different sites just to make profits. He targets those new doublers or those who pays you an interest daily just for investing your bitcoins there, example they give 5% daily then after 25 days of joining he will leave the site with his capital to avoid being scammed. So no need to wait for that $100  price to buy.


It all depends on what site they are investing their money. Some sites would last long compared to others and some  would  be gone quickly as a matter of days and doesnt let your money make you in roi. This type of techniques are  have a high risk of having a negative profit since you cant predict  how long  would be  the website to be online.
9167  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: August 12, 2016, 06:54:01 AM
Both is good, but it's can't be compared, because you getting your profit with trading just now, investing is for people who will recive their money in future.

Just remember, trading is also an investment because you put your money into it to earn some profit out of it. Then its all the same but there are lots of investment which they differ some may gain profit for a long time or in a short time basis. You can choose freely on what investment would you like just  be careful on choosing the right one.
9168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Kim Dotcom Predict 2000$ per Bitcoin ??!! on: August 12, 2016, 06:51:02 AM
Well good luck with the OMFG #BIT$2000 or what ever. Bitcoin probably wont reach $2000 anytime soon especially after the great price drop and the theft of the 120k bitcoin. But it is likely that the price might rise up again to about 700USD. But we all wish that bitcoin reached $2000.

The price already recovered and we are only less than 100 dollars away from 700, it proven than this time Bitcoin is tons time stronger than the last time an exchange hot hacked, so next pump will be insane, at least 4000+ dollars easy.
Right now, the price of a bitcoin doesnt even reach  $650. Admit to ourselves it will not be rise on that price. I saw other thread that its value will rise up to $9000 a piece. Dont fool yourself. You know it will not rise that easily.
But i believe it will be back at $700 a piece again.

$2000/btc is nearly possible  compare to the other thread saying $9000/btc which is very impossible to reach that certain price since we could all see the price of bitcoin as of now , it always goes down and  suddenly rise a little bit then falls down again. All are just speculation  and we really dont know what would happen. Just remember to make realistic speculations though.
9169  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 12, 2016, 06:47:59 AM
As of now im treating bitcoin  both an investment and a currency since  i seldom used my bitcoin earnings  in my need in the way that i exchange my bitcoin into fiat and some remaining bitcoin earnings i usually save them up and put them into some investments so that i would gain more bitcoin out of it.
I think if you use bitcoin as currency? should you do it to spending with bitcoin itself. not convert to fiat dude? I thought you did not use bitcoin as a currency but as an investment only. because you not pay something with bitcoin ?

Oh im sorry about that pal. Well, thanks for clarifying something, i thought exchanging  bitcoin to fiat will serve as a currency since you exchange it to fiat not  to bitcoin itself in purchasing things. I thought the are just the same but i was wrong. Yes, youre correct  im making bitcoin as an investment as of now.
9170  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: August 12, 2016, 06:42:19 AM

I believe true bitcoin prices in 2017 will grow. And the adoption of bitcoin will be more and more so that many people using bitcoin. 2017 will be better than this year in my opinion.

I respect your opinion but every year there is a big event happening that's gives essence to the bitcoin price.

Starting from the third quarter 2014, bitcoin surprises us many times. If ever there will be a good surprise at 2017 like you are expecting, then that is because of what happen in it's successors years.

Yup, indeed bitcoin always give surprises each year which we have passed. But I am sure in the year 2017 is a pretty good year for bitcoin in giving a surprise. Because I think everyone already knows the bitcoin and just waiting for the time they could use the bitcoin and time is in 2017
The eagerness of merchants to accept Bitcoin is another sign of its enduring strength and market demand. Sure in 2017 we can see enormous growth in bitcoin in terms of its price and popularity.

Eagerness of merchants to accept bitcoin? Like what merchants you are pointing too? If they are eager they can easily play with the risk of price fluctuations and start accepting bitcoin as mode of payment but still today there are fews.

Can you give some example of those merchants that are eager to accept bitcoin?


Yeah there are not many at a moment that are accepting bitcoin as a mode of payment and the fact is they are simply not aware that there is something like bitcoin from which they can accept payments.

many people do not know about bitcoin, so they are not yet ready to use bitcoin as a payment.
but I believe the future will be very widely used bitcoin for payment. because it may be the future of digital payment is better than cash.

Yes things will change in future for sure and we will see many offline shops which will help us to spend our coins directly for making purchases, we just need to wait for sometime to it happen.

It would really takes time for a certain countries  to adopt bitcoin, it all depends on the progress and the influence of bitcoin itself, if that thing would happen then it would be very convenient for use bitcoin users  to purchase anything on stores offline.  Lets see what would be the future of bitcoin.
9171  Economy / Economics / Re: Worst bitcoin decision you've ever made? on: August 11, 2016, 10:43:15 AM
I guess my worst decision ever made in bitcoin is investing in doublers and hyip, that time im new in bitcoin world and can easily fool. so thats how it is, i invested lots of bitcoin, i bought it using fiat but i didnt get any btc in return in hyip it cant be widraw then my friend says i get scammed.

That thing should be really stopped. They target newbies in different areas and using bitcoin as a means of payment. At first I just look at it but sometimes I want to do something or warn others about it

That thing really happens almost all of us since we are also once a newbie,  we get scammed by those sites and other ponzi investments  because we  lack knowledge on those times but as the days and months passed by we  gain more knowledge unto things which we realise that those our common mistake when we are a newbie.
9172  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: August 11, 2016, 10:39:43 AM
I just recently had to convert some of my bitcoins to fiat because I ran out of funds unexpectedly. Normally, I would just hold much and just spend a little on load credits and bills payment. I hope the time will come that the buy and sell price wouldn't have much of a difference. Maybe that is the exchanges' way of earning from their clients. By the way, who determines the exchange rate for the exchanges? Is there a rule or policy that controls exchange rates?

That is their own set of rates that close to the exact price of bitcoin. There is different rates to cover all the expenses and services that those exchanges are giving out to satisfy their clients.

But they have no right to set their rates to really a low one because in the first place, no one will use their exchanges sites if the rates is really terrible.

You are right. I have been to a lot of exchanges and have seen different prices specially when you are buying bitcoin. Some are really using it for their greediness. Anyway I do have a choice. They cant force me.

Even there are exchanges out there  they would  definitely differ in  pricing since its also an investment some exchanges may charge too much and some would charge a little  amount which some buyers would definitely choose on which one is better.
9173  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 11, 2016, 10:36:41 AM
nice point here. i think its based on your experience to manage your money. nice one, man.
most of people buy what they want, not they need.
but for a vacation, its needs.
yeah I think you should be able to resist buying something you want. because of the desire of many people there must be many. so you should be able to buy something that you need only. it will save your money dude

We should make sure that we are not wasting our money on useless thing, and also our need should not become our greed or it will destroy us completely.

It really depends on how a person will deal to it's miscellaneuos spendings. Lots of person has a mind set of buying useless things because they have an extra money. That's why I see it's better if they experience being a bankrupt so that in the future that lesson will lead them to a better person when saving money.

There are lots of people  are like that, they just spend to those things  which is not really  important at all instead of saving it. You are right, before they learn to save they have to suffer or experience those times of bankruptcy so that they would learn but other people dont let this thing happen to them thats why they spend their money wisely and save  some for future use.
9174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 11, 2016, 09:59:38 AM
i think that the best idea would be to find other hobbies

Yes this is the most appropriate solution to stay away from gambling, it is not by getting addicted to another thing because it is going to be a problem again for you and going to ask how to stay away and quit there too. Finding a hobby that you like is going to make it happen, like always playing basketball and other sports.

Making yourself busy on to other things would be very helpful on staying away to gambling  because it would make your mind  to forget about gambling if you focuses into other things. As you said having a another hobby which would be very helpful playing sports game and other things  that are not related to gambling.

That is true if you are going to be busy into something that is much better then it is going to help you to stay away from gambling. if you are a student then just focus to your studies and it will going to help you to stay away from it. Or if you are a professional then it is better if you are going to focus on your full time job.

So what are you gonna after you are done with learning things? You cant keep on learning everyday right? Everyone sure need some their leisure tim thats why before you addict you should stay away and never touch it. After you are in gambling you dont change back that easily. Btw what do you mean by professional? Pro palyer or pro in your job

Maybe he mean a professional  person i guess, with have some college graduate with a  stable professional job i guess. He doesnt  elaborate what kind of professional  Grin
Studying isnt bad at all but you need  some have time to relax yourself and doesnt stressed out too much on studying.
9175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 11, 2016, 09:49:08 AM
Although there are some who actually get rich from gambling, like lottery winners, in general I think you have a higher chance of getting broke than to get rich. So to answer the question, yes there are people who are lucky enough to get rich from gambling but that is a very very very low percentage compared to most gamblers that get broke.
Yes maybe their are some who became rich from gambling but i guess only few. its hard to earn in gambling what more to be rich. i think they were just lucky or they bet big amount and win thats why they became rich.

I am sure that people who are getting rich with gambling are the house edge only. I don't know if there is someone that is a normal player or gambler that did became rich with gambling. Maybe those people or individual that really have a very lucky win and won a big amount of pot as they are gambling. But for the house edge they are really the ones who are becoming rich with it.
Only those people with real interest on how to make money in the gambling have the chance to become rich, in one will take gambling as a form of investment which he will put up a capital or bankroll for his gambling career then he will do necessary measures to minimize his loses and to increase his winning percentage.

Treating is like a business would mean you need to track your record and do not integrate your personal expenses to your business.

I totally and 100% aggree with this. If we are serious of getting money and be rich through gambling, we should do our homework and calculations. We should treat it as a business and work.

To start off, we should have big bankroll and divide it into many sessions and then follow a system that you will not involve emotions on it.
We can find a lot of methods and techniques in the internet about how to become successful in gambling. The problem with most of the gamblers is on the implementation process as they are more easily affected with the emotion in gambling and they cannot implement the procedure effectively.

I totally agree with you - I was once guilty of this. Instead of having an effective strategy of betting, I change my way of betting because I am no longer happy with small wins (although stable) and after I changed my betting strategy and let my emotions run, I lost all of my bankroll..
i was also in to this situation when i started to get bored of the stable small earnings i was doing then  i started to let my emotion run and go for higher bets then started to lose everything in an instant. Note: that was before Smiley

Thats Greediness and  that thing would definitely make you broke in the end  and lose all your money. Dont let your emotions control you if you are playing gambling since this thing would make you easily  make you put higher bets which could possibly result to a total loss.
9176  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: August 11, 2016, 09:46:42 AM
Where in the US can you actually use bitcoin to buy anything normal?  The only places I know to spend bitcoin are online.  And no, I haven't spent any in real life and haven't yet had to.  The USD hasn't hyperinflated yet and bitcoin hasn't yet taken over.  Don't think it's ever going to, but in any case I can't find a restaurant or convenience store to spend bitcoin at.  I think if I saw one of those signs "we accept bitcoin" on a shop's wall I'd definitely do it just for the novelty.
That's actually a sign of progress when you see some shops that are accepting bitcoins, that would also mean that they are supporting the platform and by doing that they have help the economy of bitcoins and would attract some competitors of their business to also adopt.

We cant really stop the progress of bitcoin in near future since it wouldnt stop to develop and many would surely adopt it  in next generation since bitcoin  is becoming popular day by day and some countries could  recognize already its existence and  they would decide to adopt  on their place which is really good for bitcoin holders.
9177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: August 11, 2016, 09:37:50 AM
I am make big mistake when i am so greedy so i lose my 0.1 btc when playing dice game
Whereas before i lose i have made good profits and lose it all when i am greedy
I wont do this stupid thing again
you promised will not do it again now , but i believe you will do same mistake later.

it has been a something unique that human have , swearing but violated . especially when you talking about gambling , there will never end. the biggest mistake in your life are repeating same mistake over and over again.

Thats the main thing that most addicted gamblers doing, they just keeping playing  even how many they said that they wont ever play again after suffering from losses.  Greediness is also a bad thing which could  make you end up on nothing, if you see that you are winning you dont have control to yourself and stay betting but in the end you lose all your winnings  same as your capital.
you were right , for those people who say will never gamble again but in fact they still did it or even worse they are the real addicted gambler which need helps , they did not realize they are addicted already .

and if so , the real mistake you can make in gambling are become an addict .

I think a real gambling addiction you don't really notice until it's too late. It is always good to Keep your loses in mind and to gamble reasonable.

hahaha. i agree on you bro. based on my personal experience. i only notice that im almost addicted is when my btc wallet got zero balance. i spend almost my btc savings in cloudbet sportsbetting. im on hype on betting on my favorite baseball team and they are keep losing. In that day i said i will never gamble again. and thanks God im still gambling again. hahaha

Haha! Then youre a certified  gambling addict.  I do agree also that sportbetting is really addictive if you have trust on your  team  and you believe they can win until the end, thats why you are betting again and again for hoping that they may win.
9178  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: August 11, 2016, 09:13:00 AM
for me the best way to explain bitcoin to women is to explain that bitcoin can be used to purchase goods every day.
with it, women will be increasingly keen to use bitcoin.

but we must give our wife somthing maybe the pure gold ring, then we introduce it to instal bitcoin wallet and send 1bitcoin to him wallet:Smiley
I think to give motivation to our ladies need a special trick. you can not directly give them bitcoin. because of course
they may not be interested in bitcoin / need special tricks such as a video depicting the greatness of bitcoin ?

That way of convincing  would be effective somehow but if  women doesnt have interest at first sight just expect  the refusal till the end since they stand up for all their decisions and its up to them on how do they understand bitcoin, if other women found it complicated then for sure it  would easily  refuse about this thing.
9179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 11, 2016, 09:09:18 AM
i would invest because that would be less risky to lose all my money not like in gambling
You are right to say that investing in a business or even something to trade, you can earn without risk. And gambling on the contrary, you can lose everything.

Remember to diversify your money into few different segment to reduce losses in worst cases. Apart from investing in business and trade, you can also invest in some good casino bankroll to earn good profits over the time. These casino bankroll investments are high risk so invest small % of your money.
I have been following that method in investing and it gives good result to me, it is true that investing in any investment site is very risky so we need to diversify our investment but I am just lucky enough I was able to find a good place to invest my money which are the popular and trustworthy gambling sites.


They are both risky gambling and investing, but if you are a wise person you are going to choose both of it. Invest into trading and also in gambling.
You just need to know your limitation and going to manage properly your investments there are people who are able to do both investing in gambling sites.
it's depends on each personality , if someone didn't like to gamble then they would be better to invest their money only not to gamble , but if someone didn't like to invest and waiting for long time to earn money then they would just gamble their money only without needed to invest them first.

Yes, its all about  peoples decision on how to manage their funds , we have our intellect to choose  to those things we wanted to do. We cant stop someone  on what decision  she/he would made  it doesnt matter what other people would say but if youre wise enough  then  we should go for investing if we seek for future profits.
9180  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to tell your Girlfirend about BitcoiN?? on: August 11, 2016, 09:06:28 AM
I already told my girlfriend about the bitcoin about 2-3 months ago but she didnt seem to be much interested in that, she only said yes yes and said i will see later.I also make her join this forum but after that she didnt done any thing,and then i also stopped telling her about bitcoin.
Lol I thought she was just speechless without any definite action. it means she is not interested in bitcoin dude. you should know it
if she is really interested in bitcoin I'm sure sh will use bitcoin ? or at least find out about bitcoin right ?

She definitely dont have any interest even she always saying yes every time you asked her. So, dont bother up yourself on asking her again since you would definitely get the same answer all over again. If she dont have any interest on a certain thing then leave it then.
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