Must not be hope of everyone your prediction of the new price of bitcoin. Even your English is a little difficult to be understand if the meaning of your post is that the price will go 250 us dollar because was before 500 us dollar this is not an argument about your given final price of it. I can tell you a fact (so not words like in your case) that can make true with big probabilities the increase again of the price of bitcoin and even soon. The halving. Will decrease the flow of bitcoin in market and with the same demand (have no reason until today to be decreased even this last) the price have high probabilities not only to go higher but even to remain there or a few less. So better hope mine and not yours "desire" about the price. For the only reason  that mine "desire" is based in fact and your only in words and imagination.

So bitcoin is not illegal at Taiwan. Was the same person which declared the opposite of that has declared some days ago. So there is a very high sign of seriousness of this kind of governor. How can trust people persons like him? Cannot have words to do other interpretations. Can be other words to comment such kind of news? The same person tell opposite words within days about such important things. With the same easiness like speaking with him's wife about the new television to buy...

See for more this article: http://bitcoinnewsy.com/bitcoin-news-taiwan-fsc-minister-says-bitcoin-considered-commodity-not-banned-or-regulated/

Now that the big euphoria has gone and all us who hoped the verified of our big dream to see finally bitcoin at high levels of price are quieter, can be made the reflections from all this pleasant event. We had a very high increase of the price of bitcoin which reached more than 100% of its initial price. A jump which honor bitcoin. But then, slowly and with steps, this increase become decrease. Until today this price is not yet arrived at the initial price but seems to be stopped or move up and down at the level of 30%-35% above the initial one. I think that yet is a very good price if bitcoin will remain here. Will testify a real increase of demand and further spread of it and if this is true this price will be the beginning of the newer one cycle. Which maybe will repeat the same cycle as it was the last. And if this story will continue in this way, that will be the verification of our dream. Bitcoin at the price wondered by all of us. Go for it! Slowly but sure.

Really!!! If this is told by you and in the way write by you for sure is true. Cannot be never wrong. Then the examples given by you which argues your convincing thought are devastating. No one of those cannot be put in discussion. Are the end of everything.

But lets go to the facts. According to Investopedia http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/commodity.asp :

1. A basic good used in commerce that is interchangeable with other commodities of the same type. Commodities are most often used as inputs in the production of other goods or services. The quality of a given commodity may differ slightly, but it is essentially uniform across producers. When they are traded on an exchange, commodities must also meet specified minimum standards, also known as a basis grade.

2. Any good exchanged during commerce, which includes goods traded on a commodity exchange.

So, according to zenitzz, we have a basic good that is interchangeable with other commodities of the same type. It is clear that bitcoin is a commodity because all the things bought with it are of the same type of it. All the computer bought at Dell with bitcoin, all the xBox bought at Microsoft with bitcoin and all the other things bought at internet with bitcoin (porn, movies, gambling etc.) are at the same type with bitcoin. Have its qualities (so with all of those can be bought everything) and are an invention of a peer to peer technology. More convincing arguments than the above zenitzz cannot find.

Then, always according to zenitzz, commodities are most often used as inputs in the production of other goods or services. Sure, zenitzz learn to all us that bitcoin is used widely to produce all the above things bought by it. So bitcoin is used as input in the production of computers, xBox, in the producing of porn, movies, gambling etc. Who of us have not tasted a very good porn make and played from bitcoin itself. Another undeniable argumentation made by zenitzz.

For me are enough those arguments to not go further. Who want to go forward can continue with the other arguments made from this brave, sure and deep cognitive of bitcoin.

Maybe needed to do ever one definition which fulfill the above argumentation of zenitzz and without which can be created some doubt about everything written above. What is the meaning of good.

According to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_(economics) :

In economics, a good is a material that satisfies human wants and provides utility, for example, to a consumer making a purchase. A common distinction is made between 'goods' that are tangible property (also called goods) and services, which are non-physical.

Then always according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangible_property :

Tangible property in law is, literally, anything which can be touched, and includes both real property and personal property (or movable property), and stands in distinction to intangible property.

The big zenitzz tell in this case only one important thing which is a devastating argument in support of its inspiring theory: bitcoin is a good (commodities) which is a tangible property: so which can be touched (as it is written in the above definitions). Who of us have not touched with him's hands the beautiful coin (commodity) named BITCOIN.

Good work zenitzz. Can't wait others convincing affirmations like the one written in your quoted post by me. With the same determination and security. And even with the other explanations make in my post.

We are November 21 today and seems that your prediction will not be true. Bitcoin is stable at 220-230 us dollar since some days. But lets forget the 700 us dollar for the moment and discuss about the actual one. I will be much more than happy and satisfied if it will remain here. I has such hopes when bitcoin remained for few days at the level of 280 us dollar. But was not possible. He decreased and is here in this price. But even if remain here it will be a great achievement. We must remember that at the beginning of the increase the price of bitcoin was near 250 us dollar. if the final will be 320-330 us dollar it is not bad at all again. It is a final significant increase.

I think that is simple to find the why. The demand. It is the demand at the given time (moment) which make possible this kind of gaps. More demands (or even speculations in the direction of the demand) more higher the price. Less the demand, less even the price. There are to many times when are registered gaps. Not so high but there were. Such kind of big gaps were only when MtGox have its problems. In that time the price of bitcoin with us dollar it was very different at MtGox compared to the other exchanges. And no one cannot acted (to have profit from these big gaps) because of the stop of withdrawals set by MtGox.

Seems without meaning to be a company and to not have money to upgrade your computers. First of all, if don't have the needed funds that mean that they can use the windows which have. Microsoft offer update (protection) for the previous versions even after to many years after the launch in the market of the new versions. Second, Seems to strange for me that a company have not founds to make upgrade for its computers. The amounts needed are not to much according to me if we are talking for a company. If a person is able to make the upgrade of its computer the company must be ten times more able. Because is in the market to make profit. The person not.

I have heard about this site and have heard good words (not mentioned as scam as are mentioned to many other cloud mining sites). But, according to me, all the kind of mining are to risky to invest on it. For the simple fact that first the earnings are predicted to be to low and the break even to be not near of the date of investing. All those make with increase of difficulty chosen by the site. But these kind of data are totally without base and totally hypothetical ones (and this is the second reason). Cannot exist even one fact or reason which can make the happening of those of argues those. The difficulty cannot predicted in any way. So any investment is in risk and no one cannot be sure if it will be break even or if it will be profit. And if yes, when. So even if the "when" can be, the investment can result in vain, if it will be after two or more years (especially for big amounts of money/bitcoins).

If you don't like those forget those. No one forces you to earn from those or to contact in some way those. Faucet don't make anyone to think that using those can be rich: and for more fast. Only people like you that want to eliminate those with stupid reasons can think in this way. With the amounts given by faucets needed tens and hundreds of years to be rich. Staying all the day clicking and clicking without interruption.

If we live an a free country everyone can do everything he/she want except harm the others and touch the freedom of the others. the faucet don't such things so the owners of those have all the right to do what they want. I'm curious what would do you if someone give money gratis? Have to many and want to make several people happy donating some of its money. You will refuse those? If yes, sorry to tel, but I haven't hear in my life person more stupid than you. I don't. I will accept those with pleasure. It is enough that must be not dirty money. And the owner be a respectable person.

Good. I had really some bonus from the bitcoin that I must have from my work here. I have not traded never in my life. So it will be the first time. Need to learn first. Hope to win something. It is told: have the luck of the beginner. I am beginner so I must win....

I found recently (about two weeks ago) a very interesting way to invest bitcoin. I am actually in the phase of testing it investing very few bitcoin (only one). Everything seems very correct. In the exact hour and minute in my account is credited the everyday interests. Are people who have invested thousand hundred us dollar (because can be invested in bitcoin and us dollar) and are people with more than thousand referrals. There are huge amount of data about everything have to do with the site (business) and to many testimonials from various investors. Is declared even the source of their profits. It is online for about 5 years and has about 9 year of development since its conception as a business model. Has withdrew millions of us dollars since its beginning. To many other words to tell but better see and read with your eyes (if you would be interested). PM me (if interested) to send the reflink.

1 k every three days with cpu seems something "irrational" in our days. But where find this guy this possibility? here was some announcement for possible earnings in the future or something like that? Because no one have knowledge about cryptos at these times. And where found him the courage to act? So what make him to believe that the little program which produced bitcon using its cpu was not a virus or spyware or something that can damage its computer but it was him's golden future? Exist some story about this case? I am very curious to know that. If someone know something about it here post here please.

I don't think that exist such kind of people of players. Are only urban legends. There exist only one rule in and about every gambler game. The loss of all the money in long term. Maybe are very few them which are excluded from this rule. And, if exist (I doubt highly in this) these people cannot be taken as example in any way. Must be very very few. If exist, are only the smartest ones who play always with little amounts, who when loss these amounts go at home, who if win don't play more but go at home and who the next day after the win, play the exact same amount like the other days (following always the same rules).

I think that this kind of players exist only in theory because everyone in long term are attempted to not respect these rules one day. If they will not respect those then everything change and they in long term will lose all their money. The same like all the other players.According to me any human kind cannot resist at the addiction which can be created by gambling when it is played in continuation.

Cannot be possible. For to many reasons. If with the words "future world money" you mean to be used as a only currency of the world in every country. This, according to me, is totally impossible. Cannot be replaced every national currency with bitcoin. First of all because bitcoin is limited in amount and the economies need every year new money (if verified growth). But even with the today value of the overall amount of overall national currencies I think that bitcoin cannot be able to replace those. Its market capital must be much more lower than the overall capital market of all the national currencies. To not mention the impossibility to make national monetary policies and that cannot exist a national currency which cannot be owned by the given country.

If with "future world money" you mean the use of it in addition with all the national currencies but with much more spread, value and market this is the hope of everyone of us here in bitcointalk. And naturally that this is ok even for me.

Bad guess according to me. Both prices are already reached or are near the actual one. Hopefully must be higher. Especially after halving. I am very curious if everything will go according to the theory. If yes it will be the first sign of the big future of bitcoin. If not I cannot tell nothing. Except that can be told for sure that it will be very hard to make predictions even theoretically then.

The future of bitcoin, at least my future of bitcoin, will be for sure the overall spread of it in all the world. And for sure its use from most of them which will know it. That mean big demand which will be increased in time. And hopefully big price. At least theoretically. The problem is if this use and this demand will be legit and exist and accepted in the light of the Sun or it will be in the black market and in the "darkness" of the black market. Everything will depend from the approach which will have all the countries of the world in confront of bitcoin. Especially the mos developed or important ones.

If they will be hostile with it then the black market will flourish. The most significant example is Russia. To many knows that bitcoin is banned there. Even, that have proposal from one member of Government to put in jail who use bitcoin. But yet the bitcoin black market there flourish every day more. If this happen in one developed country as it is Russia, everyone can imagine what can happen at the other ones which are less developed compared to it and with Authorities less effective.

If the countries (or at least the most developed and important ones) will regulate bitcoin then everything will be ok for everyone (country included). The most significant example is USA when bitcoin is regulated and flourish hundred and hundred bitcoin businesses which create employment, money for everyone involved with those (Authorities included which have its taxes) and freedom to act and to accumulate for them who use it.

Then you are not read well what I have wrote in my post. I repeat part of it: "I have told (wrote) always that if you continue to play for to much time in a casino or online gamble site ...."

You told in your post that "not everyone keep playing with their winning money and some learn to stop it right away after profit. I know some real life friend that gamble alot with our local sportsbook and stop after they win some good amount "

First, if so this kind of people (your real life friend) are not subject in my post because they are not continuing to play. And me in my post write only for those who continue to play.

Second you are in contradiction with/in your post and your words. If they stop after win some good amount how is possible that they gamble a lot. If gamble a lot (as you told in your post) mean that they continue to gamble even after they win the good amount. Gamble a lot don't mean gamble only one time, win a big amount and then stop gamble, but gamble even after have a good win.

Conclusion: First, must read well what is write in the post you want to contradict. Second, must understand well what is the meaning of the words written in the post which you want to contradict. Third, think well about what do you write against the post you want to contradict. Four, after thought well and decided what to write against the post that you want to contradict don't write never bullshit that you did with your post as it is argued in my above words.

Edit: I saw after posting my post that even one other poster above my post have found your written bullshits and mentioned those in him's post (needed time to write my post and meanwhile were posted other two posts).

There is no any other third party in the case of bitcoin CREDIT card. I am not talking about bitcoin debit card (which even those exist, so are a fact, independently what must or can tell you and me about the trust). The bitcoin credit card (must do) work very differently compared to bitcoin debit card. See my previous post to see how work the bitcoin credit card, in which are used the bitcoins and you will see that the only person which have command on the bitcoin used by this credit card is only the owner of the credit card (and the bitcoins). No one other. No any kind of third party.

But even without the above explanation the fact about the existence of bitcoin debit card mean that your word about the trust and the other things are only word. The reality is another. And the reality is over all the parties. You will have reason only the day when in the market there will be no more bitcoin debit card. Until that day, repeat that your's are only words.

For what is necessary read the above my post. As for the other things written in your post read below.

What are you talking about? What have to do the loan with the credit card. If i have revenue in bitcoin I can deposit or send the amount of (the needed) bitcoin to the provider of the card the day in which i must pay all the expenses made with my bitcoin credit card. That's all. Everything finish here. I pay my debt to the provider of the bitcoin credit card and the next month begin the same story from the beginning. I can use it again for everything I do or need. It is so simple like one and one make two.

What to do is a million-dollar question.

I can suggest you a very good (according to me) investing site where I had invested myself. To not forget that is good for me but you must evaluate yourself it. Must not be so for you. The money are yours and the decision to invest there must be only yours. Must not be taken in consideration my words. I want to tell only that the website has 5 years online without interruption and pay everyday. There are a mountain of other data within the website which show everything about it and give all the possible knowledge about its activity, source of the earnings and any other kind of data. According to me, if you invest there, even not all your bitcoins but only half of those you can have the lost bitcoins in trading in less than three months. If you are interested PM me to give you the reflink. In this way you can evaluate yourself what to do and if this option is interesting for you.