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921  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 06:53:37 PM
Just a reminder of what this big bulltrap we had lately was:


I'm gonna spell it out for you guys:




Coinbase news was a pump&dump, exactly like the LTC on Huobi pump and all the other countless attempts to dump higher!
Insiders buy before anyone knows anything, all the other people buy at the announcement and at the countdown. Smart traders dump as soon as the site is online!


It's not difficult to understand! It's always the same thing.

Good thing coinbase is bringing regulation to BTC right? LOOOOOOOOL






The crash has officially resumed.
You're welcome.

It was just correction and it didn't even fall back to 245 but it stopped at 265.
It will take a little bit of time to gradually go down again, look at the bulltrap we had in november. same thing.
922  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 06:43:50 PM
Just a reminder of what this big bulltrap we had lately was:


I'm gonna spell it out for you guys:




Coinbase news was a pump&dump, exactly like the LTC on Huobi pump and all the other countless attempts to dump higher!
Insiders buy before anyone knows anything, all the other people buy at the announcement and at the countdown. Smart traders dump as soon as the site is online!


It's not difficult to understand! It's always the same thing.

Good thing coinbase is bringing regulation to BTC right? LOOOOOOOOL






The crash has officially resumed.
You're welcome.
923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 06:30:37 PM
924  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 06:29:10 PM
925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 04:51:35 PM
ARE YOU HAPPY?


You made somebody lose 5770 BTC in a margin call because he went long when you screamed "last chance to buy!"!!!



In liquidations at OKcoin:


OKCoin Margin Call
2015-01-26 23:39:23 Close Long $270.50 15608Cont≈฿5770.0555


Where did you get that okcoin info?
You need to have an account.
You go to the "Trade" page, you go to "Liquidation", you click "Last 7 Days: Filled" and you have all the margin calls of all users.
926  Economy / Speculation / Re: Shorts going down! on: January 26, 2015, 04:37:36 PM
Shorts being wiped out in the last pump?

Part of the pump was shorts being closed not BTC being bought.
Shorts can have a nice reset.
Market doesn't have much shorts to squeeze anymore.

Incredibly bearish  Wink
927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 04:26:07 PM
And there we go to 270$
People already dumping  Undecided

But what made them start dumping and killing BTC again??? What's in the news that's taking down BTC?

Too many people following that "Buy the rumor, dump the news" stuff.
That's why we had the pump in the first place  Wink
928  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 04:09:21 PM
I'm serious guys.

If you don't know what's going on you are simply clueless. This is your chance to understand what a news hype pump&dump is.
Don't waste it bagholding  Wink

Do we need to refer you to your thread yesterday where you argue the bitcoin price will drop. It rose from 245 to 315.

Ssh.
I thought the "news" was the announcement that coinbase was launching a regulated exchange.

Turns out that the "news" in the "buy the rumor sell the news" was actually the site launching.

Timing was slightly off, but the idea remains  Grin
929  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 04:03:42 PM
Still the same trolls today crying that they can't make any money with this so called shitcoin that's impossible to secure. LOL


I'm gonna spell it out for you guys:




Coinbase news was a pump&dump, exactly like the LTC on Huobi pump and all the other countless attempts to dump higher!
Insiders buy before anyone knows anything, all the other people buy at the announcement and at the countdown. Smart traders dump as soon as the site is online!


It's not difficult to understand! It's always the same thing.

Good thing coinbase is bringing regulation to BTC right? LOOOOOOOOL


I'm serious guys.

If you don't know what's going on you are simply clueless. This is your chance to understand what a news hype pump&dump is.
Don't waste it bagholding  Wink
930  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 04:00:45 PM
I'm serious guys.

If you don't know what's going on you are simply clueless. This is your chance to understand what a news hype pump&dump is.
Don't waste it bagholding  Wink
931  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 03:58:35 PM
COINBASE: BEST PUMP&DUMP EVAAAAAAAAAAH
932  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 03:53:15 PM
I'm gonna spell it out for you guys:




Coinbase news was a pump&dump, exactly like the LTC on Huobi pump and all the other countless attempts to dump higher!
Insiders buy before anyone knows anything, all the other people buy at the announcement and at the countdown. Smart traders dump as soon as the site is online!


It's not difficult to understand! It's always the same thing.

Good thing coinbase is bringing regulation to BTC right? LOOOOOOOOL
933  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 03:43:03 PM
You had a good run, but now it's over, now it's time for the beartrolls again, sorry  Undecided
We'll try to be gentle lol
934  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 03:38:08 PM
We can safely say that the Coinbase 2015 pump&dump is officially over.

Thanks for playing. We appreciate your collaboration.


Now it's time to dump again.





lol
935  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 03:31:59 PM
Good day to you bitcoiners, looks like the pump&dump had more steam than I thought. Angry

But anyway, does that pic tell you anything my friends?




936  Economy / Speculation / Re: An analysis: Bid & Ask Sums on BTC exchanges. Conclusion: no new demand for BTC on: January 25, 2015, 06:07:56 PM
Orderbooks are meaningless. Especially on the Chinese exchanges. Actual fee based trades or borrowed or lent coins and dollars matter.

But I like your sense of desperation  Smiley

Borrowed or lent coins on bitfinex (who blindly follows china most of the time, if you were a trader you would probably know that) matters more than bid sum over time? I think I heard them all now.

Ask users that were actually trading or following the market in 2011-2013 before and during the bubbles if bid sum doesn't matter.


Have a look at the orderbooks on stamp and finex now. They look insanely bullish. Will the price go up? Possibly.

Rewind to when the price was 380. The orderbooks looked bullish. The price was smashed lower by heavy leveraged selling.

The orderbooks do not represent anything except potential.
That's not how you should look at the orderbooks, you shouldn't really compare bids and asks at a given time. What you should do is compare the bid side and the ask side over time, how much they change over time. But especially the bid side.

Simply put, if during more than a year you can see the bid side slowly drying up in all exchanges and not get particularly better, it's a good indication that not much money is flowing in exchanges (and the one that is already there is slowly being pulled, probably) There is no amount of manipulation that can explain that phenomenon except for simply a lack of demand. Don't you agree?

That's what my thread wanted to bring attention to.


Also, one of the most interesting things is this:



There something particularly interesting to note though.
Look at the decline that we have had that bottomed out at $275. Price was going down but the bid sum was slowly increasing.






Chinese buyers were waiting for that target and in fact we saw a short term recovery that lasted quite a while with a ridiculous bulltrap that topped at $475 before resuming the crash.
The same is NOT happening right now (...)
No new fiat money to support a healthy and prolonged uptrend.
937  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 25, 2015, 05:36:20 PM
4 pools controlling more than 51% of the network.

Very decentralized, much impossibility of mining cartels, many trustless currencies, wow.
938  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't rely on Venture capital money - these guys don't know what they're doing on: January 25, 2015, 02:01:57 PM
I'm not saying crypto or distributed ledger technologies are a fad. I'm saying that the bitcoin blockchain implementation and especially the idea of a stand-alone currency that is needed in the system is probably a fad.

A fad on the WSJ front page still getting tens of millions of dollars of VC funding this month alone, after 6 years?!

If it is a fad why are you here on a Sunday?
Have you actually read the WSJ article? Very superficial understanding about bitcoin and the blockchain.
Plenty of hype articles during 2014 right before crashes too.

939  Economy / Speculation / Re: An analysis: Bid & Ask Sums on BTC exchanges. Conclusion: no new demand for BTC on: January 25, 2015, 01:57:01 PM
Orderbooks are meaningless. Especially on the Chinese exchanges. Actual fee based trades or borrowed or lent coins and dollars matter.

But I like your sense of desperation  Smiley

Borrowed or lent coins on bitfinex (who blindly follows china most of the time, if you were a trader you would probably know that) matters more than bid sum over time? I think I heard them all now.

Ask users that were actually trading or following the market in 2011-2013 before and during the bubbles if bid sum doesn't matter.
940  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't rely on Venture capital money - these guys don't know what they're doing on: January 25, 2015, 01:43:16 PM
My main question still remained unanswered:

If there is no guarantee that the bitcoin's price is gonna go up and allow the average Joe to profit from it, why should he buy bitcoin to use it as a currency?


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