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921  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [PULL] remove GUI 'Generate Coins' option on: April 05, 2011, 05:57:06 AM
URL: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/142

Description:

Hide this capability from GUI users, who are unlikely to understand upon first contact that they will waste electricity for year(s), before possibly generating a single block.

This patch does not remove generation, which remains available via a command line option.  It only removes the ability to select coin generation from the GUI.


Agreed.

There is absolutely no need to piss of any new subscribers by tricking them into thinking they can generate bitcoins using their CPU anymore.

The minute they get their $100+ extra electricity bill and inquire as to "why"... they will stop using bitcoin and bitch about us to everyone they know immediately. I would. If I were that dumb.
922  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is A Javascript Based Miner At All Possible? on: April 05, 2011, 05:55:05 AM
Slush made a Javascript miner a while ago. Never released it as he made it for his own test purposes. But here's the thread:
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1925.msg24236#msg24236

Thanks for that, I have just PM'ed him for the basic code. Just want a basic understanding of how a bitcoin is generated, and I believe javascript could show this in the simplest format.
923  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All internet connections are not the same... on: April 04, 2011, 07:22:38 PM
Aren't we all?
924  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / All internet connections are not the same... on: April 04, 2011, 06:49:36 PM
I made a post a week or two back asking what your number of connections on the bitcoin client was showing.

Now I have something quite odd to share with you.

I have ~5 dynamic IP addresses allocated to my apartment.

I was getting ~40 connections max after a few weeks with my windows 7 computer plugged directly into the wall.

Unplug that same computer, and hook it to the internet via Wifi and I have been seeing a steady 8 connections for the last few days. 8 seems to be it's limit for some reason..? Anyone know why?

I ran bitcoin on an ubuntu box in the same apartment and it immediately jumped to 60 or 70 connections within minutes of starting it up.

So I can safely say, that all internet connections (when it comes to bitcoin) are not treated equally.

The real question is why?

I can connect to the same number of seeders whether I download a torrent through my windows computer or my ubuntu box.
925  Economy / Economics / Re: Walmart.com on: April 04, 2011, 09:43:43 AM
That's a very interesting entrepreneurial idea!  It could even be as simple as one of those scratch-off lottery cards, revealing a code to type into a website form!
Similar to like a phone card for those pre-paid phones. You get a card for $15, $25, etc. amounts. Wal-mart *activates* the card by swiping it like a credit card, then those jumbled random numbers on the back are active to transfer X amount of BitCoins to whichever address you specify.

This allows you to buy the cards with cash (no credit/debit trail), but the only issue is really, how many BitCoins do I get for $1.00 for example? That's where the tricky part lies, I'm going to have to poll as many market sites as (they) will allow me to (talking with others about it) to get the conversion rate. So while it's possible that if you buy a $10 card and redeem it that day for more bitcoins than you would have got the day before, the key will be to make sure people understand that when they buy it. So they can buy it has sort of a investment or spending currency if they like.

It's certainly going to be easier to sell them that way to the giants like Wal-mart than to convince them to take BitCoins as payment. As time goes on though and things expand, who knows what the future may hold.

Like buying stock options basically.
926  Economy / Economics / Re: promoting bitcoin is nice, but... on: April 04, 2011, 09:20:45 AM
What good is it to Alice, Bob or Karl if the bitcoins they are exchanging are not able to purchase anything?
927  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Slush vs Deepbit on: April 04, 2011, 06:27:14 AM
Just got home, and noticed that one of the computers was running about 100MH/s slower than the other for some reason...

Looks like since Friday at about 8PM (both started at the same time), I received 18.19 BTC from slush's pool and 21.46 from deepbit... Given that I didn't have a way to check the MH/s average on slush's pool, and that when I got home, it was running a bit slower than the other machine, I have to say my results are inconclusive...

-EP

I would have to agree.

Which computer was running 100mh/s slower? deepbit or slush's?
928  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: your faith in bitcoin on: March 31, 2011, 06:07:48 PM
Somehow I doubt anybody on this forum will vote for the last two options. If you do, you shouldn't be here.
929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What Micropayment Needs Can Bitcoin Fill? on: March 31, 2011, 06:02:29 PM
I whipped out my credit card the other day to make a whopping $0.25 purchase at a city parking meter.

I'm not sure if they have a special deal with Visa or something... but didn't the City just lose some money on that transaction? I thought credit card companies had a minimum transaction fee...

Anyways, what are some other micropayment niche needs that bitcoin can fill?

  • parking payments
  • hot dog/street meat vendors
  • fast food in general (tim hortons up in Canada refuses to take plastic because of the fees, typical orders are ~$1.50)
  • what else?
930  Economy / Marketplace / Re: New auction for a gold coin on bidding pond! on: March 31, 2011, 05:56:49 PM
It's easy to verify gold. Gold is very soft so drilling a small hole will do the trick. If it goes all the way through with only gold filing produced, it's legitimate. If the drill bit stops in the center, you have a dud.

I would hate to see your wife's jewelry set.
931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin font on: March 31, 2011, 03:12:08 AM
What font is used in this graphic?



Thanks. :-)

No idea, but that should be another bounty... coming up with the official bitcoin font. That looks to me to be just a generic italicized font.

Big corporations like Google for example create their own fonts so that nobody can truly copy them online/anywhere.
932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the single largest transaction of bitcoins on the block chain to date? on: March 31, 2011, 03:11:04 AM
Check out --> http://blockexplorer.com/

In the last 300 blocks the largest transaction was 10934.41 btc.

Thanks for that! No "all time" settings huh?

And does that 10934.41 mean it was all for one single transaction? Or just any number of transactions made within a 10 minute period/block hash?
933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Restaurant accepting bitcoins! on: March 31, 2011, 03:09:35 AM
can I spread these images like if they were genuine?  Wink


You can try Wink
934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pet Supply store anyone? on: March 31, 2011, 03:08:33 AM
Been toying with the idea of starting an online only pet supply store and am wondering what the interest level would be among bitcoin users?  I would obviously try and keep prices competitive and support bitcoin as a method of payment. . . but other than that basic idea, I am still deciding if it is something that will work or not.

The interest level amongst bitcoin users would probably be that of/similar to any other user. We have pets too Smiley
935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / A possible hurdle for bitcoin banks..? on: March 31, 2011, 03:07:03 AM
As it stands - with my visa credit card and/or bank checking account... if a hacker/virus happens to "steal my identity" and then make fraudulent charges towards my account... the bank will pay me back.

Either they will stop the transaction before it completes (and give me a call to confirm it usually when I am in another country...) - or they will swallow the loss if they cannot recover the funds and re-imburse me all of the money that was "lost/stolen".

They can do this because they charge me (and everybody else in Canada) ~$10/month for my checking account. That an gouge us on a million other different obscure fees. Also they save a bunch of money by not having to pay bank tellers to deal with transactions... so they can afford to re-imburse any stolen funds.

If a "bitcoin bank" in the sense that most of us are thinking were to seriously take hold, they would have to charge a similarly high/ridiculous fee as a form of insurance against all of us joe-shmoe idiots allowing a virus or hacker to access our computers/sniff our wifi/etc...

Just sayin...
936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What is the single largest transaction of bitcoins on the block chain to date? on: March 31, 2011, 02:57:39 AM
What is the single largest transaction of bitcoins on the block chain to date?

I read in an old thread it was ~35k bitcoins or something about a year ago.

Anybody?
937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is calling it a "wallet" the wrong thing? on: March 30, 2011, 12:36:56 AM
I like keychain too, but what about chainkey? Isn't that exactly what it is? A block chain key?

Keys, plural. There is more than one in there, hence key-chain ... how about 'keys file' or too obvious?

Sure there might be numerous keys in there in the literal/digital sense. But your wallet.dat file is currently the "chain's key" in a sense.

Hence chainkey.
938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How long until governments outlaw bitcoin usage? on: March 30, 2011, 12:35:22 AM
It should only be a matter of months if the press gets hold of the fact that the entire bitcoin community supporting ponzi schemes. We would be way too easy a target.
939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should All Promotions Of Bitcoin "Ponzi" Schemes Be Banned? on: March 30, 2011, 12:34:12 AM
Ponzi schemes are fun, providing nobody is lying to you about what it is.

It's not worse than lottery or gambling, anyway.


Try explaining that to the general public.

Doesn't matter what it is trying to change the general public's opinion is going to be tough.
If they get to understand bitcoin then I don't see them having a problem with this specific ponzi.
Now if there is a negative campaign against bitcoin / becomes illegal trying to change the general publics opinion will be a nightmare.

How the hell do you think anybody is going to come to understand bitcoin while it is still in it's infancy like it is now?

Nobody is just downloading the client, depositing money through an exchange, and making purchases with bitcoin... not yet at least.

So they come here, see the entire community almost is pushing a ponzi scheme, and never come back.

That is how the general population works. Like robots.
940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should All Promotions Of Bitcoin "Ponzi" Schemes Be Banned? on: March 30, 2011, 12:31:18 AM
I feel like one of the first divisions of the Bitcoin community will be along the lines of late-adopters/mainstream-followers and early-adopters/fringe. Perhaps We Use Coins ought to start a forum for all the late-adopters and other folk who might get offended. Or perhaps the official forums should be the ones with the kid gloves and the ponzi action should be moved elsewhere. However you slice it, if we're going to be courting the general public we're going to have to eventually provide a good-sized range of discussion platforms to cater to all the differing viewpoints that will be springing up. Some people will be offended to no end if we allow NSFW or even gray/black-market posts to be mixed in with the rest. Others will be offended if we separate them. Still others will be offended if we even allow them to exist on the forums, even if they're off in a section of their own.

I guess the question is this: to what audience should the official forums play?

Edit:
This is not specific to ponzi schemes. It ultimately boils down to "How much should society attempt to protect people from themselves?".
Or, perhaps more pragmatically, how much should we cater to those who are used to being protected from themselves? We're hardly big enough yet to be setting the paradigms of society.

I honestly don't see why so many people have a problem with putting NSFW / Blackmarket etc etc in their own forums.
I think it solves both.

Basically because when the administrators of a website begin openly allowing blackmarket/illegal goods to be sold... Eventually the forum gets shut down.

Trust me on this one, I am an internet marketer at heart. And bitcoin ponzi schemes are going to look bad fucking horrible for our business image. Forget whether it's "just a fun, stupid, inside joke"...

I am really quite disappointed in so many people voting that "no, we should not ban ponzi scheme promotions"... you greedy fucking bastards!
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