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9281  Other / Meta / Re: Yobit spam on the forum on: September 28, 2019, 03:25:10 PM
What is the best way to report a spammer/cheater?

This account(Orrechorre) is red tagged for "sold/hacked account", and is an "user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity." according to his profile.

He's shitposting without even reading the posts he's replying to.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=124209
9282  Local / Wiki, documentation et traduction / Re: Guide débutant d'utilisation des bitcoins sur le réseau Bitcoin. on: September 28, 2019, 03:02:57 PM
Un autre moyen bien plus simple est d'acheter un téléphone mobile juste pour vos bitcoins, ils sont aujourd'hui à 50 euros (tactile, reliable à internet).
Il faut mettre un mot de passe sur ce téléphone (et pas un code) et ne le donner à personne puis ne rien installer d'autre que les logiciels pour le Bitcoin contenant vos bitcoins. Tongue
Je réponds à ça.
Il n'y a pas besoin d'acheter un nouveau téléphone, ni même d'en reseter un ancien.
Il suffit simplement d'utiliser un ancien telephone sans carte SIM opérationnelle et sans mot de passe wifi enregistré. Le mieux étant de le basculer en mode avion pour être tranquille.
Ca fait un cold storage pas cher, qui prend pas de place.
9283  Local / Wiki, documentation et traduction / Re: Guide débutant d'utilisation des bitcoins sur le réseau Bitcoin. on: September 28, 2019, 01:07:27 PM
Ce guide est magnifique et n'a juste besoin que d'une mise a jour rapide. Peut etre aussi amelioré en ajoutant les liens de reference necessaires. Je peux le reformer si OP est indisponible. J'aurai aussi aimer savoir si autres membres ont deja essayé de creer des guides similaire afin d'expliquer le fonctionnement du reseau bitcoin pour les debutants.
Je n'ai pas trouvé d'autre sujets similaires dans la section francophone et je pense que cette sujet doit etre epingler en top de la sous-section "Débutants"  .
N'hesitez pas de rapporter cette commentaire si vous pensez débile 🙂
Tu peux nous expliquer oú ce "guide" explique quoique ce soit sur l'utilisation de bitcoin et son fonctionnement?  Huh C'est juste une tribune. Le mec qui tombe là dessus depuis google il doit halluciner. Si sa question c'est faut-il que je donne ma seed pour recevoir des bitcoins comme on l'a vu récemment, il est bien avancé...
9284  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can I generate a brain wallet offline? on: September 28, 2019, 12:32:22 PM
Why bip39 mnemonic codes have been created?
A mnemonic phrase has been specifically designed to have a massive amount of entropy. Although it could be memorized (although not having a physical back up is a very bad idea), it is not the same as a brain wallet by any means.
If Bip39 evokes brain wallets there is a reason, it's because at the end, it answers the same issue : humans are not computers, they don't communicate in bits or hexadecimal strings, they use words.  
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In worst case, you can use the blockstream satellites to get the blockchain and send signed raw transactions to people having internet in order to broadcast them.
If they have a device capable of broadcasting to blockstream satellites, then they definitely have a device capable of running an Electrum wallet (for example). Provided it is already synced, a wallet does not require an internet connection to sign a transaction.
No in fact, it's not a bidirectional service, it's only a downlink communication, you can only download the blockchain but it's free.
So you have to send your transactions in another way to broadcast them.
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So you are implying some people are monitoring billions of billions of addresses?
Not billion, but hundreds of thousands, yes. You can see the proof on the second link in my previous post. All of those address have been cleared out within seconds of being used.
Yes I saw your link, the last address is "only" the number 18 982, the Oxford english dictionary contains 200,000 words, so the number of the most common single words in english is certainly above that.
9285  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum to Electrum - transaction lost! on: September 28, 2019, 11:20:49 AM
try changing electrum server in target wallet (tail).
I'm very skeptical about that, it's a matter of seed and keys, not a matter of blockchain and transactions. He wasn't even connected when he generated his seed and his keys.
9286  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can I generate a brain wallet offline? on: September 28, 2019, 10:58:30 AM
It seems that because brainwallets aren't in common use, we don't see all the "my brainwallet got 'hacked'!!?!" stories/posts that popped up in the "Good ol'day"™ when they were still popular and the less than morale types were busy running various "dictionary" attacks using all sorts of datasets (poems, lyrics, basic words, dates, names etc)... As such, history threatens to repeat as newcomers don't seem to realise the dangers of using them. Undecided
You can use salts to avoid that.
Moreover brainwallets are not designed for big transactions, neither to hold funds during several weeks as anyone understands, it's just some kind of vehicle.

I concur. I can't really think of any situation where a brainwallet would be preferable to a properly (randomly) generated wallet/private key...
Why bip39 mnemonic codes have been created? It's because hex and base58 strings are not convenient for humans. You can't deny that. You can't surely remember a new btc address, you can't easily spell it by phone, when you write it down you can make mistakes since it's 0 error-tolerant, etc.

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Motivation
A mnemonic code or sentence is superior for human interaction compared to the handling of raw binary or hexadecimal representations of a wallet seed. The sentence could be written on paper or spoken over the telephone.

This guide is meant to be a way to transport computer-generated randomness with a human readable transcription.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki



Moreover in third world countries not everyone owns a smartphone, and in many places of the world there is no 3G/4G network available. These people shouldn't be able to use bitcoin?
How are they going to use bitcoin with access to the internet?
Except maybe on some small islands, I think nowadays you can find "wired" internet in every country.  
In worst case, you can use the blockstream satellites to get the blockchain and send signed raw transactions to people having internet in order to broadcast them.

As such, history threatens to repeat as newcomers don't seem to realise the dangers of using them. Undecided
Whenever I see someone considering using a brain wallet, I usually direct them to the following places:

Collection of 18.509 found and used Brainwallets
https://eli5.eu/brainwallet/

Ask them to have a quick read of that thread and click on some of the transactions linked, or pick a few random addresses from the second site and again look at the transactions, paying particular attention to the times of the deposit and withdrawal transactions, and see that the withdrawal (stealing) transaction is generated and broadcast usually within a second of their deposit transaction.
So you are implying some people are monitoring billions of billions of addresses?
As I said above you can use a salt to avoid that.
9287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POC] Ethical Proof of Work on: September 28, 2019, 09:35:58 AM
situation not solved.
you threw in lots of techno babble. but in short. if 1 GPU/cpu/system can create a possible block solution, even if the problem changes/randomly picked. someone will just buy 100,000 gpu's and have each system broadcast through different ip addresses(proxies) to appear as individuals. that way he has 100,000 more chances than some hobbyist with 1 pc

one thing to remember is in digital tech, anything can be replicated/multiplied/cloned.
the reason people havnt bothered(emphasis) to make an asic that emulates an individual algos method of problem solving an alt. is because the alt is not popular, dominant, bas enough value to even bother trying. its not because its technically impossible. its just not worth their time developing because the altcoins real world usage just isnt really existant

its like lotteries planned that only 1 person gets rich each week. even if the decided a system where face recognition, payment method and only allowing 1 ticket person was implemented. then what is known as syndicating would occur. where a group of people have an individual ticket each but if on of them won, they would share the award

in short you will never find a way that a whole population/community has equal oppertunity. there is always a way to game the system.
I don't think it's the goal here, as I understand the goal is to use all this computing power to solve useful things ("protein folding for the research of new drugs / chemical compounds, circuit minimization for hardware optimization") belonging to NP hard 3-SAT problems and to stop "wasting" this computing power and electricity to just try to find "useless" hashes.
9288  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this why Bitcoin is crashing? on: September 28, 2019, 08:09:30 AM
@cryptomarketyourself You don't need to post several posts in a row to say that, it's forbidden, one post is enough. If you want to save us some bucks as you say, you should copy and paste the full article here...
9289  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Dropping - Are You Scared? on: September 28, 2019, 07:55:05 AM
So you didn't hear about the Lightning Network hack and you didn't hear about the FUD of the Google exploit?  Huh
Have you heard about the low volume on Bakkt at least?  Cheesy

it's always adorable when people try to explain price moves with news. the "lightning network hack" (if you could call it that) happened a month ago and the google news came out 3 days before the crash. obviously no one cared about either story.

you really think the market crashed because bakkt didn't have high enough volume? Grin

you realize that rallies and crashes occur with or without news stories, right? the most important factors are price and commitment of traders. traders were heavily long heading into the dump. so when price dropped a little bit, it triggered stops, causing new lows and triggering more stops and margin liquidations, inducing panic selling as price quickly dropped 15% in a matter of minutes. that's what price does---it creates feedback loops. lower prices beget lower prices as traders and investors are squeezed into cutting their losses. news pales in comparison to these market pressures.
And what triggered this feedback loop according to you? This is not a spontaneous phenomenon, it doesn't come from nowhere, there is an origin, you can't deny that.

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you really think the market crashed because bakkt didn't have high enough volume? Grin
In one word : yes
9290  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum to Electrum - transaction lost! on: September 28, 2019, 12:13:23 AM
2.  Where did you download electrum from? And how did you do it? Did you verify the pgp signature ?    -  
     1) On Tails it's already preinstalled, but old version, so you have to update manually. To do that - I downloaded the ''Appimage" for Linux on electrum.org. Where as well I found the explanation why my wallet didn't work - it was old!  
     And that's where it started instead of just updating it, the guide lines on Tails website say - to delete the wallet; to delete the wallet folder in the wallet; to do this, to do that.... All bullsh!t. In realty just to update the f*cking wallet!
Old version ok, but which one? Do you know the number of this version? Is it a version below 2.0?
BTW do you have the master public key of your "former" tails wallet ?
Another thing, did you try to come back to the older version and to import your seed? (you don't need to access the network for that) You still don't find your address there?
9291  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Dropping - Are You Scared? on: September 27, 2019, 10:07:47 PM
Unfortunately, there are some reasons to be scared : the Lightning Network hack, the failure of Bakkt launch and the Google quantum computing exploit.

How realistic is the Google quantum computing exploit though?

they created a very specific problem that was intentionally difficult to solve with traditional computers, then solved it with a quantum computer. sort of like chopping off your opponent's leg before a footrace.

this is very far removed from solving real problems like those that could break modern encryption.

i'm also curious about this "lightning network hack". all i can find is this from a month ago: https://www.theblockcrypto.com/linked/38068/bitcoins-lightning-network-found-to-have-security-vulnerabilities

It doesn't matter how realistic is the quantum computing exploit, it matters how people think it is...  Undecided Most of people investing in Bitcoin are not computer scientists neither even tech savvy. So they don't care how feasible it is

i didn't see much FUD about it. most of the articles state pretty clearly that it's not a risk to bitcoin.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/googles-quantum-computer-breakthrough-not-a-risk-to-bitcoin-says-dev
https://www.ccn.com/google-quantum-bitcoin/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-quantum-computer-means-bitcoin-165320736.html
So you didn't hear about the Lightning Network hack and you didn't hear about the FUD of the Google exploit?  Huh
Have you heard about the low volume on Bakkt at least?  Cheesy
9292  Local / Débutants / Re: Question de débutant !! Je commence et ne comprend pas encore tout le process on: September 27, 2019, 09:48:33 PM
Avant d'investir 1 seul centime dans la crypto' je te conseille promptement de te former/lire avant tout, car quand je vois cette question :

Et ensuite pour la transférer sur ma Ledger, il faut donc que je rentre mes 24 mots qui sont la clé de la sécurité de mes crypto ? Mais si je rentre ces mots sur kraken, ils vont être enregistré et plus confidentielle non ?

Tu ne me sembles pas du tout au point, ce n'est pas pour être méchant, mais c'est simplement risqué d'acheter des crypto' quand nous ne maîtrisons pas les bases.
Moi je pense qu'on peut débuter sans trop s'y connaître à condition de n'utiliser que les exchanges, après on peut partir sur des software wallets et enfin sur des hardware wallets/cold storage.
Là le mec il va se faire noyer par les explications, c'est vraiment dommage, il faut que ça soit simple la crypto pour être adoptée par la masse. On devrait pas avoir besoin d'apprendre la mécanique pour conduire l'engin.
9293  Local / Débutants / Re: Question de débutant !! Je commence et ne comprend pas encore tout le process on: September 27, 2019, 09:33:12 PM
Merci pour vos réponse.

Effectivement, je n'investi que dans ce que je crois, et c'est pour cela que pour moi le bitcoin, même si nous pouvons le considerer comme "primaire" car il est l'élément déclencheur et le plus connu de la crypto, il permet au pays/système de se démocratiser et de s'ouvrir vers la crypto, en adoptant le bitcoin dans un premier temps. D'ou la quasi impossibilité, de mon point de vue, qu'il s'écroule defintivement. Je pense même au contraire qu'il risqué de faire de nouveaux record sur les prochaines années... Le temps que les autres crypto prometteuse (XRP à mes yeux) fassent leur future "boom".

Je suis également assez curieux et optimiste par rapport au GRAM, mais c'est un autre débat Wink


Sinon, si je récapitule la réponse à ma première question :

J'achète des cryptos sur KRAKEN, si je ne les transfert/sécurise pas, il reste dans mon "porte monnaie" kraken ? Un peu à la manière de paypal, il reste dans le porte monnaie du "site" en question ?

Et ensuite pour la transférer sur ma Ledger, il faut donc que je rentre mes 24 mots qui sont la clé de la sécurité de mes crypto ? Mais si je rentre ces mots sur kraken, ils vont être enregistré et plus confidentielle non ?
Je ne suis pas sur de saisir la manipulation à faire en faite… ma clé LEDGER contient une adresse personnel (un peu comme les addresses sur le net que j'ai pu voir, qui contiennent un nombres de lettres+nombres+caractère spéciaux ?
Ce que je ne comprend pas, c'est comment cette fameuse adresse unique de ma clé LEDGER est reconnu dans le "système" de la crypto ? Qu'est ce qui officialise mon adresse et qui m'assure qu'elle reste enregistré à vie avec mes fonds dessus ?
Ce qu'il faut que tu donnes à Kraken c'est une de ces adresses. Sans la clef privée, Kraken, ni personne ne peut l'utiliser et voler les fonds qui y ont été transférés.
Dis-nous par quoi commence l'adresse que tu comptes donner à Kraken pour le withdrawal car tu me fais un peu peur.
Je pense que c'est un peu tôt pour toi d'utiliser un ledger en fait...
9294  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Dropping - Are You Scared? on: September 27, 2019, 09:01:24 PM
Unfortunately, there are some reasons to be scared : the Lightning Network hack, the failure of Bakkt launch and the Google quantum computing exploit.

How realistic is the Google quantum computing exploit though?


Has anyone run a study of how effective this indicator is? I'm a little skeptical about some of their data sources like Google Trends, Bitcoin Dominance, and the way they analyze Twitter.

I check it everyday, and it seems to be very reflective of the sentiment of people.

It only updates once a day though, and it is based on movements in the price, so you can't really use it as an indicator for trading.
It doesn't matter how realistic is the quantum computing exploit, it matters how people think it is...  Undecided Most of people investing in Bitcoin are not computer scientists neither even tech savvy. So they don't care how feasible it is
9295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Adoption! Finally? on: September 27, 2019, 08:44:31 PM
You forgot the korean messaging giant Kakaotalk and its cryptocurrency KLAY, the other messaging service Keybase with XLM and Samsung with its half-hard wallets on its new phones.

This is not Bitcoin adoption but altcoin adoption, It is useless if they only use their own coin within their apps.

Why not have each company issue their own altcoin then? Exchanging will be lots of fun!
It's useless for who or what? I don't understand what you mean.
The announcement of Libra made the price of Bitcoin pump, because it was considered as a big news for cryptocurrencies adoption in general.
Moreover, OP talked about TON and telegram, so he seems to think in the same way.
9296  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this why Bitcoin is crashing? on: September 27, 2019, 08:32:08 PM
Well, maybe crashing isn't the right word - but it's definitely dropping in price. Here's a cool overview of what's happening:

https://cryptotradernews.com/crypto-trader-pro/what-triggered-the-mighty-bitcoin-fall/

My key takeaways:

  • September is typically a bad month
  • Baakkt is not doing very well
  • It’s worth noting the cryptocurrency is still up about 127% on a year-to-date basis


Thoughts?
Why did you put this link? We can't access your article, registration is needed...  Undecided
Well I think the hack of the Lightning Network, the Google quantum computing exploit and the very low volume on Bakkt at its launch are the main culprits of the crash... The big dip in the hashrate wasn't a good news too... 
9297  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Adoption! Finally? on: September 27, 2019, 08:19:31 PM
We have lately been seeing a lot of big names dipping their fingers into the sweet profitable sauce through Bitcoin's variations and tasting it nicely these days. Names coming out are some of the highly used apps in terms of daily consumption of data through their customers over these apps:

- Japan's Messaging giant Line launches an in-built crypto exchange for their 80M userbase.

https://www.coindesk.com/line-officially-launches-crypto-exchange-for-80-million-users-in-japan

- Telegram raised $1.7 billion for its TON token development and released code recently as well as Coinbase is considering on adding it to their exchange.

https://www.coindesk.com/telegram-finally-releases-code-for-its-1-7-billion-ton-blockchain

- Japan's Retail Giant, also known as the "Amazon of Japan", Rakuten has officially launched a crypto exchange where they have now allowed spot trading services to their 850M customers.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/japans-retail-giant-rakuten-officially-launches-crypto-exchange/

And many more...

Source:
https://news.bitcoin.com/apps-gone-crypto-popular-apps-are-adding-crypto-capabilities/

Still need anything more to believe that Bitcoin is actually being adopted worldwide and everyone has now started taking advantage of this old-yet-highly addictive global cryptocurrency (asset) already?

Finally, something great is gonna come to us, Bitcoiners.
You forgot the korean messaging giant Kakaotalk and its cryptocurrency KLAY, the other messaging service Keybase with XLM and Samsung with its half-hard wallets on its new phones.
9298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is $25 XLM worth your privacy (identify). on: September 27, 2019, 08:02:39 PM
I do not agree to send your ID for $25, why this company takes our IDs for just $25.
I believe there is something behind this, and i never send my IDs even for $250.
They have new airdrop for Github user, with minimum 20$ worth XLM per participant, and don't require your information. All you had to do is just connect your github account with Keybase software. You can try it.
No they've stopped this airdrop because github and hackernews had been hacked to steal old accounts in order to register to the airdrop...
And be careful, Keybase had been hacked too according to this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186085
9299  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Adoption massive de la crypto en France on: September 27, 2019, 07:15:01 PM
Les gens ont des CB avec paiement différé ou cashback,

Tu connais beaucoup de services de cashback digne de ce nom en France ?!

Genre un truc qui se rapproche de au moins 1% de cashback ?
Parce que ce n'est pas la première fois que tu en parles, et à part AMEX je ne vois pas trop.
Je ne pense pas qu'il y ait beaucoup de banques qui offrent de tels cashbacks en effet, moi j'ai 0,1% chez N26 mais peu importe le montant c'est le principe : le public va forcément arbitrer vers ce qui est le plus avantageux financièrement pour lui. Quelqu'un qui possède une carte à paiement différé pourquoi voudrait-il utiliser une solution qui lui enlève cette commodité et lui fait payer des frais en sus?
9300  Local / Débutants / Re: BTC perdu, que deviennent-ils ? on: September 27, 2019, 06:30:58 PM
Est-ce que le notaire accepte facilement de remettre un mot de passe sans savoir ce qui se cache derrière?

Le notaire il fait ce que tu lui dit.
Si tu laisses un courrier à tes héritiers il n'a pas le droit de l'ouvrir. Le secret de la correspondance tout ça.
C'est different de laisser un mot de passe sans dire à quoi il correspond et un courrier.
Par ailleurs le courrier ne faut-il pas qu'il soit ouvert et lu devant les hériters et notaire lors du reglement de la succession?
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