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9361  Economy / Gambling / Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds on: November 10, 2017, 08:44:22 AM
They didn't process my withdrawall for over 5 MONTHS! now... STAY AWAY,DO NOT PLAY HERE!!! I know that I am not the only one! RED FLAG GET YOUR FUNDS AWAY FROM HERE!

I am surprised this isn't solved yet.

I remember you bring this up last September or so.

Basically from what I recall you sent them ID and they assumed it was fake, and they asked you to go on a webcam and show your face to  your ID, you said you didn't have a webcam and they refused to let you withdraw money.

My guess is since its almost $7200 a coin, just buy a webcam and get your identity verified.
9362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BTC Gold MainNet Launch on: November 10, 2017, 03:05:16 AM
You do realize that this coin will be very unprofitable to mine from the start.

Max miner revenue per 24 hours is = 144 blocks * 12.5 block reward * $150 coin = $270,000 a day

Ethereum miner revenuer per 24 hours is like $6 million.





how did you come up with t his ?

I think the money to be made here is nicehash for all the greedy hash buyers lol

If I may?

1 blk every 10 mins (on average) = 6 blks/hr = 144 blocks/day

144 * 12.5 coins/blk * (your favorite BTG coin price) = $/day


Major coin smackdown.

Only way it will be profitable will be for the instaminers who are probably the developers.
9363  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: November 10, 2017, 03:01:58 AM
I did not like it, it pays so much little, i think 99.99 % the faucet sites pay a misery and you can only withdrawal after a eternity. For a simple user like me wich would like to have some satoshi it looks impossible to achieve.

You can't become rich or earn a decent amount from any faucet sites. This faucet money basically is for trying their games and what you can do is use that small amount and buy lotteries and if you're lucky then you can win some decent amount but no guaranty that you will win a lottery. Slowly rank up your member level and join any signature campaign to earn some decent money.

The best bitcoin faucet is this one

http://web.archive.org/web/20100703032414/http://freebitcoins.appspot.com/

They are offering 5 bitcoins per visitor. You want more than 5 bitcoins? Just unplug your router, get a new IP and apply again.

Only problem is you need a time machine and go back to July 3rd 2010. Back then bitcoin was worthless. It wasn't even worth solving the captcha to get the free 5 BTC.
9364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Bitcore- BTX - SEGWIT - BLOOM - ONLINE - new virtual fork 1:0.5 of Bitcoin on: November 10, 2017, 01:11:37 AM
Anyway to get this second airdrop in a similiar way like the first one? Where you just sign a message proving ownership of the BTC address?

EDIT: Seems this was asked many times.

So is there a deadline to claim this airdrop or is it like CLAM where its your forever?
9365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BTC Gold MainNet Launch on: November 09, 2017, 11:36:57 PM
You do realize that this coin will be very unprofitable to mine from the start.

Max miner revenue per 24 hours is = 144 blocks * 12.5 block reward * $150 coin = $270,000 a day

Ethereum miner revenuer per 24 hours is like $6 million.



9366  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: November 09, 2017, 11:32:31 PM
These days in my opinion if you really want "free" bitcoins in some way you will need to risk some money to get them.

There are these ICO signature campaigns and these mini faucets which are a waste of time.

My advice is to buy 1 BTC and just loan it for margin trading and you will get an average of 0.065% per day.

So for every 1 BTC you loaned out you will get 0.00065000 BTC after 1 month its 0.0195 BTC. So you earn $140/month for doing almost nothing.

This is way better than going to all those faucet farm websites which make you download viruses or playing with a 100 Sats faucet that you will never be able to withdraw.
9367  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinolize.com is upgraded to new version | Provably Fair | 0.7% House Edge on: November 09, 2017, 11:28:13 PM

Quote
Invest - We give you an opportunity to invest in our house bankroll and earn 50 percent of our site's profit as per your investment proportion. The minimum investment is 0.00100000 Bitcoins. The profit is calculated on an hourly basis. The minimum investment period is 7 days. You cannot divest your funds for the first 7 days after your investment. You can withdraw any time instantly after 7 days from the date and time of your recent investment. Your hourly profits are compounded (Your hourly profits automatically add to your current investment). So, you get a share of profit from the site's profit for your every previous profits earned, along with your actual investment. Since your profits are compounded, the chances for your returns on investment is higher.

All your investments are instantly added to our bankroll. The bankroll funds are kept securely in the cold storage. We are completely transparent in our calculations.


Where is the total amount invested currently listed and what is the cold storage address.

Can you please post a signed message proving the cold storage address belongs to you with a timestamped message?

9368  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 20 Billion Bets | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: November 09, 2017, 11:25:27 PM
Cool appreciate it. Another question is about the so called strategies I see on the primedice forum? I thought this was a simple dice game, how much strategy can actually be involved? I'm looking to make a few high stake gambles with the standard 49.5% odds. Wondering if I really need to look into "strategies" before getting started.

Here is the list of some strategies you can use with dicebot.
https://bot.seuntjie.com/Scripts.aspx
They can prove efficient in short term but in long term they all end in bust.

Appreciate the link. I guess my question is, if I only plan on making 2 or 3 bets, is there a point in using a bot or researching strategies? Basically I just want to roll the dice and see if I could double my coin. I lost $22,000 from trading bitcoin these past few days and want to see if I could recoup my losses. I have 3 bitcoin that I'm willing to bet and I basically am hoping to double my money. How do you recommend proceeding? Just throw it all in with one bet (50% odds)? Or setup several different bets?

Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, I sent a test amount to my primedice wallet (.049 BTC) with a fee of 20 sats/byte. Is it strange that I still haven't received it? I sent it 3 hours ago, transacation is in link below... I know fee was low but still seems like a long time to get 1 confirmation.

https://blockchain.info/tx/6255d7d0d5013a3594e757ccc8a81997a523446a94624dae69190ab078af43aa

You do realize that chances are you will most likely also lose those 3 bitcoins by gambling?

Sure you can double your wins and get 6 bitcoins in total but with gambling the house edge is always against you.

How did you lose your bitcoins? By buying alts? Shorting bitcoin?

I'm aware of the risk. When you say the house always has an edge, does that still apply even if I set 50% odds with a 1.98x payout? I lost money from shorting, the market has been extremely unpredictable and the cancellation of Segwit2x just made things worse.

Yes there is always a house edge against you.

If you take less than 10 bets or so, then it shouldn't be that much of an effect as when you take 100 bets or so.

But keep in mind that Bitcoin gambling is not a gauranteed way to make money.

Try maybe gambling on the faucet first and see how it works for you.

If the house always has an edge then how is this game "provably fair"? If it's actually fair, 50% odds should mean 50% odds...


The provably fair in my opinion is a bad term. It doesn't mean the odds are fair, what it means is that you can verify your bets afterwards and make sure you weren't cheated.

For example say you are given a hashed seed

5feceb66ffc86f38d952786c6d696c79c2dbc239dd4e91b46729d73a27fb57e9

The way provaby fair works your roll is usually calculated as "server seed+client seed+noone"

So you are given the hashed result, which means the server seed is "0", you don't normally know this.

The client seed you know yourself, lets say its "1", and the noonce starts at "0".

Hence the result will be =1,2,3,4,5,6 for every sequential roll.

Way you can verify is after you are done betting the hashed seed was initially "0", and you can go to a SHA256 site and make sure that "0" was the hashed seed they gave you.

Its actually a very clever way to prove bets.
9369  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 20 Billion Bets | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: November 09, 2017, 08:06:22 PM
Cool appreciate it. Another question is about the so called strategies I see on the primedice forum? I thought this was a simple dice game, how much strategy can actually be involved? I'm looking to make a few high stake gambles with the standard 49.5% odds. Wondering if I really need to look into "strategies" before getting started.

Here is the list of some strategies you can use with dicebot.
https://bot.seuntjie.com/Scripts.aspx
They can prove efficient in short term but in long term they all end in bust.

Appreciate the link. I guess my question is, if I only plan on making 2 or 3 bets, is there a point in using a bot or researching strategies? Basically I just want to roll the dice and see if I could double my coin. I lost $22,000 from trading bitcoin these past few days and want to see if I could recoup my losses. I have 3 bitcoin that I'm willing to bet and I basically am hoping to double my money. How do you recommend proceeding? Just throw it all in with one bet (50% odds)? Or setup several different bets?

Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, I sent a test amount to my primedice wallet (.049 BTC) with a fee of 20 sats/byte. Is it strange that I still haven't received it? I sent it 3 hours ago, transacation is in link below... I know fee was low but still seems like a long time to get 1 confirmation.

https://blockchain.info/tx/6255d7d0d5013a3594e757ccc8a81997a523446a94624dae69190ab078af43aa

You do realize that chances are you will most likely also lose those 3 bitcoins by gambling?

Sure you can double your wins and get 6 bitcoins in total but with gambling the house edge is always against you.

How did you lose your bitcoins? By buying alts? Shorting bitcoin?

I'm aware of the risk. When you say the house always has an edge, does that still apply even if I set 50% odds with a 1.98x payout? I lost money from shorting, the market has been extremely unpredictable and the cancellation of Segwit2x just made things worse.

Yes there is always a house edge against you.

If you take less than 10 bets or so, then it shouldn't be that much of an effect as when you take 100 bets or so.

But keep in mind that Bitcoin gambling is not a gauranteed way to make money.

Try maybe gambling on the faucet first and see how it works for you.
9370  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 LOTTERY 🎁18 BILLIONTH BETS PROMOTION🎁 on: November 09, 2017, 08:04:59 PM
I'm not going to be surprised if Baryom or the staff of Bitsler will post another promo for 19 Billionth bets. With Bitcoin price soaring, increase of interest with Bitcoin and hitting all time high, traffic in sites like Bitsler increases too. It's like Bitsler is getting 1 Billion bets per month. That's 33 million bets per day  Shocked

Yes, 1 billion bets come so fast at bitsler. This is because Bitsler has become the most popular and trusted gambling site. Baryom and his team treat users very well.

Basically its due to the organic bitcoin adoption.

Every 2-3 days there are like 100K new users on coinbase, imagine how many new users are there worldwide?

In turn all these bitcoin gambling sites are seeing huge increases in traffic and huge revenue.
9371  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTCHEAT.COM IS ONLY A HOAX? on: November 09, 2017, 06:57:35 PM
Already lost a valuable week of time to try this piece of junk site. I'm requesting everyone to stay away from this site. It's already scam when it's launched..

If you would of came in this thread and did some research we could of saved you the time for you to realize that the entire website is nothing but a big joke.

Honestly if you wanted free BTC there were faucets years ago that gave away 1 BTC per day or so. These days since BTC is very expensive none exist, only scam sites like this one.

Then why someone got paid? search on the youtube you will see proof
Those proofs are fake! btw i searched it on youtube, guess which video was on top? this one(https://youtube.com/watch?v=NHLKfpdH0dk), you/everyone should watch it! stop wasting your time!

I agree it is easy to buy reviews and even creae an account claiming that they get paid (this way it is free).  There are lots of sites like that lurking around, even lots of my friend on FB are signing on this kind of stuff, though i told them that they are not paying, they never listen.  O well greed often times make people blind.

Yes I agree with this post.

There are basically WAY too many people who have no clue on how to use a computer even, that they read facebook posts from their friends about this stuff and they think that since its written by their friend it must be true.

And then they get involved and end up losing money. And they go back on facebook and complain to the guy and it starts huge fights because everybody is fighting and everybody is losing money.
9372  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 LOTTERY 🎁18 BILLIONTH BETS PROMOTION🎁 on: November 09, 2017, 06:55:19 PM
but mostly people do not know when to stop and lead them into losing too much which they can't afford.
How do you know when to stop? After your first win? After your nth win? There's no way to tell. As soon as you wager the first bet, you're already losing.

You can't know when you want to stop but you can prevent it by setting some limit on your max loss and max win to make sure that you really get out from this zone. I tried it before by setting limit you might have higher chance to get profit instead of do nothing

I can say yhst martingale is working pretty good on me. Everything seems to be perfect but when greediness is coming then I will start losing everything.
Greed ≠ Loss. It's all variance. Doesn't matter whether you're greedy or not: it doesn't affect the statistical outcome of -0.01 ev.

Mostly yes in my way, greed in the end bring more hype and emotion which is always consume more of your bankroll and if you can't control yourselves it will bring huge loss because we can't predict what is the outcome so by controlling our greediness we might have chance to stop our big loss sometime

Its basically a cycle.

If you read the other threads, people lost lots of money buying alts a few months ago. And now they want to get their bitcoin back or USD back by gambling.

Its no different from people who invested in stocks. They have lost money on stocks, and then go trade stock options or futures or forex and they try to break-even but it never happens.

Their fear and greed is what leads to their failure and loss of all money.
9373  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST play/invest, level up, win and have fun! on: November 09, 2017, 06:50:27 PM
I've added a command to AM to report Bitcoin Core's estimated fee on transactions. Use it like !fee [numblocks]

For example, to see what fee you should use for confirmation within the hour:
Code:
!fee 6
Estimated fee to be confirmed in 6 blocks is 281 sat/byte

Hi,

well, it's probably not the place to discuss fee evaluation methods, but actually simpler methods work much better for reliable fee estimation. Check this out, this is IMHO how the fees should be calculated in the reference wallet: https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx

Cheers,
Ethan

Basically that website AND https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#8h

Provide the best method of fees if you want it confirmed within the hour.

The bitcoin fee estimator website by 21fees is always off by a few hundred satoshis at least.

In my opinion the site should pay the lowest fee as possible with RBF, and if it doesn't confirm within 2 hours they should replace that transaction with a higher fee.
9374  Economy / Gambling / Re: Action-gamble.com - Multiplayer rock paper scissors on: November 09, 2017, 06:45:00 PM
Actually are there any active giveways on action-gamble.com ? I see people keep posting their usernames, but i think giveaway has already ended... did i miss something?

If you read back a few posts the admin says that he is currently working on another project and doesn't have time for development of the site or any marketing/giveaways.

He is developing some app, maybe when he is finished he will try and promote the site more and more.

Its a great site in my opinion, no idea why its not more popular than regular dice sites.
9375  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is the best bitcoin casino? on: November 09, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
Seems like every week, there is a new bitcoin casino, but how many are trusted and legit? so i guess you have to do research before you play, try to Google their online review, and reputation and how long they have been operating.

That is true indeed, there are a lot of new casinos that pop out here and there, but you can tell the scams anyway, if the casino is poorly made, there is a high chance it is a scam since why would they put a lot of effort to make a nice one right? Anyway, that's not always the case. It is up to the gambler's due diligence whenever he is going to try out a new gambling site. So keep safe everybody,

The best way to tell if a new casino is a scam is by asking for proof of funds.

All the established casinos will have at least >25 BTC in capital to be able to cover losses during a poor week or a poor month.

Another way to tell is the design. Lately people have bought some script so each site that comes online is exactly the same. Basically a complete clone.
9376  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE - 🎲🎲🎲 ICO ANNOUNCE 15 AUG 2017! JOIN THE TRANSFORMATION! 🎰🎰🎰 on: November 09, 2017, 06:37:01 PM
It seems that news about hard forks had a positive impact on the cryptocurrency casinos!

How so?

It doesn't seem that casinos would really be affected. Only if they didn't support the fork.

I think the biggest places affected were exchanges and alt coins.

Its basically what happened on Aug 1st, right after the fork, all the alts were regaining losses because they were buying them back since they already had their Bitcoin Cash. The exact same thing happened yesterday. Look at the alts compared to bitcoin right now.
9377  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 20 Billion Bets | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: November 09, 2017, 06:26:53 PM
Cool appreciate it. Another question is about the so called strategies I see on the primedice forum? I thought this was a simple dice game, how much strategy can actually be involved? I'm looking to make a few high stake gambles with the standard 49.5% odds. Wondering if I really need to look into "strategies" before getting started.

Here is the list of some strategies you can use with dicebot.
https://bot.seuntjie.com/Scripts.aspx
They can prove efficient in short term but in long term they all end in bust.

Appreciate the link. I guess my question is, if I only plan on making 2 or 3 bets, is there a point in using a bot or researching strategies? Basically I just want to roll the dice and see if I could double my coin. I lost $22,000 from trading bitcoin these past few days and want to see if I could recoup my losses. I have 3 bitcoin that I'm willing to bet and I basically am hoping to double my money. How do you recommend proceeding? Just throw it all in with one bet (50% odds)? Or setup several different bets?

Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, I sent a test amount to my primedice wallet (.049 BTC) with a fee of 20 sats/byte. Is it strange that I still haven't received it? I sent it 3 hours ago, transacation is in link below... I know fee was low but still seems like a long time to get 1 confirmation.

https://blockchain.info/tx/6255d7d0d5013a3594e757ccc8a81997a523446a94624dae69190ab078af43aa

You do realize that chances are you will most likely also lose those 3 bitcoins by gambling?

Sure you can double your wins and get 6 bitcoins in total but with gambling the house edge is always against you.

How did you lose your bitcoins? By buying alts? Shorting bitcoin?
9378  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing | 20 Billion Bets | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: November 08, 2017, 10:10:05 AM
Hello!
How much confirmation needed to get my funds on the page? And if i deposit for example 0.25 BTC , and only play 10-20 games with good profits, can i withdraw my funds after 10-20 game?

I think one confirmation needed.

If I'm not wrong for withdrawals no restrictions as long as your balance is above minimum withdrawal limit. Even after the first roll if you make a good profit you can straight away go ahead to withdraw your funds they will allow you take your money back. But you just need to pay the transaction fee for withdrawals.

You got it wrong, there should be no unconfirmed deposit before you are able to withdraw. This is to avoid double spenders imho, it will too risky if a site lets you to withdraw directly when there is unconfirmed deposit on player's account. I'm sure no sites allows withdrawal as what you say.

The way sites get scammed is when the casino offers "instant deposits" and they basically gamble their deposit almost instantely and if they win, they do nothing. If they lose, then they try and double spend their deposit and they make a brand new account and get a new IP address and try again.

Its actually becoming a huge problem and I am pretty sure if it continues then casinos will just only allow bets after a certain number of confirmations is done.
9379  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST play/invest, HALLOWEEN NUMBER HUNT with a BONUS on: November 08, 2017, 10:05:23 AM
I know you said you wouldn't halt withdraws before, but if you plan to distribute 2x, how will you be able to stop people from replaying withdraws right after the fork and taking 2x coins?

I am pretty sure what they will end up doing is exactly what every other service out there will do.

They will basically split the coins themselves first to prevent that from happening.

Basically a few hours after the fork, they will send all their cold/hot storage funds into another wallet that they control private keys to, and they will allow withdraws from that new wallet.

So what happens if someone withdraws in those few hours? They get BCH coins. Also, why do you say "into another wallet that they control the private keys to", as if these services are trusting some sort of API or something with their hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Hi,

honestly we don't have a specific plan how to handle 2x fork, but we are ready for any scenario. Basically here's what we'll be doing:

If Segwit2x does not implement replay protection:

1. Before the fork and some time after the fork all withdrawals and deposits will be suspended.
2. Depending on the situation this could take long and we'll have to wait to see which chain becomes the "real" Bitcoin.
3. If we success in splitting the coins (e.g. using timelock) we'll distribute "minority coin" to our users.

If Segwit2x  implements replay protection:

1. We do more or less what we did with Bitcoin Cash fork - we take snapshot of funds try to distribute them to our users.
2. Whatever will be called "Bitcoin" after the fork, we'll stick to it.


Anyway, the issue is that 2x for is not intendet to create another flavor of Bitcoin (another coin), but rather to replace Bitcoin itself. Right now we are still not sure how much hashpower it will get. Declarations indicate more than 80% hashpower now, so it's a lot. Can 2x fork become THE Bitcoin? Yes, it's possible.

We'll be following the situation closely and keep your funds safe.

Cheers,
Ethan

I agree with you. Its highly unlikely that both chains will exist.

Either one chain will have no hashrate or one chain will have absolutely no value.

With Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Gold, the bitcoin ecosystem doesn't need a 4th bitcoin fork.

I think this entire Segwit2x is a bit out of proportion and we are already seeing some pools opting out of signalling for NYA.
9380  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTCHEAT.COM IS ONLY A HOAX? on: November 08, 2017, 10:00:44 AM
Already lost a valuable week of time to try this piece of junk site. I'm requesting everyone to stay away from this site. It's already scam when it's launched..

If you would of came in this thread and did some research we could of saved you the time for you to realize that the entire website is nothing but a big joke.

Honestly if you wanted free BTC there were faucets years ago that gave away 1 BTC per day or so. These days since BTC is very expensive none exist, only scam sites like this one.
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