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9361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 12, 2017, 02:59:42 PM
As long as you do not get addicted, it is not dangerous. But when you start losing your assets, you will probably ruin your life.

I agree, as long as a player keeps control over their habits they wont go broke and wont get addicted. If its your hard earned money you will feel bad after you lose and then you will end up sulking over it. Then you will go to play again in hopes of winning back your losses. That is no always possible and dangerous as well. If you chase losses that is wrong since in EV- games it only leads to more losses.
9362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: June 12, 2017, 02:52:27 PM
According to my opinion gambling is a kind of entertainment because when we see the people whenever they are tired and feel bored so the go to casino and there they feel relax and by gambling they can entertain themselves and make them busy.

However it is also a dangerous mode of entertaining yourself if you are psychologically stimulated by the gambling motifs and get addicted to it. If a person is tried they may want to rest and sleep - or at least I do that. I dont think losing money at the moment of being tired is worth it.

Then again there is no harm if you are doing responsible gambling and you can control your emotions properly. But that rarely happens.
9363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 12, 2017, 02:48:28 PM
Because gambling is most fun activity to do when compared work, and it's humane. Only, gambling using money is potentially dangerous for a person's financial condition.

Can you explain how gambling is a "fun" activity? Apart from the thrill in playing and the excitement - there is nothing fun in losing a lot and becoming a beggar. Gambling is always associated with risk and loss. If a person is not willing to accept it then they may not play at all. Then it does not mean that the person has to get addicted to gambling because that is their own choice.
9364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 11, 2017, 09:41:20 AM
Everyone can stop playing when they want but some people just dont want to stop. There are dfference between those that dont want to stop and blame their greed because they lose. The majority are the one that actually blame greed when they lose, they know they can stop but they choose to not stop and rage when they lose
If only we can treat gambling as only a challenging game and didnt take it seriously, that would be great. They become addicted because they doesnt be contended on what they are earning. We should not be greedy on anything too much obsession on such thing is not good it only leads you to misfortune.

But then if a person takes gambling as a challenge - they will not stop until they secure their wins. Its like making that person an addict because no one knows what wins may happen in gambling and if that person will really win the stipulated amount that they thought they would. No one is contended with their wins - everyone wants more. Its important to stop soon and not think of ourselves as lucky people who can the beat the house, because that never happens.
9365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: June 11, 2017, 09:35:41 AM
Gambling is totally dependent on luck, if your luck doesn't support you then no skills or trick doesn't work anymore. So from my point of view, Bitcoin is nothing but a luck game, but actually it is entertaining game...
Yes gambling is totally depend on the lucky, there are no good ways to getting constant winnings in gambling,
it is just for entertainment so in my definition gambling is not good place to investing in it,
 except i make website of gambling games and it is not easy needs large of amount money and time to build it.
You are right, gambling is always a risky way to make a profit. You should be too lucky for doing that. Like you said it's not a good place to investing in it, because you can finish that with a big loss. So the main definition that gamble is always too risky.
If we love do it, then we should play just for fun no more.

Luck is the main factor that allows wins and losses in gambling to happen. Its a game of luck and if you are lucky you can win a lot or lose a lot. EV- games are dependent on nothing but luck - no strategy works there. But there are EV+ games where you can get a edge over the others and in PvP games as well. Gambling is risky - risk is always associated with anything in life but then one has to find ways to earn and live and gambling is the one where the risk is very high.
9366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 11, 2017, 09:33:02 AM
my opinion of gambling is not bad if you know your limits because of gambling with money or use bitcoin can put los level, and do gamble just for havin fun will not make you feel that you have lost Wink
yes it is not bad as long as you will be able to control youself from playing gambling, when you out of focus that will  be the wrong thing if they become greedy in their play, that will be a bad thing. theres no wrong with it just play the game and enjoy it, dont take it seriously.

I agree with your idea. If gambling is dealing a heavy blow on your life then dont play too much and waste money. Play within limits and you can have fun and not go broke at the same time. A casual betting on a game with your friends can be fun if done properly and without the idea of winning huge amounts. If you dont take it seriously you might just lose a lot without actually realizing it before its too late - so I am a bit skeptical about it.
9367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: June 11, 2017, 09:28:33 AM
I am lucky to not have an addictive personality so I do not have to come back if I don't want to. I just use bonuses that are free and deposit small amounts with other bonuses and I'm in the green so far. It's only because I play it safe and risk very small amounts. I have won more for free then I have paid.

Its good if one can control their emotions and not get addicted to it. I guess you are talking about playing from the faucet amounts to play with. Its a meager amount if you say so and that too its not worth trying as well since to get something useful from it you will have to waste a lot of time trying to multiply that amount. Its better if one spends that time to do something more fruitful.
9368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: June 10, 2017, 10:36:52 AM
Nowhere one can get such a big earning chance in a very short time period as gambling, so this makes every user to come back to gambling even when they loss big. Possibly at the end few will be successful and the rest ends gambling and goes in search of some alternative for avoiding addiction.

The number of people who get jackpots in gambling is very few and even then even lesser number of people manage to spend it wisely. The greed for even bigger wins is so big that they gamble that money away and end up losing it as well. Very few actually live the dream of becoming a millionaire. Grin

That is why casinos are running in a flourishing manner and people are going back to them everyday - with false hopes of making a big win everyday.
9369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 10, 2017, 10:33:57 AM
Overall, your opinion is almost the same as mine. Gambling from the start is a place to make money. And as I said, I do not blame those who gamble for fun, it is their right, I have no power whatsoever for that. One thing I do not like about them is they feel they are right, and think making money from gambling is the wrong way.

It is their right however it is our responsibility as well to give them atleast some insight that they are doing it wrong. It is a free speech and everyone could spit out their reasoning on this matter. I am on the same page as you, for me it is just another way of making money and I dont really have to enjoy playing it

Those who dont have any other method to make money will resort to per se illegal methods to win money aka gambling. But one cannot blame them for their decisions and make judgement on them. They have to survive like others and in this case they have to earn something. Then again gambling is illegal in many countries and thus should be done with caution or better get some other work to earn daily.
9370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: June 10, 2017, 10:29:38 AM
Gambling is an uncertained outcome with predefined fixed odds. In that sense many forms of sports bets isn't gambling if you know what you are doing but in reality the odds don't lie.

Uncertain outcome correct but the odds are against us in EV- games. In EV+ games your skills and knowledge can help you win many times, though luck is also important there as well. The fact with sports betting is that many games are rigged and thus it is not the players wrong decision all the times that they lose. Many teams are bribed by bookies and the share the loss obtained from their gamblers.
9371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 10, 2017, 10:27:32 AM
It's addicting when you win because the chance of playing again is high. You will want more profit and it becomes your daily habit. You will play everyday because it will be part of your everyday life.

It is because we all want more money and there is not enough for your greed which is ever increasing. The greed and temptation to win more money makes a person mad and then they cannot stop playing. The habits that appear are due to the temptation and sense of luck that prevails in them. It makes them think that they are going to get lucky again - but then they end up losing what they won and the cycle repeats itself.
9372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 09, 2017, 01:00:50 PM

Not only when you win, you should also have limits for loss so that you will not loss more than what you can afford to loss. So setting limits on both profit and loss before you start to gamble can make you smart gambler.

Smart gambler will only gamble for fun and use small amount of bankroll. Smart gambler know that we cant win when we play that is why we should only play for fun. When we have the limit, it is not going to help us if we still use high amount of bankroll then we are going to lose alot compare to use small amount of bankroll

I agree with you, specially if you are talking about casino games. But you can gamble for profit if you talking about poker or sports betting, or even trading, that is still a way of gambling. You can of course do all of these for fun, but it is still smart gambling and understandable if you try to play for profit in these cases.

In EV+ games its possible to make profits (though low) by making smart moves. It is important to develop skills and knowledge on them. Now if EV- games are considered then luck is the major factor and not skills. The house edge is what one must be careful of and not play too much so as to conserve their winnings - better stop gamble while on a green streak and not be greedy.
9373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 09, 2017, 12:50:46 PM
Many become addicted to gambling because i think some of them have no luck and they always lose everytime they play. That is the main reason why they become addicted in to gambling.

Gambling addiction is very common, but the impact of gambling is very bad is misery.

It is one of the sins of human but it is controllable. If one is emotionally strong they can control their playing habits they can save themselves from going broke. The impact of addicted gambling is no doubt misery. But if you are not aware of that then you should not gamble in the first place. If the casino owners did not make any money (by making the players lose) - how can you expect them to run a casino in a flourishing manner? One has to earn while the other has to suffer.
9374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: June 09, 2017, 12:34:03 PM
Gambling is a game that you either win or lose.It is good when you profit always not a loser.Theres a gambling that i will become an early millionaire,I will wait for that because I believe that this is not a scam they never get cash out.

I'm afraid I don't quite understand you.
You think gambling is not a scam and people get paid out or?


Maybe he is believing that gambling is a scam or not literally gambling but there are some gambling sites that are trying to scam gamblers. But I rarely see this type of case. He's using the word literally "gambling" as there's a need to point out what specific meaning as activity, industry, or website/casino.
It's easy to stay away in sites where the main purpose is just to scam people, well this community alone is very active in detecting
those kind of bad actions and I believe if we will be active of sharing our observation as well we can help others not to be victims.

Gambling sites are not scammers specially the reputed ones. Otherwise they would be caught by the developers of other sites. The loss is a part of gambling and not a scam. If you dont have that guts to confront your losses then you must not gamble at all. The house edge is there is EV- games and that what makes you lose money in case of the games where you keep on betting.
9375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 09, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
I consider it harmless entertainment until you use money that you shouldn't use or get seriously addicted to it, then it's wrong... I think people should maintain their composure while playing and never using allot of money (regardless of how much is that, but how much it means to them).

It is true that the one who is using their money to gamble is responsible to their decisions. Then the way they gamble is also their decision. Whether that win or lose is thus their own consequence. Then losing is a part of their game as well. If they can control the way the play and not get addicted to it then it wont be very dangerous to the player or his family.
9376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 08, 2017, 03:10:33 PM
Gambling isn't bad, but you need to know your limits. Don't gamble with money or bitcoins that you need. Put a stop loss level. Gamble only for fun not to earn money. Just my opinion

It is correct and if one keeps a control on their gambling habits then it wont be bad for them. They can continue with other livelihood work along with it as well. But if gambling is taking away their time from family and work then of course it is affecting them badly and needs to be checked. It is possible to keep a check on gambling, how one can do that is their own discretion.
9377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: June 08, 2017, 03:07:08 PM
Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes
For simplest explanation, gambling is a matter of fortune. No matter how long you gamble as long as you play the game, you don't have a difference with new gamblers in terms of winning the game.


However in EV+ games the skills and knowledge are important and they can give an edge to experienced players and doom newbies. In EV- games the luck is the only factor, no question of skills there. Gambling is just a mode of entertainment and not to be taken as mode of earning. There are many professional gamblers but they are handful and their lives are not easy, no everyone can try that.
9378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 08, 2017, 03:03:05 PM
Many become addicted to gambling because i think some of them have no luck and they always lose everytime they play. That is the main reason why they become addicted in to gambling.

It is because many people believe in their luck which might be false but making them understand it is impossible and they wont stop gambling till they win. Some people are in it for greed and even try to rig the casino to try to win. But the majority of the returning players is due to the cashing of losses and the promotional offers that the casinos organize to gather potential gambling addicts into their membership.
9379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 08, 2017, 02:59:06 PM
Bankroll management is the answer for how to gambling in a smart way. With banroll management, you can gambling for long run and you can control your greed and gambling run. There are many pro tipster that using "units" for their bankroll. You can try follow them.

In other words one needs to control their playing habits to prevent losing too much. If they have the habit of betting huge amounts and subsequently losing it all then they must work on improving that. Once they can control their habits then its possible to play gambling smartly - restrict the number of plays per day. Otherwise they will end up losing much and that wont help at all.
9380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 07, 2017, 02:21:50 PM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?


Smart gambler stop in the gamble once it win in the game and get the profit of initial investment.

First of all gambling is not an investment. Its considered as a sin in many communities as well while investments are not. Most gamblers are idiots - which is the reason of their unemployment and frustration in life due to which they gamble. Hence when they win they cannot stop their greed from taking over their minds and they gamble more and more. This eventually leads to a net loss and no net profit.
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