LOL, so sorry! I can't even read it all now myself! I've only ever read one other casino's T&C but it's good to know this verbiage is industry standard

OMG. That's long... I'll edit, try to condense as much as possible.

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Maybe tomorrow. I don't even want to read all that shit.

As promised…

First my disclaimer: This is just my interpretation of coinbet.cc's Terms and Conditions. I don’t claim to know how to decipher, which is why I have questions. I’m also not picking sides here; I have given coinbet.cc and players the benefit of the doubt in their claims. Perhaps you can say I’ve even egged some of it on by asking for proof and such. Speaking of which… coinbet.cc, you’ve been asked to provide info to validate that email. To be fair, you posted the claim, please make an attempt to show us it's real. It would only help to verify your story if you do.  

If you all care to read (this is going to be a little lengthy), enjoy. If I misinterpret something or am getting too far into the details, please let me know, it’s possible that I’m over analyzing this thing. I’ve only read through the T&Cs and FAQs in totality once, skimmed this time around to find the sections I had immediate questions about.

Statements in italics are copied directly from the site. I don’t think I’ve omitted any info, definitely not in an attempt to make these words work for me. If I left anything out that aids interpretation, call me out. Questions in bold probably require most of you to put your thinking hats on before answering.  

I’m glad I was directed to read the T&Cs and FAQs. Even though It is recommended that a player reads all the necessary rules regulations and other information regarding their participation in the Casino, so as to avoid any possible misunderstanding or confusion as to the way the Casino operates, I actually find myself more confused now. Like most, I don’t go around reading T&Cs unless I have an issue (admit it, you don’t either), but since the invitation to read it was extended several times, I figured I’d give it a go. I’m glad I did because 1) I can tell most people haven’t read it all, and 2) it’s good to know terms and conditions may be changed or altered the player accepts this as part of the prerogative of the website to do so when and if necessary. Wouldn’t you hate to have the T&Cs change suddenly without any warning? Certainly, but we all have been warned this can happen; it’s normal business actually. I’m just glad that each change will be time and date-stamped so I only have to read it once! Just remember that it is the responsibility of the player to check the terms at the time of deposit.

There are several areas of concern I’ll make mention of, but let’s start with the first thing that every player should ask himself before partaking in coinbet.cc’s entertainment (or any casino): Am I ‘legally’ allowed to play here? coinbet.cc offers no representation of warranty, either implicit or explicit, regarding a Player's legal right to play in the Casino, so I assume if I deposit BTC (even it were illegal for me in the US) I shouldn’t have an issue and I won’t violate the rules and forfeit any winnings. According to the FAQs, since the ever popular cryptocurrency; bitcoin is not considered “legal tender” and isn’t recognized as a legitimate form of currency by the U.S. government, I’m good to go but I’m totally confused because In placing real bets, the Player acknowledges that they are legally permitted to do this within their jurisdiction territory or country. At first read, it seems clear-cut and it absolutely is. Problem is, technically if I’m not legally allowed to play, regardless if I deposit BTC or USD, the T&C can be used to refuse payouts. I can’t imagine this card wouldn’t be pulled with small wins, but can it be interpreted that way, sure.  But regardless, we are all warned several times in the T&C that Participation in the activities and games of the coinbet.cc is open only to residents of those jurisdictions where such participation is legal and not prohibited. Participation in the Game is void wherever prohibited by law. Doubt I’d win that argument.

But why argue? Everything I need to know is explained in the T&Cs and besides The Player shall hold the Casino, its employees, (pretty much everyone) risk free and shall fully underwrite the same from any and all costs, expenses, liabilities and damages whatsoever that could result because of: (i) the Player's entry, use, or reuse of the Web Site, (ii) the Player's use of any materials at the Web Site, (iii) the Player's entry, use, or reuse of the Casino's server, (iv) the Player's activity in the Casino and its games, or, (v) the Player's acceptance of any winnings or prizes, so getting a lawyer, if I feel I was wronged, even if I have proof… is pointless. Clearly I waive my right to ever sue coinbet.cc for any reason. Is this normal? In fact, At all times coinbet.cc has within its rights the ability to change or withdraw any of the games or activities within the Casino without recourse and without notice, so does this mean I’m shit out of luck if this happens and I’m expecting a big payout? Honestly, even if I had what I felt to be a ‘case’, I can’t say for certain that I’d even try. coinbet.cc will seek criminal and contractual sanctions against any customer involved in fraud, dishonesty or criminal acts. coinbet.cc will withhold payment to any customer where any of these are suspected. Albeit mostly unintentional, I wouldn’t doubt that I could randomly review an account and point out where the T&C was violated. On second thought, I better think twice before posting my two cents from now on. The customer shall indemnify and shall be liable to pay to coinbet.cc, on demand, all costs, charges or losses sustained or incurred by coinbet.cc (including any direct, indirect or consequential losses, loss of profit and loss of reputation) arising directly or indirectly from the customer's fraud, dishonesty or criminal act.

Moot point – moving along. We do not accept deposits or wagers from the USA, so legal or not I’d be fighting a losing battle because I’m from the USA. No point in even discussing it further.

I don’t read T&Cs often, but how is it that coinbet.cc will pursue the perpetrator using the full extent of law enforcement and its agencies in order to safeguard its reputation and will instigate any legal suits for damages against the said player and prosecute accordingly, but I’m shit out of luck even if I try to do the same? I’m concerned over this post now… I have no intention of trying to damage rep here. But can I be sued if this post isn’t favorable to coinbet.cc’s rep? Shit.

I understand that Should there be a discrepancy in the result displayed the result will stand only on the Casino server software... what piques my interest here isn’t the fact that Should a dispute arise, you and coinbet.cc agree that the transaction log database will be the ultimate authority in such matters, it’s the fact that coinbet.cc shall accept no liability for any damages or losses which are deemed or alleged to have arisen out of or in connection with coinbet.cc's website or its content; including without limitation, delays or interruptions in operation or transmission, loss or corruption of data, communication or lines failure, any person's misuse of the site or its content or any errors or omissions in content. Why? I won’t say it’s easy to have corrupt logs because really it doesn’t matter. Apparently even if the issue is with the site, we agreed we wouldn’t hold them responsible for ‘lost winnings.’ For those who have had technical issues and got credited, just know that coinbet.cc didn’t have to, so consider it a courtesy.

Okay… I haven’t been at this for an even an hour but I ready to get back to other stuff so I’ll hurry the rest along. I’ll be happy to explain my thought process further, just say so.

I don’t play in the sportsbook, so why must bet there to take advantage of the bonus?
Half of this wager amount must come from the sportsbook

And just like everyone else, I’m officially confused with the bonuses now:
You can withdraw your original deposit amount anytime, but may risk forfeiting the bonus if you have not met the requirements. but...
Anything you’ve earned over the bonus amount can be withdrawn as well as your original deposit anytime, however if you have not played the minimum amount of games you will forfeit the bonus.  

It sounds like I can withdraw winnings from bonus credits but If you opt in for the bonus, you can not withdraw any amount from your account until you have met the wagering requirements. What? Wait a second… to tired to process now, but I this leaves too much that can be interpreted.

Not sure if it matters anyway because The Player acknowledges that in order to be eligible for any promotion or bonus they must be playing with the primary currency used in the country where they have a registered address and are playing from. But I think I’m safe if I deposit BTC? I’m not entirely sure. I’m confused.
 
I’ll just be mindful that if I make a deposit, I have to bet it all otherwise I might not get my deposit!. If the value of a deposit is not played through in full before a withdrawal is requested, coinbet.cc reserves the right to reject the withdrawal. Or did I read this wrong?

I don’t know how to bet in the sportsbook but because Any bets placed containing selections at odds of less than 1/2 will not count towards any rollover requirement, I’m concerned because I don’t know if this can be applied to casino games too?

Understandably, coinbet.cc respectfully reserves the right to cancel any Player's account for any reason whatsoever, but what if I made a mistake (by not reading your T&C for example), and referred my college buddies or colleagues? Since Only one (1) Real Account per player, per household, address, e-mail address, credit card number, bank account, and environments where computers are shared (university, fraternity, school, public library, workplace, etc), this could be used against me until the end of time… technically, right? Seriously, does this mean that if one of my co-workers can’t play here if I do? The T&C doesn’t say sharing the same computer – it’s says environment.

But I’m not sure if I’d want to be an affiliate. Should I be concerned that coinbet.cc is the trade name of the Casino, and the Player has no rights to use or employ such a term, or any other terms, graphics, text, concepts or methodologies, by participating in the Web Site and the material contained therein. Maybe this is superseded with the T&Cs for referrals? IDK. But since Affiliates can earn up to 45% of the net losses of their member players, it’s something to think about.

Again, this is just my preliminary review of coinbet.cc's T&Cs.

BTW - Remind me never to do this again… it took more time applying formatting than writing it! Next time I’ll do this as I’m reading, it was hell trying to locate what I knew I read!

I don't doubt that you'd have an issue refunding deposits if there's a problem. I also know I'd have better luck betting vs spinning the wheel. But what can I say.... I play slots sometimes for hours at a time, especially when I'm working; there's nothing like having to be occupied at all times. I'm not sitting at my desk only concentrating on slots, I'm also very productive at work too. I just can't do that with poker yet, but I might figure out how eventually.

Yes, there were issues with the vouchers, technical (them) and ethical (players). Informed people know what info they can take with a grain of salt... Which is why one should base their decision to play using as much info as they can. Very seldom do I make decisions using the experience of one somebody; scams go both ways. What I like to see are a shitload of reviews, both negative and positive. I realize that not all players post their experiences, and there's no way to account for that margin of error. Patterns help me make my decision, but I don't allow one or two posts to make he decision for me. Okay, time to get off this damn iPad. Takes forever to respond.

Not taking sides everyone! But in all fairness... Yes, coinbet.cc, I can say you have been flexible, at least for me. Due to errors with your slots, you gave me several vouchers, which I happily used. Unfortunately I think there's still an issue with the slots  but since you've admitted to having tech difficulties relating to the slots and he vouchers, I simply can't and won't hold that against you.

Of course I'm nobody but a potential customer looking for a slot casino to call home.

Again, not on anyone's side here. But I probably have 500 addresses, give or take. So I wouldn't call that a lie right off. And I can't speak about any other games except for the slots. I'm learning poker (getting good at bluffing ;P  and I don't know shit about sports. If I'm watching a game with my hubbie, I choose "my team" based on their colors.... Hey, knock it off, yes I'm a true girly girl.

But can you blame them for being on the defense? If we can flick them off and call them out, why can't they do the same? Let's not talk of professionalism when running a bitcoin related business. That's a whole other post that would include prolly the majority. We all have our guards up, that's only natural. But I do have a few questions about their T&Cs I'm about to post.

I don't think his response was eluding my question. I'm actually glad this information can be found, in writing, on their site. I just read the T&Cs and the FAQs.... actually.... I think I'll grab my laptop before I say anymore about that.

Well said! I guess we all just have to filter through the trash to get the information we're looking for.

This article most applies to telephone tapping... Not he same as recording a call. There are also only a few states where both parties have to be notified to record a conversation. A loophole in the law... only one party has to be in the know; doesn't matter if that party is the one recording the conversation, as long as he's a participant in the convo, he's free to record. That's in the US though. Not sure about other countries. Where is coinbet.cc based from anyway? Doesn't matter one way or the other for me I could care less honestly. As long as I get the entertainment I pay for, they could be based out to Timbucktoo.

You violate their terms and conditions if you give false info; your personal information is required when you sign up.

Did you deposit funds and if so, how much of that $750 was yours? If the balance of your voucher credit disappeared, that shouldn't be a surprise because the program was cancelled. And why were you told they didn't want your business anymore? I'm just curious because from your post, there's nothing that would warrant that. But... And I'm not taking sides here... They've made it pretty clear that you can't withdraw without making a deposit.

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Never mind... Found post.

And where did you get this information?? So not true, it depends on what you're mining. I'm building a 15 card rig and expect to receive ROI within two months. And this isn't calculating resale of my GPUs. Of course this bigger investment gets me more hash power, but to say ROI is impossible is absurd. If OP manages his portfolio right, ROI can be realized. Personally I'll be mining scrypt but that's because scrypt coins is more profitable for me.

OP, be diligent in your research and make an informed decision. Don't just take any one post as the gospel, especially if here isn't any first hand experience to back up a claim. That includes my post too.

Good luck, and keep us informed on what you decide

Lawdy! Lol. What have I gotten myself into, lol. How do we start?

Well well. It seems like coinboss4life situation may not let up. I'm not on anyone' semidetached here and I don't want to add fuel to this fire, but I'll add my experiences with coinbet.cc in case someone is deciding to use this casino. I'm still deciding myself... I like the games but most importantly, I like what they're offering. Apologize in advance for the many grammatical errors in this post... Using my iPad

First - I have never made a deposit. I've only gambled with their free vouchers, but if real play is anything like the voucher play, I wouldn't play here. Why? Evidently there was an issue with the slots' difficulty level and the vouchers. Literally, none of the slots paid; thousands of spins not a single win. But I will say that the rep here has been extremely accommodating to this fact and he gave all who we're having issues another voucher when this was first realized.

That voucher was the same thing after a couple of wins... One being a "big" win of about $20. After that win (not quite 30 minutes) the slots stopped paying completely. At this point, I started collecting screenshots to send to tech support as instructed. I didn't receive anything but a cookie cutter response. Since I couldn't use the voucher anymore, my account was credited directly. Again, the same. There were only two games I found that actually paid, but so little there's no way one could sustain a balance. The only reason I continued to play was to see how long it could go without a win.  

The rep here allowed me another chance at a free voucher because my claim was considered "legitimate." Again more slot difficulty issues, only two games paying. I also reached out to tech support and they were responsive and assured me they were working on the issue. No canned response, this was a rep who I communicated with, several times.

I recognized the problems I was having as technical issues so there wasn't a need to accuse anything at that point. Not to mention, the vouchers were given out to test the games, so how could I complain?!

So, thinking that maybe my account might be flagged as being one trying to scam, I figured I'd cancel that account and open a real one, with my real information. But prior to doing this I contacted the rep here, told him my intentions and requested for my first account to be cancelled. Oh, I wasn't able to access the transaction page at all on my original account, tried for days. I'm not sure why; I've never tried to withdraw, even before the latest withdrawal requirements, and I only had one account. My new account is actually attached to my real personal information; I wanted to make sure that by creating an account with first name Lucky, I wouldn't ruin my chance of ever being granted a real winning. Anyways, needless to say, it was the same with my new account, only the same two slots paying, and very little.

There was another issue, although I can't recall if his happened my last play with my first account, or my first/only play under my real account. The scatters error was fixed somewhat (3 scatters resulted in free spins). Only problem, one game I had over 1500 free spins, no wins. Another slot was getting just as high so no need to entertain. I just started playing the game that was paying to see where it would go. Same as before. I sent tech support screenshots of the free spins lock up, didn't receive a response.

That's it in a nutshell. I haven't launched an all out bashing because honestly I don't feel it's warranted in my situation... After all, the slot difficulty level was, possibly still is, tied directly to the free vouchers. And I've only used free vouchers to play. It wouldn't be fair for me to assess game play right now because I haven't had the opportunity to really play since I've had nothing but issues with the slots from the start. I'm feeling out others' experiences before making a deposit. But it won't be until that time I can provide a true assessment. I can't make a judgement just yet.

Hope this makes sense. I believe in giving everyone a fair shot. For those who are familiar with a lot of my posts, you know I try to be as unbiased as possible, providing as much info as I can so you can make an informed decision. This is just another one of those

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Wow, thanks!

LOL! Damn, I'm an adult and I still can't muster the courage to scam! I think he believes he's entitled to the whatever thousand... what is it, 20 something? Even so, I'm sure he's not going to respond again. But I would like to know if he has any other alts on this forum. Subscribed,

Well, the burden of proof is on him if you ask me, but let's see what he comes up with. So I'm assuming that he probably has a couple of alt accounts here on this forum since he had to solicit you via PM to get the voucher/coupon codes. Do you mind sharing those alts so we all can be aware? If he's trying to scam a business, I wouldn't doubt he's probably pulled a quick one or two over forum members.

Okay... these are some serious accusations here. You got proof of this?

Given that this is a new account... only posting to this thread, I wonder how much of this is believable...

Interesting... I wonder if this is an alt account of PumperAndDumper. Too late now, but is there any way we can find out for sure?