I've never once seen an xst dev respond to any fud. I doubt they are going to start.

The devs here don't delete anything. If you want that kind of censorship, go to the shadowcoin thread.

Fudders make the page count awesome. Get with the program.

The jokes on you because I'm fudding so people dump into my buy orders.

Last ditch effort:

Do you have testnet = 1 in your config file or something?

I booted up the latest, 2.0.1.0, and it worked fine, although for some reason it started to resync the chain. But that was working fine too.

I know you are just trolling, but two points might help you understand if you don't already:

1. The stealthtext android app is the SMS client. It sends the SMS message. Even the screenshot you linked is just a client. You might think that SMS needs too look like your android SMS chat box, but it doesn't need to. Any program can send an SMS if the phone user allows it.

2. You are kidding that cloak SMS is anon, right? You can clearly see balance information and accounts right in the SMS. Plus the whole service goes through a central "claok pal" server. That's a single point of failure. The differences between cloak pal and stealth text are huge.

If you have a serious question. Ask it. But you are just being a troll at this point and it's getting a bit tedious.

Tedious troll. That's really the worst kind because not only are you a troll, you are boring.

I've got a 100 XST bounty for the person who can get the best screenshot of https://coinmarketcap.com/ when XST is at its highest point in the pump that seems to be brewing. Of course you have to get the top slots down to XST to qualify!

PM me your entry if you get a good one!

Oh, hell yeah. Wallet problems!

Time to score some cheap SSD.

Take your time dev.


W00t!

Yeah, I'm trying to envision a coin that solves the real cryptographic problems with anonymity. BBR is as close as it comes right now, unfortunately.

Jamming chat, etc., in a wallet is a poor attempt to conflate different types of information exchange. In a true trustless and anonymous transaction protocol, the information is a shared secret between sender and receiver that allows the receiver to prove a transfer of ownership.

You may think to yourself that chat solves this problem. Namely, sender and receiver set up an encrypted channel and exchange the secret. That can work great, but you don't need zk proofs in this situation. zk proofs solve the problem of ever exchanging the secret in the first place. So you don't need chat. I.e. it's cryptographically irrelevant.

Chat also has the problem that the sender and receiver need direct communication to exchange the secret. That's horribly limiting: "Hey Ted, we need to exchange some money, when are you available to do that?" At some point, the conversation has to be initiated on the private channel. So sender and recipient have to meet and exchange a secret to meet up on the channel. It defers the problem and so you still haven't solved it. Again. Chat, etc. become irrelevant because of this need to establish the private channel.

Also, zk proofs are good to solve the problem of exchanging a secret because it eliminates the need of the exchange. But stealth addresses already do that. So why implement zk proofs to solve a problem already solved by the coin that you cloned from (vertcoin)?

Right now, for crypto, zk proofs have been promised for zerocoin (zk=zero knowledge). But zerocoin is being worked on by people (1) smart enough to conceive of it, (2) smart enough to provide a public blue print giving enough information for one to determine where the proof fits, and (3) smart enough to know that even with this blueprint, they are still going to beat anyone who tries to implement their idea.

Hence, my conclusion (for which I can find no contradictory evidence) is that the shadowcoin dev borrowed "zk-SNARK" from the zerocoin whitepaper in the hopes that they make a release and he can clone the technology into shadowcoin.

I have no doubt that the SDC dev can pull this off. My doubt lies completely with the zerocoin team in that they have conceived of an idea that is impractical to implement and therefore impossible to clone because it will never exist.

Except where I say


Someone link how zk-SNARKS are going to be applied to anon and you could see me open my BTC wallet to buy a lot of shadow coin.

I'll post my buy right here on the thread too.

I'm not going to hold my breath, though.

I'm even more skeptical now because you didn't even bother to link to an explanation of how zk-SNARKS could possibly be used to prove key ownership.

At least wave your hands or make excuses. But don't ignore the question.


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Chat, video, phone calls, smoke signals absolutely do not matter to people who care about anonymity and security.


[addendum 2]

XC Tor stick is still vaporware: http://xc-official.com/xc-tor-stick/

People can already do video and chat with skype. That's a nice gimmick, but in terms of cryptocurrency usefulness, completely irrelevant.

zk-SNARKS would be cool if they weren't chronically vaporware. Frankly, without any hint from the team of how zk-SNARKs can be used to prove key ownership, one must be skeptical. There is absolutely no indication on this thread or anywhere else how the proofs will be implemented to anonymize transactions. I'd have a lot of SDC myself if there were. (If so, please link me to this info. I could be wrong, but I've looked pretty hard.)

I'll acknowledge that stealth addresses are awesome. But they were in vertcoin first, so not terribly innovative for another coin to add, unless they are layered over other anon.

In fact, the only coin to do this is SSD. It combines Tor anon with stealth addresses (which the SSD dev calls "TimeVortex 2"). In SSD, stealth addresses are already included in the source and Qt. The stealth addresses in SSD won't be activated for a week or so, to give most users a time to upgrade. I think that this delay has to do with the fact the stealth addresses create a different kind of transaction than regular addresses and so everyone on the net needs to be running the same wallet so they don't get rejected.

Now, either Tor or stealth addresses alone are not innovative. However, together they are very powerful, and a completely new combination. As the stealth people point out, but have yet to deliver, the combination protects against block chain analysis and network analysis.

I'd say, given all this, that right now, SSD is the most anonymous coin. Period. Maybe SDC will catch up.

I've been watching SSD. WTF? This place is a three ring circus.

My coins have quintupled in value. Holy smokes.

From what the dev says, pretty soon.

See, it worked:

I thought you were a Chinese fudster. But the Nigerian fudsters are much worse. 

I'm dumping now.

Post from dev. It's a delay.

Dump you coins!!!!!

Look!!! Frownie faces:

 


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Still working on my FUD-fu.