I plan to add a new feature to simplify their job. Here is a brief description:
1. advertiser accesses AA via https, enters the captcha
2. AA generates unique PHP code for advertiser
3. advertiser embeds this code into his/her goal page
4. when visitor opens the goal page, this code will sign & send info about successful visit to anonymous ads
5. advertiser can access report of successful visits and reward affiliates for them
Later support for other (non-PHP) server platforms can be added.
The feature added in some simplified manner: AA doesn't generate unique PHP code for advertiser (it generates only RSA keypair). But there is an explanation and simple PHP example. I also added some explanations for affiliates and for advertisers. If you decide to embed goal tracking into your PHP site - please let me know, I can help you. If you port it to some other language or make CMS module and don't mind publishing it - please let me know too  So, now theoretically advertisers have an easier way to track visitors' actions and reward affiliates. I hope it works on practice. |
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Oh, you seem to have got it then. Are you using a CMS yourself? If so, there may be a script for that. If there isn't one, once you have one coded you may be able to sell it as a digital good and recoup your investment for the coding. If you don't have the funds for coding the script, I suggest GLBSE. They just went into Beta about a week ago. No, I am not using CMS. Hmm... CMS plugin that would allow to track bitcoin addresses is an interesting idea! I do have some free php example here, but maybe wordpress/joomla/drupal plugin would be a better option. Regarding GLBSE, I issued AA asset few days ago... Didn't advertise it though because I am not sure how many I want to sell and what price should be. |
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Advertisers are supposed do the following 2 steps:
1) pay any amount to Anonymous Ads to bootstrap their ads (to get some impressions and to get connected to affiliates).
2) track bitcoin addresses passed as GET parameter and use those addresses to reward affiliates for successful visits (thus getting more impressions & visits from them)
Main source of income for affiliates should be step 2. But for some reason it doesn't work: most advertisers don't do step 2.
So I need to spend money received at step 1 to support affiliates for showing ads.
However (unlike advertisers) I can't detect successful visits to reward affiliates. And I don't want to pay botnets for fake clicks and impressions. Is there some reason the links in ads can't clickthrough to your site, which would then redirect the user to the advertisers'? Seems like you could track visits to your own pages rather easily. I do track the visits. The list of tracked bitcoin addresses with amount of unique clicks during the last <billing cycle> days is available in csv format, the link is on the Ad's stats page (e.g. http://anonymousads.com/ad/1/stats). But I can't distinguish successful visits from the ones generated by scripts or botnets. Advertisers should pay only for clicks that help them to reach their business goals. Only they know what successful visit is. I plan to add a new feature to simplify their job. Here is a brief description: 1. advertiser accesses AA via https, enters the captcha 2. AA generates unique PHP code for advertiser 3. advertiser embeds this code into his/her goal page 4. when visitor opens the goal page, this code will sign & send info about successful visit to anonymous ads 5. advertiser can access report of successful visits and reward affiliates for them Later support for other (non-PHP) server platforms can be added. |
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First page is good.. But we are not #1 yet.
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ad submission in Chrome (mac) seems to be broken works in firefox.
I am sorry, I can't test it with mac. Chromium in ubuntu works for me. |
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oh that, I was trying to get regular ads to show up, but I guess the no images rule broke that, was trying to find a way around it, but gave up, I'm not as familiar with html as I'd like to be.
unfortunately bitcoin forum doesn't allow images in signatures anymore.. and AA doesn't connect ads to affiliates that don't display ads.. so if you want your link to point to the list of ads, you'll need to invest (or fake) some impressions to get connected... |
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both addresses are me. I made the first one and thought I could change the filter levels later. then saw it seemed to be locked so I made the second one. It is ok to make as many addresses as you need. What I am talking about is that the link in your signature is not a referral link. You can click it and see what happens. You referral link should be anonymousads.com?partner=<your affiliate's withdrawal address> -- in that case you receive 10% of bootstrap deposits of advertisers you attract with it. |
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More popular? I don't think so. Especially when people with 40k impressions seem to earn something like 0.07 BTC... AA does not usually pay for impressions, because impressions can be faked easily. Yes, there is a problem with monetization, and I am permanently working to solve it. Affiliates that add their highly ranked sites earn more in latest days (you can access their stats if you navigate from http://anonymousads.com/sites page). Advertisers can see the list of sites that showed their ads (and they can create a weighted "paylist" at btcrelay to pay all those sites at once thus getting much more new impressions from them for less money). For example, here is the list of sites that showed ad #1. |
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Thanks for your opinions, but I would prefer to avoid:
1. removing ads without any notice and explanation (errors can irreversibly harm innocent people).
2. blocking paid ad without a refund (I don't know easy and reliable way to refund anonymous advertisers).
3. penalizing anonymous advertisers for some gossip about their behaviour (it is none of my business what anonymous advertisers and affiliates do outside anonymousads.com).
Personally I don't like this ad because it can be considered to be a fraud against Dropbox. But I am not sure if it is illegal and I shouldn't impose my moral standards on everybody.
I think affiliates should decide what is appropriate for their sites and what is not (and I should enable them doing it).
Right now there is a simple mechanism for rating-based ad filtration. Affiliates specify filtration level upon registration. If they set it to 0 then they accept things that are commonly considered to be more controversial than porn and drugs. If they set it to 100, then they accept only safe ads.
Regarding this particular ad, I've set a rating value to 50. Affiliates that accept gambling would probably accept this risky ad too. If this is not the case, I can lower the rating to 40 (porn), 30 (drugs) or even lower.
I set negative ratings only to ads that are obviously erroneous or dangerous (such as broken links and viruses).
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arsenische, you've accepted an ad on your service that says, "8GB Extra Dropbox Space → Pay what you want/can; No set price!" On Freelancer.com, users are getting hustled by job posters who have them jumping through hoops to complete prequalifications for getting hired: pass an online typing test and send them a screenshot of the results, and sign up under them for a Free DropBox account "to receive work files". None of the applicants are hired. The same job is then posted and reposted under various dummy accounts, with tens and twenties of hungry applicants getting scammed by it. For each one that signs up, the referring DropBox user receives 1 GB of additional free space. Just wanted to let you know what you were enabling with that ad. Satori, thanks for your message. I was a little worried about this ad (you can see a little discussion here), that is why I set it rating of 50. I assume affiliates that allow gambling would be tolerant to this kind of service. If you don't want to see this ad, use affiliates with rating higher than 50. Frankly speaking I am not sure what to do with it. Maybe this ad can be considered SCAM, in that case I should probably set its rating to somewhare about 20, so that most affiliates never show it. I don't have any strict guidelines yet. What do you think? |
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regarding ratings: i think assets should be rated by independent agencies, it seems to be a totally separate business. but it might be useful to fetch info from them and to show on the asset's page.
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I tried https://glbse.com/asset/create. I kept the values and tried again in the new browser tab - and it worked! (maybe the form in the original tab had been expired?) Anyway, I see it is working now. Great stuff! Thanks! that's great news. not sure about the expiration of a form but you maybe hit a time when server/software was quickly updated and all sessions were dropped (authentication) or some of the fields caused the internal server error. I get them a lot but mostly when I try to access pages that are not there, like https://glbse.com/ipo/5 instead of https://glbse.com/ipo/4 or transfer shares to an email instead of a nick name. those errors will be eventually all caught and reported as a nice human readable message ... can you also share some details about your asset? (is it AA? thread or forum where you discus it, etc.) * mila curious and good luck in your effort! Yes, it is AA. I don't have any reasonable business plan yet and haven't made detailed contract. Was in hurry to take this little nice 2-letter ticker symbol for Anonymous Ads with minimal obligations Thanks! |
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I tried https://glbse.com/asset/create. I kept the values and tried again in the new browser tab - and it worked! (maybe the form in the original tab had been expired?) Anyway, I see it is working now. Great stuff! Thanks! |
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just a minor technicality
when you issue shares, they are credited to the sub-account of the issuer
your main account pays the fee for IPO and controls the account of the asset manager
but the shares appear and remain in the asset manager account unless they are sold or transferred
shares not moved out from the asset manager sub-account do not receive vote right in motions nor dividends
if you want to become owner of shares of your issued asset, please transfer them to your 'main' user accout
and yes, you can offer them for sale or keep them or transfer
Oh, I see.. Thanks! I tried to create an asset, and got "Internal Server Error". Is this feature functional? |
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> When shares are connected, they are under issuer's control.
Not sure what the hell that means, but you're correct for all the other ones.
Nefario.
Sorry, I meant "When shares are created..." |
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@nefario, @mila, thanks for clarification. I am sorry if I am asking questions on topics that are already explained somewhere, in that case just please give me a link.
So...
1. IPO is just the date of creation of shares.
2. Amount of shares created will correspond to the value specified at "Shares for sale in IPO".
3. When shares are connected, they are under issuer's control.
4. That means the issuer can either sell them at any time and any price, or leave them for himself, or send them to somebody.
Is that correct?
Thanks!
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I like new design! Of course some features are missing, but I am sure they will be implemented sooner or later. Unfortunately new design doesn't work well on chromium (textareas and input boxes don't have borders; they are white and it is impossible to notice them on the white background)  Btw, I got couple of questions about IPO... Not sure if it is the right place to ask or if they are already answered somewhere.. 1. There is the following sentence in the IPO creation page: You must specify how many shares are to be created, for your own account (that is, for your own personal ownership and represents your stake in the company) and how many will be made available for sale on the IPO launch day.
I see where I can enter "Shares for sale in IPO", but I don't see where I can enter shares to be created for my ownership. Am I missing something? 2. Is it possible to pay dividents before IPO is finished? 3. Is it possible to create additional shares for the same ticker symbol after IPO is finished? (If yes - then how much does it cost and how will they be distributed)? Thanks! |
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New feature: Advertisers can reward affiliates that advertise on listed sites to encourage more impressions & clicks from them. Advertisers can either manually select desired site and send any amount of bitcoins to its reward address, or they can use btcrelay service to pay to the weighted list of connected affiliates with sites. Please see "Sites" tab of Ad's page. PS: it needs testing, please don't risk large amounts |
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Ok, now affiliate's earnings consist of 3 sources of income: 1) earnings from advertisers -- that's what advertisers pay for successful visits or impressions (or just to encourage new impressions) 2) earnings from referrals -- that's what Anonymous Ads pays for attracting advertisers that deposit to bootsrap their ads 3) earnings from sites -- that's what Anonymous Ads pays for having affiliate code on the evaluated sites When advertiser makes a bootstrap payment, 10% goes to affiliate that attracted the advertiser (affiliate #1 by default) and 50% is being distributed between affiliates that have their codes on the listed sites. I am testing this feature now, so affiliates that have their sites listed will receive some btc eventually |
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