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941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you take Part in Gambling Lotteries ? on: March 24, 2024, 01:37:51 PM
I used to be addicted to lotteries. After I buy the lottery I think to myself if I win there or if I can win I will get a big reward. I often bought lotteries for this purpose. But at some point when I was getting nothing I realised about this and gradually moved away from there. A lesson I learned from this is that I can keep money I can afford to lose and any amount I can lose into the lottery. There is no point in applying any strategy as it is entirely up to luck. I don't get the excitement I used to get after buying the lottery. Because I no longer expect to win when I buy the lottery.
Lotteries can makes us becomes addicted and that's why many people addicted to lotteries and they willing to used more money to buy the lotteries. They don't care if they can't win because they still have a hope that they can win in the other days. As long as they can knows how much money they  can used to buy lotteries and they don't break or used more money than that amount, they are safe and don't have to afraid with the addicted to lotteries. But if not, we will used more and more money without any controls and that will makes us addicted to lotteries in a short time. Yes, we must learns about self-control in any gambling games so that can helps us to avoids to becomes addicted to gambling.
I would not say I fear lottery games at all but it is the most popular in my locality when it comes to physical gambling. You can easily see many lottery kiosks in most neighbourhoods of my country where you can gamble with a small amount of money and wait for your fate within a short time. I believe it is this possibility to wager the small money that often lures people into it, and before they know it, they can be addicted to it. I must also say that I don't always have issues with gambling but for the time I was engrossed with the lottery, it was so bad then, to the point that anytime I go out, it would be to play the lottery before doing anything else.

Sadly, throughout that time, despite playing varied lottery games, I never won a single ticket. But fortunately, I got to understand the situation within 6 months and fought it so well. Leaving the vicinity I was then also helped me but I had won the addiction even months before then. Just like any other casino games, the lottery games will always enrich the house and not you, so it is left to you to understand this instead for you to get addicted to it. Fine, some people are winning too, and I have seen many of them, but in all, we should try to use our senses not to be addicted to it. We must play with the amount that is little and that can't affect us and also endeavour to manage our gambling activities in the most responsible way.
942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever done something crazy to bet? on: March 24, 2024, 01:15:57 PM
The only form of gambling I did when I was a kid wasn't of monetary kind. It was more of bragging rights that's why I don't classify it as gambling. My parents wouldn't allow for such so I know better than to get indulged in such activities. It was only till a few years ago, say the last decade that I got involved.  It was not a case of wrong place, wrong time  but it was well worth it because that's when I learnt what taking risks felt like. Risk taking is vital when it's not irrational because scared money makes no money.

That said, you should stop beating yourself up about it. One way or another, you would've still been exposed to gambling.

No parents will allow their kids to indulge in gambling. I was exposed to gambling very early in life because of the kind of friends I had then. I started it as fun and soon it became part of me and I was gambling the wrong way and wrong time. I started lying to my parents just so I could get money to gamble. This affected my academic performance and soon my parents started asking questions to know the reason for the decline in my academic performance and so the teachers and my elder brother began to monitor my activities in school. This made me stop because I can't stand the anger of my parents.
What a story! I am glad that you are now an adult and you can be smarter when you are parenting your children. It will be easier since nothing children can do now that we've not probably done during our time. Though we are not proud of most, nevertheless, the experience is there, and in my case, it made me wiser and smarter. We all have our stories, and for mine, mostly, it is my friends that did those rubbish things, I could only be informed of some and fully aware of the others in most cases, but I do not follow suit. I always have this conscience then, so I try as much as possible to stay away from trouble, especially those things that are only worthy to be done by adults.

However, the thing I knew I did worst was when I was an adult and it was my sole decision. It wasted so much money even as I lied to my parents to collect huge amounts of money to achieve it, but it never affected my academics, and that was trading. Mehn, I wasted enough money in trading to the point that when I flashback, I regret my action. Nevertheless, it is now a mixed feeling because I have made way more in trading now. And if I did not follow that dangerous path then, I would not be calling trading as one of my income sources today. For this, mine is still positively impactful.
943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does pragmatic play bonus buy really worth it? on: March 24, 2024, 12:58:30 PM
I always advise gamblers to be smarter in gambling and choose their game options cleverly. There are some games that are not just wired in your favour unless you are merely lucky and there is no amount of skills you have or how you try to manoeuvre things that would change anything here. The Pragmatic Play game is a simple example of this and it is a game working on its special algorithm that is being commercialized for the money.

Now, if it is such that is not delivering well like most other casino games in helping the house gain more and the player gain less, do you think it will be getting much patronage? And this will become a loss for the programmers eventually. So we should not expect any casino games to be blessers as such but a means you lose more, however when you are lucky, you get to be happy due to food fate at the time, but this will not be common. Also, for the limited winning, it is another issue on its own, and no amount of bonus can take that way.
944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: March 24, 2024, 08:14:27 AM
A person addicted to gambling never takes good advice, no matter how much advice is given. I see there is a gambler in my area who stays indoors all day and rarely comes out, so people call him a gambler. He is so addicted to gambling that if he does not gamble every day he may never fulfill his sake, if he is given good advice he never takes the advice of others. Although he is currently in a long period of time, he is still gambling and losing and rarely winning, indicating that he is completely addicted to gambling. So I think if a player becomes addicted to gambling, then he is a loss to a family and society. If a gambler lives in a family, the family slowly goes to ruin because the gambler never thinks about anything good but only about gambling. So if you give good advice to your friend because of this problem, if he doesn't take it then he is going to suffer hugely in future. So it is very difficult to get a gambler back, but if he can be constantly surrounded by friends, he may be able to reduce the addiction a little and get on the right track.
Yeah who addicted on gambling there beehives like crazy. They are never ready to listen to anyone's advice. They find gambling very easy and always think that they will win huge jackpots from gambling and become rich with that money. And when they lose in gambling, they don't care about it because they think that this loss will be recovered later and besides, they can profit a lot when they win the big jackpot.  With such a plan, they don't hesitate to take decisions like gambling on loans or selling their homes
When you are gambling, you have to preserve your sanity, or else, you might find yourself where you least expected. If not always careful, you might be under the influence of it and get addicted and this addiction is more tempting than we believe. This is the worst part of it, and as long as a gambler is addicted, there is nothing the gambler can do rightly. Such will be at the mercy of luck and addiction, which is supposed not to be so. Gamblers should be active and gamble with all their consciousness, that's the only way such gamblers will be able to achieve their aim amidst other challenges in gambling.

But many things could cause the addiction and it doesn't necessarily mean it has to be for the money. Many might also be addicted to it due to the regular fun derived from it, and either way, it is not good because what you can't control will surely control you. And in gambling, if one is controlled by it, I am certain that the result can never be good. However, if it has reached the level of taking a loan to gamble, then the person is so crazy and needs fast help before he can overcome it. Gambling is not an investment so why secure a loan to bet what is risky as such, and that can make you lose so fast? This is even as the probability of losing all the money is higher than gaining, it is not just worth it to be desperate for gambling or let yourself get addicted.
945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Recovering gambling addict stories on: March 24, 2024, 07:00:01 AM
A gambler can control himself because he's gambling with his money. Absolutely correct every one can be addicted to gamble, it doesn't matter your financial status, even if you don't have money or your fucking rich you can also be addicted when you don't gamble responsibily.
Someone without a job and side hustle can easily become addicted I think so, the reasons why gamblers takes gamble as a side hustle is because the ones they are doing is not giving them a good profit (good salary) and they have to find another alternative to make more money. Truth be told that gamble is not a good area to make money, and gamblers that uses gamble as a side hustle gets addict easily.
In many poor areas, many people want to get rich and move to another place or country to start a new life there. But parents cannot give money to their children, because they cannot save anything, and there is no factory or enterprise around that could do this work. That is why in such areas they find the game as something that will allow them to get rich. They believe in the best, because the desire is very great and then the mind stops even allowing for the moment that it is possible to lose, the brain simply blocks such an option. And when a loss occurs, then the realization of what happened comes, and maybe not the first time.

This is a proper example of someone that doesn't have a good plans, as a grown man/women that has a responsibility you should always remember to save for your families because that's your main priority is to prove  the family needs and you should also save money for the raining days.
Like I have said earlier, gamble is not a wise choice of making money you can work on another alternatives and you shouldn't gamble everyday because if you are gambling everyday you be addicted. Although someone that has another ways of making money can not think gambling is another way of making money.
When they lose what they can not afford to lose that's the money they realize gamble is not a child's play thing.
The fact that you can earn money by gambling on a regular basis is a myth, and the most important thing here is that even many adults want to believe in it. Thus, they escape into the reality they created, but this is all an illusion. They begin to understand this when they reach the bottom, but no one is to blame for this except them. Of course, men must set the right priorities in their lives, and there cannot be a higher priority than family, at least for me. And gambling is something that can lead a morally weak and dependent person astray from the right path. Although I admit, sometimes I had thoughts of giving up everything and putting all my money on a bet that would change my life for the better. But here you should always remember that a worse outcome is possible, which few people think about when they enter the game.
What I can conclude here is that we should get prepared for the worst as gamblers, we should know that gambling is risky and no one can ever have it all no matter how good and lucky they are doing it. Fine, some aspects of gambling are better blesser than other aspects. Take for instance, I do have my consistent winning which is against your view about sports betting, which makes me believe that the aspects and options we opt for matter too in terms of the risks, and we can't entirely say that we can't achieve our aim in gambling. However, the sacrifice here is that since I opt for the low-risk kind of option, the money I make is also little. But it is fine because it is better to win little that is consistent than to gain high in an inconsistent manner. This inconsistency could even put the gambler in trouble if care is not taken and cause the ruin of his gambling account.

Above all, let us continue to bet smartly, and the best way to do this is to know the best aspect of gambling that has the money and also the minimal risk possible. Even with that minimal risk, we should still get set for the best managerial approach that will make it even less bitting if we ever lose through it. Doing these can make us better gamblers, but due to greed, people often shun them. I can still count many people I informed about my gambling approach but due to the low money being gained from it, they often shun it and opt for the risky ones that would deliver to them higher money. The end has always been regretful for them since the higher risks make them fail. But still, they do not change as they believe that gaining huge at once is better than the consistent winning approach. This is in fact a poor mindset towards gambling and I wonder how they can ever be successful gamblers by shunning a safer approach to it.
946  Other / Off-topic / Re: Dont chase your loss on: March 24, 2024, 06:32:17 AM
The thrill of winning and losing drives you, and your emotions run wild. You lose control when riding waves. The trouble is the game has you. The key is control, which is harder than it seems. Trying to win? It traps. Satisfaction never comes. That hamster wheel awaits you regardless of your outcome. The real win is playing on your terms, not the other way around

The true battleground is self-control and awareness. Understand your emotions and use them as a tool instead of letting them control you. What about gambling for fun? That's key. Enjoy, but maintain control. Maintain your composure, set sensible stakes, and never gamble to chase losses or earn a big payout. If it happens, you're losing. The crazy part is when you're having fun? You ironically make better choices and things work out better
Indeed, the key is self-control, because with good self-control everything will be fine, including the gambling you do. If gambling is done with good self-control then there will be no emotions that will destroy the gambling being done, because if gambling is done with emotions then what will happen is chaos with rash actions. There have been many bad incidents with gambling done because of overflowing emotions. In my opinion, it's not just gambling, it's the same with other things, if we do it when we're emotional then what's likely to happen is chaos.
It's true that we have to be able to maintain self-control, but I believe controlling emotions is difficult, especially when the results of the gambling are not good, and if the gambler cannot accept that then emotions will control everything. then losses and other bad impacts can no longer be avoided. So it is important to control yourself and control your emotions properly when gambling.
Your points are good, but the part you mentioned that controlling emotion is difficult is the part I do not so much agree with. What you admit is difficult is what will be difficult for you, and what you agree is easy is what will be easy for you. Even if it is not easy, your dedicated effort can still prevail to your advantage. The reason why I emphasized on that is that the problem most gamblers are facing in this regard is due to their unwilling nature to fight as they ought to, they relax too much and give up so quickly, but these are not helpful to gamblers. The more we entertain our weakness, the more it bites and becomes an issue for us. The weakness of most gamblers is emotional and not the lack of luck or skills to gamble, and even if they planned best, emotion will still strike. This emotion of a thing is psychological and has to be handled psychologically and with strong determination and not the handling of levity.

This is possibly going to work if the gambler has a strong Will and Mind to fight and put things in the right state in their minds and also make sure that their plans are worked out as they should, which entails the control of our minds. Who says we can't control it? Once we are disciplined and determined at the said time, before we know it, we will see it done easily as if it was our daily doing that demands not much stress or effort on our part. But the moment we see it as difficult, the more it becomes difficult which is what most gamblers are suffering from. It depends on what you feed the mind.
947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can bring positivity and light into people's lives on: March 24, 2024, 06:04:55 AM
I can see that you only talked about the positive side of gambling, and if I must say, you are even elaborating on this unnecessarily just to buttress your point about gambling. As this might be true, we should not get carried away by it as it is not particularly the case, there are dangers and anger too, so we should not get carried away by this. I mean we should understand the bad side, and tempting and addictive side of gambling so that we can balance the two together. Now, in balancing the two, I can only say that gambling is good only if we are sensible and smart towards it, otherwise, it will certainly be bad overall because it is not so easy.

Even for those who are sensible and smart with it, they are still facing a whole lot of challenges that make gambling so dangerous for them and it all depends on how best we are dealing with the situation in the sense of managing gambling and ourselves which matters most in my opinion. It can't just be as easy as the positive side looks, which is why I would rather implore people to think more of the challenges and not believe that gambling is so advantageous the way the OP states it. Such could cause people not to get more prepared towards the negative side of it which is what causes people to often fail woefully in it believing it is easy and a way to make money.
948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between Betting Exchanges and Sportsbooks Which has a Profit Potential? on: March 23, 2024, 06:30:33 PM
How does betting exchange work exactly? I learned that it is different from a sports book. I have looked through the gambling board I am yet to see anything like that. Between a betting exchange and a sportsbook, which of them guarantees that I will make a higher profit after a stake of no more than 3% of my bank which is my maximum risk?
You know, people are thinking and introducing more gambling innovations and applying the features in real gambling experiences. This is what conceived the gambling exchange and it is not so much different for the gamblers's experience in terms of the outcome in my opinion, but for the house. I've not also used it personally like other people who had replied to this thread, and this is to show how new and unpopular this pattern of gambling is. If you try it, you might be experimenting as this unpopular style of gambling will still no doubt be at its experimental stage. Maybe it is for better transparency by the house because it relieves them much risk but would force them to gain from commission from the cross-betting arrangement in the former of brokering gambling betting options among the better on their platform. But there will always be left over which I believe the house will absolve as risk and will entirely gain from the loss of such betting. For this, they would have limited the risk in gambling handling and would be able to pay their customers easily.

But they can't be rich as the gambling arrangement in which the house takes it all when the bettor loses his money. I do not know how this entirely works for the house in terms of making their money, nevertheless, what I explained is what I can guess so far. However, about how helpful it could be to gamblers compared to the traditional way, I think that it is not better helpful as your winnings/losses are your winnings/losses whether it is with an exchange arrangement or the traditional way. You can always bet against the odds in the two and go home with the money made from them or forget the losses to another party. Now, the main focus is for the casino to be trustworthy to give you your earnings because this is a new development in the gambling industry, so finding the right casinos that will not dupe you might be another challenging task compared to the traditional way that is already well-established with a lot of beautiful options you can choose from.
949  Other / Off-topic / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: March 23, 2024, 06:02:56 PM
I know very well that I don't have good luck in gambling. As long as I've bet my last cash I've lost most of those bets.

The pressure is high when you are down to your last bet, that's why most of us losses because we want to get back immediately so we lose our discipline. However, if we will just follow the proper bankroll management, there's a chance that we will be able to recover because in gambling, losing streak and winning streak are just normal, and we should always be ready when that time comes.
No one knows it all in gambling which is the more reason why we should be careful. We need to weigh our risks very well and not be gambling blindly or under emotion and desperation, just because we need the money. Just like GigaBit expressed, he believes that he is not always lucky in gambling, but that may not be particularly true, and this goes for everyone in the casinos' branch of gambling, and that is why we should not be wagering there when we do not have enough money or need money, casino games are mostly wired against us and this may make us think that luck is far from us, but it is not true.

This is applied to everyone as well due to the casino's algorithm we are playing against. But for sports betting, if one is careful and analyzes it well, the chance of winning is better, so it depends on our gambling options and how good we are at speculating on the right options to bet. For this, I am of the opinion that no one has that bad luck in gambling, only that the right time has not been reached due to the system they are playing against. Also, we should avoid betting under pressure, this will only aggravate the bad decisions and feelings towards gambling because we will gamble under emotion and that will never be helpful unless we are merely lucky at that time.
950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not place to make money is place to lose it? on: March 23, 2024, 05:31:44 PM
Is this true gambling is not place to make money is place to lose it?
The answer to your question is certainly not far-fetched because it is obvious. Gambling outcomes are two, it is either you lose money or gain money, so anyone who says that gambling is the place where you only lose is lying, and the same thing goes for anyone who says emphatically that gambling is the place to make money. The benefits and the risks of gambling must be weighed effectively and the money to be made in gambling is not an easy money like most think. The same thing goes for the money to be lost, it is not automatic, it depends on your luck and expertise of the gambler, and when you predict wrongly, you lose, but if you predict rightly, you gain, it is as simple as that.

But as a better gambler, what you can use to outsmart the situation is your proper skills and management, you do not gamble anyhow and you make sure that you are carefully managing your gambling portfolio to avoid issues. If not, the result will always be ugly. One must also ensure that he is not addicted to gambling or gambling desperately for the money, or else, the losses will be far more than the winnings, and guess what, this ruins the account of the gambler even faster.
951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stop gambling if you don’t have free time to do it on: March 23, 2024, 05:10:43 PM
We are expected to gamble t our free and leisure time, we should not introduce gambling at the official business hour because we are expected to make the balance between the two, if we don't work for money, how are we going to get the required fund needed for gambling that we want to do, we must learn to do things the proper way, in such a way that no any aspect of our life will be affected all because we are gambling.
Well, that's the best time to gamble when we are free, but that must not particularly be if we have that sparable time. Work varies, we can gamble at work if we are the type that works where activities are not much or at those places we have enough time that will not in any way affect us or the work. This depends on how meaningful that particular betting is to us and the time needed to make the bet before it is concluded late. Like me, I make sure that I work flexibly, so gambling at work is not an issue per se unless we do it senselessly and addictively. I just make sure to plan my time correctly so that I can have the right time to gamble, and that is it.

This doesn't affect the money to be made from the main work for any reason unless the person is doing it badly. However, gambling is not a must, we can hold on till the end of the working hour if we feel ill about our gambling habits. But for me, I do not leave any stone unturned, so I do not have that guilty conscience so long as I finish my work for the day, I am fulfilled.
952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: March 23, 2024, 04:51:00 PM
The amount of money you start with does not matter,as long as you have a good bankroll management and you know your limits. Obviously a rich person can afford to play higher stakes, take more risks, and win more money but at the same time he has much more to lose on the long term because he's got so much money. A poor gambler can only lose the amount of money he has, which is little and even if he ends up losing everything it won't affect him that much. If a rich person ends up losing everything to gambling, that would be a disaster for them and their life. Therefore, both rich and poor gamblers should be careful to gamble and risk only the money they can afford to lose.
I agree with everything said apart from the part where you are of the opinion that the winning of the poor are small so it will not affect him as much as the winning of the rich. This statement is not correct and should even be the other way round. The poor might be gambling with almost everything he has even though it will appear small and insignificant but the rich might be gambling with just a little part of his money even though that may appear big and can even be what the poor targets to win. I think losses affect the poor more than the rich, hence the poor should be very careful how much of their limited capital is put into gambling.
I would rather be neutral here because it depends on the rich and poor in question, we can not generalise it, and also the amount of money they wager matters here. The poor and rich discussion is always relative to a particular discuss, but some people often omit that fact believing when you are rich, you can't lose the riches if the care is not taken due to risks and mismanagement. It is not about the fact that the poor, for being poor will always wager all their money, No, or the rich because they are rich can wager any amount and not feel it, No. The two have their limits, there are amounts that the poor would wager many times and will not feel anything, and there are amounts that the rich will wager fewer times than the poor and feel it more, so it depends on the amount of money the two are wagering at that time.

More calculative and managerial poor gamblers are better at gambling, and the fact that they are poor doesn't mean that they are desperate to make money from gambling, it might just be a hobby or a means to try their luck for more money once in a while. With this, the poor will always be gambling responsibly and there's no way their gambling habits can attract insults or pains to them. But if the rich are not so careful, they will lose their guard and gamble irresponsibly despite having more money. This so-called "more money" of the rich has limits, and if not carefully spent, it will get to the point that it will hurt them severely.
953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football teams create a kind of community on: March 23, 2024, 03:37:10 PM
Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
If they took it too far, then they can only be termed foolish and nothing else as emotion is the cause of this. If we allow emotion to push us too far, then that can't be right in any sense. Such people can't just control themselves and they do not know they are idiots for doing that. Some people are so ardent in supporting some teams, so why not support the team maturely and let it be without any issues? But in supporting this team, they will be passing aggression, talking nonsense and provoking people for no warranting reasons. That is the most foolish part of it which is uncalled for and could cause a reaction from the other party they are using their idiocy to affect.

In the situation that it's the two of them who are flexing muscles simply because they are supporting a team, they are both foolish and lack maturity, everything should be moderated. We should respect each other and acknowledge that it is a mere sport. Letting unnecessary arguments pass is a very good approach here. But I have witnessed such annoying ones. The more you tell them to forget about the matter, the more they continue to argue, such vexes me sore if I must say.
954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling until you go totally broke on: March 23, 2024, 03:25:01 PM
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I am just wondering if anyone here have ever been in a similar situation before? That is, gambling until you are completely broke with nothing to fall back on?
No money in the bank, no cash in the hand, what did you do?

Or maybe gambled until you are one bet away from going broke (if you lose), do you go ahead and risk the money, or cancel the bet and  keep that money for something more important?
First, you did the right thing by borrowing him the $20, you just saved a brother from the mess, and since he has not found himself in that mess before, it is a very kind gesture you just extended to a fellow man. But if such repeats itself, you should not do that again so that he will feel it worse than the easy help he found.

As for your question, heck No, I have never placed a bet with any unaffordable money. I bet with a very low fraction of what I am worth which is the right way to go about betting. It will be easy for us to view betting as such that is not a means to guarantee our earnings but a risky means of getting money if possible. With this mindset, if one wants to gamble, such a person would think twice about gambling with an amount that would hurt him since it can come out with a win or a loss.

Gambling aside, it is just a senseless way of lifestyle for someone not to plan his life. One should know the money to spend, the money to save and so on. For someone to now misuse the opportunity he has and mispends for any reason is not what I entertained. And we should not pity them for any reason if they are adults. I know this is caused by a weak mind, nevertheless, it is not an excuse as one can train that weak mind to be strong, it depends on what we feed our minds most. It can only be the weak mind that would tell you to gamble all the money you have at a casino and start suffering and borrowing money up and down. If the mind is strong, the person will reject that temptation immediately. Living has to be well-planned, or else, we regret our actions.
955  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit locked/pending withdrawals on: March 23, 2024, 02:54:11 PM
Ive been a loyal Rollbit player for around +2years. I have wagered around 125k US dollars. I have never had any issues with withdrawals or deposits on the site. Yesterday I hit a big win (not going to lie it’s life changing) and now have to submit my KYC. Apperently Belgium has been added to the strict list recently. So I’m not able to submit my Belgian ID..

I never used a VPN and I always could log in and use the site without any problems. Some providers where restricted but i could use around 75% of the website.

I always loved Rollbit and the community around it, I’ve seen people with the same issues that got their withdrawal but after it their account got suspended, if that’s the only way i have to take it ofcourse..

Anyone had the same issue or knows a way to resolve this?

Please only friendly replies Smiley
Hello friend, I would like to talk majorly about the boldened word and sentence, and a few others having read some of what people had to say here. First, I believe that by the written "strict" in the first paragraph, you meant to say restrict. If that is the case, why did you still continue depositing and wagering with the casino that restricts your country or that your country restricts, whichever one it is?

Forget about the avoidance of VPN, they know, but turn a blind eye to it until the time for you to smile. This is absolutely your fault but it saddens me for people to be learning in this bitter way. See, these casinos do not care about you but your money, this is why they might be fully aware that you are using a Belgium IP and do not care about it since you are sending in money and majorly losing the money, so you are enriching them. But when it comes to the time of your big win and you file for withdrawal, the story changes. This is just a way to outsmart you guys but it's unfortunate that you always fell cheaply to it.

As it is now, you are just at their mercy, I wish you good luck. Mind you, the fact that some casinos still allow for 75% of service usage is still nonsense, it might be meant to lure you guys, and when you need the withdrawal, the story will change. Just be wise next time. Any website that does not allow you or your country 100% rights should be avoided immediately, it's not just worth it to be at the mercy of any company even with the risk you've taken on your money.

So what you’re saying is they allow me to deposit and play form a restricted country (Belgian IP) is no problem for them. But if I’m breaking their ToS like some of you say, aren’t they also breaking a law? They allow ME to deposit and play form a strict country. So they’re taking  funds from a country they restricted and are aware of it because of the geo blocks. Isn’t that illegal for them to accept those funds? Because if it is then they have to repay all my deposits (- my withdraws).

Just to clarify to some of you. I wasn’t of knowledge that Belgium was stricted like some of you claim! I’ll say it again: I made my account before the restriction, after the restriction nothing changed for me on the website itself. Withdrawals/deposits/rakeback/games/… everything was the same.

Also, want to thank everyone here for their replies and help!
Not at all, friend. I must say that I also share in your pains because I hate seeing people in this kind of situation, this is a trick, and I hate cheating with passion. Of course, what Rollbit did, if it's true is blatant cheating in all interpretations, and this is not the only means by which casinos are cheating people which is so annoying to me. I was just saying you should have been smarter than this to avoid what you are facing now.

The casino can never tell me that they do not know a Belgium IP is being used to open an account, deposit and wager, not to talk of staying longer with them until the money was made. If they were sincere, they would have even restricted the IP in the first place. That's why they are guilty as well and I do not know the court of law you would sue them to that will take it lightly with them. I believe it's a matter of collecting money under a false pretence. But the issue is that people often do not have that kind of money to pursue such a vindictive quest. Perhaps, those who were able to collect their money in this situation as you hinted in the OP threatened them with a lawsuit. If the money is worth it, you may also consider it.

Good luck!
956  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casino vs. Stoc,Forex&Crypto Broker: Who's Really Playing You in the Money Game on: March 23, 2024, 10:08:02 AM
We may not have to compare all these together because some of them are not the same with each other, gambling most especially is a different form of getting entertained with fun and others are more about making an investment or business while the brokers are the intermediaries between brokers, all we need to know is what constitutes whatever thing we are going in for,when we have the understanding, we will not be cheated and we are going to be at the top of having it's best satisfaction.
You are trying to establish a meaningful point but you never concluded it well and no matter what we think about gambling and business, they are certainly not the same thing. Let me start with your points and twist them a little bit for more understanding.

If you look at it from the view that gambling could be done for the purpose of fun/entertainment and money making, can trading be done for the purpose of fun? The answer is No because trading is for the purpose of investment and business. That's the first point to know that they are not the same thing. But for the money-making part of gambling that people often mistake for trading, is gambling about buying and selling like trading? Certainly No too. Trading is all about buying and selling which makes it business.

But gambling is betting and certainly not a business where two or more parties will be transacting in a market that establishes its own demands and supplies. Where is the demand and supply in gambling? It is pure betting and will never be trading/business. The fact that both are risky doesn't make them the same thing.
957  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw on: March 23, 2024, 09:45:11 AM
My comment was relied to a user who has said that we should not worry about KYC. If he is so brave to share private data, then why not demonstrate bravery? Personally, I would not share KYC, not on the forum, not to casino. Maybe reputed exchange would be and exception. With the fact that online casino licenses dont cost much, and it isnt costly to open a new casino (compared to exchange), I would avoid giving casinos to much info about myself.
If you can't rely on and trust then there is no reason to share your KYC. But I doubt there is doubt there is a good number of casinos that don't require KYC documents. I am aware of the leakage of KYC documents but I do not think it will affect us too much as our documents can be leaked in various ways out of gambling sites.
And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

As long as I am not a criminal, I do my KYC and it has ever been fine to date. Come to think of it, in this present day, you can't function a bank account without completing the KYC, so how many people are now the victims of such KYC completion and because of it will stop using their bank, or will still not complete another KYC upon opening another bank account? We should all pray that we are not victims of organized crimes, but if anyone is, whether you do KYC or not, your information will be revealed and the perpetrators will strike.

The only downside here is data leaks, and this is happening everywhere, even with the most secure facilities. As long as it is human beings and the computer that are involved in the sorting and for the safekeeping, it can leak. Even with data leaks, I only get prepared for those who I do not know but would contact me. They can't get any useful information from me, which is the angle the data leak is so dangerous for random people whose data are leaked.
958  Economy / Gambling / Re: Share trusted VPN Friendly crypto casinos on: March 23, 2024, 09:23:21 AM
I'm not sure about that, sometimes third party providers are blocking locations with no reason while the casino using them allow people from this location to fully register and play there, that's boring and unfair for those customers, so using VPNs let them circumvent those illegitimate restrictions from faddy providers. I'm not aware of a reputed casino having banned or even warned a customer doing that.
I have to disagree. Casinos have to comply with their game providers' own terms and have to enforce those terms on their customers.
If a game provider prohibits players from a certain country from playing some of their games then using a VPN to circumvent this restriction is automatically a breach of the casino's rules and you may get banned because of it.
If you read casinos ToS, you will see that they state which countries are prohibited from using all their services alongside with countries prohibited from playing certain games according to game providers terms.
I have seen cases of such restrictions and banned happening and some of them is really crazy because the user actually have won some significant amount of money and only to be restricted of their withdrawal because the casino found out that the user is violating the TOS of the casino so it's definitely not advisable at all to try it but although not all casino are against the use of VPN although I don't know about the particular location in which the VPN user might use that allows them free access to the casino without being punished.
Using a gambling site using VPN is very risky because in this case the account can be restricted at any time by the casino authority because vpn is never allowed in the casino TOS. They ban certain countries for their sites because they don't want gamblers from those countries. or the laws of that country have completely banned gambling, so how can gambling sites evict gamblers from those countries? so using vpn for gambling is not any smart thinking
Like the post I just replied to, you do not joke with the ban or restriction by either the casino or your country's government, you should flee immediately no matter how enticing the casino is to you. If you did not, then you might face the music in a very bitter way. It detests me when people are foolishly enriching casinos even when they (customers) are at fault or they are not just smart enough. You can imagine someone who reads/knows clearly that a country is not allowing a country, but still carelessly use the IP of the country through VPN. What does the person attract in that sense? That can't be good of course. So no matter the case, one has to follow the rules and obey the laws of both the country he residents in and that of the casinos to avoid issues. VPN is never by force either, I don't know why it is a must for some people.

Although some would claim they want to stay private on the internet, fine, it is your right, but what if the casino does not want it? All these have to be ensured before signing for any casino to avoid issues. Even if the country is allowed, one must still be very careful in using a VPN. They might believe that since the IP is such of the allowed countries, what if the casino detected a VPN eventually? Good, it is not all VPNs that can be detected, but in most cases, when such a person is dynamic about the use of the IPs of countries in a lesser period of time, that can easily put him in trouble if VPN is not allowed by the casinos and no one is without a mistake if you think you can outsmart that because you use strong VPN of the allowed country.

Regardless, I still love the companies that would rather stop their service to the person but return his money to him than steal it as most casinos shamelessly do.
959  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Rollbit locked/pending withdrawals on: March 23, 2024, 09:03:33 AM
Ive been a loyal Rollbit player for around +2years. I have wagered around 125k US dollars. I have never had any issues with withdrawals or deposits on the site. Yesterday I hit a big win (not going to lie it’s life changing) and now have to submit my KYC. Apperently Belgium has been added to the strict list recently. So I’m not able to submit my Belgian ID..

I never used a VPN and I always could log in and use the site without any problems. Some providers where restricted but i could use around 75% of the website.

I always loved Rollbit and the community around it, I’ve seen people with the same issues that got their withdrawal but after it their account got suspended, if that’s the only way i have to take it ofcourse..

Anyone had the same issue or knows a way to resolve this?

Please only friendly replies Smiley
Hello friend, I would like to talk majorly about the boldened word and sentence, and a few others having read some of what people had to say here. First, I believe that by the written "strict" in the first paragraph, you meant to say restrict. If that is the case, why did you still continue depositing and wagering with the casino that restricts your country or that your country restricts, whichever one it is?

Forget about the avoidance of VPN, they know, but turn a blind eye to it until the time for you to smile. This is absolutely your fault but it saddens me for people to be learning in this bitter way. See, these casinos do not care about you but your money, this is why they might be fully aware that you are using a Belgium IP and do not care about it since you are sending in money and majorly losing the money, so you are enriching them. But when it comes to the time of your big win and you file for withdrawal, the story changes. This is just a way to outsmart you guys but it's unfortunate that you always fell cheaply to it.

As it is now, you are just at their mercy, I wish you good luck. Mind you, the fact that some casinos still allow for 75% of service usage is still nonsense, it might be meant to lure you guys, and when you need the withdrawal, the story will change. Just be wise next time. Any website that does not allow you or your country 100% rights should be avoided immediately, it's not just worth it to be at the mercy of any company even with the risk you've taken on your money.
960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A personal view on: March 22, 2024, 05:00:11 PM
This is the continuation of the answers in twos as I mentioned earlier.

👉how do you feel when peopel ask you for money to gamble?, do you gamble with debt?  Or would you never indulge in such no matter how sure you are about the game ?
This is an idiocy of the highest order, it is bad and unspeakable for some to borrow money to gamble or beg money from people to gamble. Well, the purpose of asking for money from people is not often known, so I may not know if a person asked for money from me and later went to gamble with it. But if such a person dared to ask me for the money and also told me the reason for asking for the money, which was to gamble, then I would not give the person.

If you want to gamble, go and work for the money, it is not my money you would waste on such a quest. If I give anyone money, I do that due to my kind gesture but it is no longer a kind gesture if the money is used for some kind of betting which I view as ugly in that sense. One has to reasonably gamble only with the money they can afford to lose which also is the money they worked for, and not mine. He should bet with his money to make him know how it feels to waste one's sweat.

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👉Do you set rules or limits on how much you stake per week to control your addiction or you are disciplinedenough to know when to stop?
Of course, I do. I know my limits in casinos and sports betting and this has always helped me to manage myself and my gambling portfolio properly. No one can prevail in gambling without the limit set and the right management calculations, such a person will entirely only be gambling anyhow and the results can never be encouraging.
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