10am in Japan, wire xfers have time to be processed, wall goes away, market goes BOING! IMHO Loaded is conditioning us for when he needs to sell...
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It's real. I actually got invited to be in on this group... But I have 0 BTC, so yeah.
LOL... make a fake group, send out invites... schedule a crash... sell... place low bids... flash crash.... profit!!!
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Mtgox really needs to do something. Either lower their fees or fix their server, or preferably both
Upping their fees to 2% would help with the lags more than lowering them... a volume per bid/offer discount and small bid/offer volume penalty would do a much better job Oh yeah, a fixed fee per new order! That's the way to go.. If the lag is because of an influx of new orders, how about a fee I believe he means a fixed fee for the .01 dust orders. I'm not sure what purpose the .01 trades are for, any guesses? Same fee for everybody! Legit traders couldn't care less about .01 fee.. The purpose of dust is to obfuscate the sight. Maybe not a hard limit... just have dust orders pay a higher %. High volume orders pay lower %. This would be to encourage order consolidation and stop people from putting 1000 tiny orders in front of their own wall to give their bot time to move it when approached. But at the same time a lucrative dust bot could still operate.
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Almost certainly a joke, but actually BULLISH if real... because their self-admitted MO is to cause the flash crashes & then buy back. Not to pump...
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Mtgox really needs to do something. Either lower their fees or fix their server, or preferably both
Upping their fees to 2% would help with the lags more than lowering them... a volume per bid/offer discount and small bid/offer volume penalty would do a much better job
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From the looks of it, this wall was half-bought, half-pulled.
Nope, every coin was bought. You're right, I missed the 2k order. Damn you MtGox for your engine lag! We need to create a P2P network that reposts the gox stream...
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The person putting the 5k wall at 73.01 is pissing me off.
I'm giving it 3 hours before I buy out the whole thing just to watch him frantically try to buy it all back.
Glad I'm not the only one,who places limits on rally days? Cheers! It may be a risk reduction strategy between a client and broker for example. when client says sell (or buy) above/below XXX that is what you do not really caring about the extra little bit; you'd rather move the volume above below the limit specified. PS: ALL TIME HIGH!!! not yet... If I meant NEW ATH I would have said NEW
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The person putting the 5k wall at 73.01 is pissing me off.
I'm giving it 3 hours before I buy out the whole thing just to watch him frantically try to buy it all back.
Glad I'm not the only one,who places limits on rally days? Cheers! It may be a risk reduction strategy between a client and broker for example. when client says sell (or buy) above/below XXX that is what you do not really caring about the extra little bit; you'd rather move the volume above below the limit specified. PS: ALL TIME HIGH!!!
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I think mBTC and uBTC are here to stay because a lot of consensus has appeared around them. But how about using the acronyms MBC and UBC, to keep them the as standard 3 letter acronyms?
Why? There likely will be a psychological dampening effect if people think of buying a thousandth or millionth of something... these acronyms start the process of thinking of MBC as a unit in itself. Especially if a few vowels could be thrown in there make something pronounceable -- "Mibic" for example. This should emerge naturally but it would be better if it was guided so it did not sound diminutive. "Mibbies" would be bad for example because it sounds to me like some kind of plastic toy coin used in tiddily-winks
For newbies: no name that even refers to a colloquial name for USD should be used to ensure that there is no possible probable cause to create a (trumped up) counterfeiting case. There's lots of discussion on this, search around.
casascius: Doesn't work for me or a lot of other ppl I think. Because the "internet" already IS something. You'd have better luck with something like intercoin or netcoin I think... but unfortunately all those (and everything without bitcoin in it) sounds more like an alt-coin to today's ears.
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looks like quite a bit of fiat left mt gox before the coinlabs transition... if coinlabs goes smoothly, this thing may really pop :-)
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Anyone else got screwed?
Buy at 70 with $1400 > Instantly crashes to 62 Raises back to 68 > Go to bed Wake up 5 minutes after it has crashed to 55 > Sell at 56 Raises to 64
Quite the experience for a first time trader. Now I have to leave for a few hours, not sure whether to buy in or not.
Krabby, there are lots of pros in bitcoin; its an esoteric area with lots of econ ppl and traders. Don't try to beat ppl who do it 40hrs a week. Or plan to lose $. Best strategy for an amateur in a security with strong fundamentals. Buy on the dips and hold... hold hold! Hold no matter what! :-)
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Sphincter tearing dump got pwned, that's got to hurt Was worried there could be a panic over the weekend but it looks more like 'great, gimmie cheap coins'. been that way for months. which made me so surprised how deep this one went. cant understand why people dont learn. It didn't go deep. Look at the graph, it barely touched the top of the average trendline that has been set over the past few months, due to the massive upwards breakout that started on monday. This market is still driven buy buyers... http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg30zigHourlyztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
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Boys place your bids!!! Gox may not be responsive soon so you've gotta call the bottom NOW!
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Third: That the general population should care how and whether a bank saves itself. Instead the stakeholders of the bank should be the ones voting on a deposit reduction, chapter 11 or other options.
Problem is the top two banks' stocks are only worth 500M so where to find the 10000M they need? Let the banks go bankrupt and everybody will loose more than 10%. Yes, of course, if by "everybody" you meant depositors. So this is the stakeholder's (depositors, stock/bondholder's) decision, not the nation's. If by "everybody" you mean losses due to the general economic malaise... sometimes you must feel sick before you get better. I think economic "losses" are often massively overstated by those who have a great interest in keeping the status quo going. The region either never had it in the first place (market capitalizations that can't handle selling volume for example), or wealth was simply transferred from those who sold at the top to those who bought at the bottom.
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Anyone keeping up with this Cyprus mess?
It is getting pretty wild. Thanks for showing the world why we need Bitcoin.
Cypress is a searchlight illuminating the system. Fundamental assumptions that underlie the media's reporting show why the Euro is breaking down. First: The idea that if Cyprus "leaves" the Euro -- that is, if the government can't pay its bills in Euros -- then all of its banks depositor's money is magically transformed into "Cybucks". Second: That a government should be involved in negotiating a loan for a few banks. Third: That the general population should care how and whether a bank saves itself. Instead the stakeholders of the bank should be the ones voting on a deposit reduction, chapter 11 or other options. Bailouts keep "things" smooth and orderly. But unfortunately they do not cause the social transformation in power structure and methodology required to effect the internal changes required to protect the system from similar subsequent events. Bitcoin is that transformation. The only way for savers in the PIIGS nations to win is to refuse to play :-).
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for a week btc was 50$, yesterday 60, today 75, tomorow 90 ?? is this normal? Bitcoin needed 3 years to touch 20$ I want buy some coins, but i cant. I have fear For bitcoin, there is no normal. What we know is that the good news is flowing like so much mana from heaven and that more and more people are learning about it and, thus, likely to start to use it. Its better than that; its a double whammy of good bitcoin news and bad central banking news...
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hahahaha this guy comparing it to farmville credits. FUCK man we have a long way to go before this is truly mainstream. "...no power to tax. Right, that in theory is the point of a currency, right?" A glimpse into the financial industry's mindset that created the Cyprus situation. Its not "over there", its everywhere. Note I don't disagree with reasonable taxation to support public services. But the POINT of a currency is not taxation... Edit: Holy Sh*t I glance away for 3 minutes to write this and the wall is destroyed!! 2013-03-21 11:52:27 to 2013-03-21 12:02:27: Avg price: 69.182 (68.600 to 70.000) Total volume: 8537.14760, Cumulative cost: 588560.00000 Buy volume: 8438.59687 (581775.47 USD), Sell volume: 98.55073 (6785.50 USD) Ratio: 85.62694 ( 85.74)
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Size of wall? Thanks
8k BTC so slowly going down. It real is good to calm this bull a bit but i want over 100 anyway. Yes, going down (but so are the bids) >>> btcstats.positionSummary(db,90*btcstats.Minutes,0,[0],[68.911,100]) 2013-03-21 10:10:22.847393: 3916 bids of 40533505 btc (7456004.00) above 0. 17 asks of 9224 btc (634929.00) below 68. 464 asks of 33716 btc (2686916.00) below 100. 2013-03-21 10:30:29.660514: 3904 bids of 40533341 btc (7446380.00) above 0. 17 asks of 9521 btc (655473.00) below 68. 463 asks of 34223 btc (2726097.00) below 100. 2013-03-21 10:50:39.402368: 3928 bids of 40532782 btc (7445549.00) above 0. 18 asks of 9789 btc (673944.00) below 68. 465 asks of 34390 btc (2736411.00) below 100. 2013-03-21 11:10:42.174014: 3941 bids of 40530908 btc (7412532.00) above 0. 2 asks of 8109 btc (558757.00) below 68. 448 asks of 32359 btc (2596895.00) below 100. 2013-03-21 11:30:50.480346: 3954 bids of 40528407 btc (7376291.00) above 0. 3 asks of 7657 btc (527472.00) below 68. 452 asks of 32000 btc (2571633.00) below 100.
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Essentially no fees. By looking into my logs, I can't tell if they add a txn fee for miners but if they do its bitdust.
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It must be difficult to write a quality article about Bitcoin without detailed understanding of it. As more coins are generated, these problems get ever more complex No they don't. The same code is used, but the difficulty increases, it gets harder to find a fitting checksum that is sought for a number of leading zero numbers in a hash. These are necessary technical details to avoid people writing articles which may be strongly misleading. Nope! Do more research & try again! Hint: the difficulty changes to create a constant average block creation rate as more (or less) transaction processing capacity (aka mining) comes online.
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