if the government provides a regulation for btc and provides legal for btc, then the tax will be required. but if not, it will not pay taxes. all will depend on government decisions.
Agree, I think we know that we live in a country that has rules that must be followed. if bitcoin or crypto is legalized, of course there is a payback to the government, maybe the tax will be applied afterwards, and we as law-abiding citizens must follow it - Following the rules and regulations from the government is a sure thing but the government needs to prove the benefits they can provide us in crypto and bitcoin, they can not just propose rules and do not give us any benefits then force us to follow, that will be an unfair thing. I believe everyone here can understand and agree with my point of view, before we pay taxes to the government, government needs to ensure our rights and safety, they should even say their management plans for bitcoin trading, if they do not bring certain benefits, I will be the first to oppose taxes If government propose to collect taxes from cryptocurrency trading, government must be propose benefits for cryptocurrency holder. With regulation, crypto holder more confident and it will attracting new investor right. of course, before there is a government regulation, it has not been able to determine the tax regulation for cryptocurrency directly. I think the existence of regulation will actually have a positive impact on the development of crypto. because it can foster consumer confidence in illegal activities |
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Honestly speaking I noticed that there are more ICOs developed their own exchange. Maybe they saw something better than listed their tokens in different exchange. I also think the exchange sites now is the market trend. I guess there is something good is going to happen in the future.
developers teams see huge opportunity if they developt their own crypto exchanges.day by day cryptocurrency investors growth smoothly and much new investors joined in crypto trading.they see this is as good opportunity to earn money if they developt their own exchanges. of course this is inseparable from the opportunities of growing cryptocurrency users. therefore many projects are based on exchanges. I think this is good for healthy competition, with more and more exchanges, consumers can choose the exchange that suits them best, with good service I think they can compete with the old exchange |
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I got a lot after I got to know Bitcoin since 2017, because I got a big profit and was able to buy something from Bitcoin, so with Bitcoin everything can be realized. But all of that was created with permission from God.
me too, even I also bought a used car in this case. even though it's not much, but it's a pretty good achievement for me. at the moment I'm still trying to get more profits, and I'm grateful to be able to enter the bitcoin zone. at least for those who join bitcoin starting from the beginning of 2017, have many stories about material achievements from the results of working on btc. including me, at that time I was able to buy gold for my parents, and that made me feel satisfied. I hope the glory of 2017 can happen again as soon as possible |
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Well, There are so many factors in bitcoin that proves that it can't be just that. What I mean is the value of it will increase no matter what happens. The value of bitcoin are just decreasing because of the bear market of the year of 2018. We are hoping for some kind of bull run this year. Hope that it will be sooner than we expected  2018 effect still going on market now, and its make pressure to cryptocurrency community and investors.we should ended it if we want investors stay in this market.they worry if price continues down again. for the near future, hopefully after Chinese New Year we can see bitcoin rising, followed by other coins. indeed, during 2018 the market put psychological pressure on investors, and hopefully it will soon pass so that we can see the price development again. and hopefully ETF and Bakkt will be held soon |
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Will be at the middle year bitcoin will get back at higher price, almost at last year bitcoin always lower and dump price, we have waiting for long time to see bitcoin back above $10,000. Hope will be ready for at new year bitcoin on the higher price.
indeed many say that starting in the middle of this year prices will start to rise, but I don't think that you are hoping so much that it will cause disappointment and disrupt your psychological condition. just keep focusing that the market will rise later, even though no one knows for sure when that will happen. so you are ready to invest long term |
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Many new coin have lower price after listing at exchange market, last month we got founder ICO from Indonesia Oscar Darmawan created lyfe ICO, but after listing at exchange market lyfe price is lower than ICO more than half, its why I can't trust with ico now.
Well, you should not blame the ICO Founder about that, you should know better as an investor. There are a lot of promising coins in the past that arrive at the same fate after the ICO. A lot of people are disappointed since a lot of bounty hunters are selling their share at lower price so the tendency is the price will fall down as people will put their currency more lower than the other. We should not blame the project about what happened unless they have their own failed tasks as the ICO founder. on the other hand sometimes unsold tokens are not burned, so this causes prices to fall after listing on the exchange. I think that not all tokens always fall when entering the market, for example coutinghouse, where the price actually skyrocketed when others went down. therefore we as investors must be smart in choosing ico |
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I would never be surprised if Institutions HODL big amount of Bitcoins. As a wise man once said, "If you can't ruin/break it, then control it". Well, If institutions will not at least manipulate and HODL Bitcoins it would cost them much as well.
We can see that Bitcoin is a threat to a lot of business industries worldwide and every institution are alarmed about this. I think they are probably HODLS a big amount and bitcoin to control it at least.
with its decentralization, where demand and supply have the most influence on price movements, it is very possible for large companies to take a role by holding large amounts of bitcoin, and I agree with your thoughts, it is done so that it can control the movement of bitcoin. so as not to be toyed with by other people |
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Small inflation isn't a bad thing.Hyperinflation is always a bad thing.
Having an asset or currency with a price going down forces the people to get rid of that asset.This drives the economy growth.
Bitcoin is the opposite type of those assets.It's value is expected to increase,so that's why more people are motivated to HODL btc in the long term.
has a good future because currently bitcoin users are still minimal, so with increasing demand, it will certainly increase the price, so that bitcoin is currently not affected by the inflation that occurs. can we imagine that bitcoin users have reached 50% of the entire world population, of course prices have soared |
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Many unsold tokens are usually burned so as not to affect existing tokens, that's what I know. The supply must be in accordance with the request so it can run and have a price.
many good projects do that, by burning unsold tokens, of course, it will add to the quality of the project, so that investors will still be fully supportive. if the project does not do this, of course this will reduce the price of the token, so that investors seem to be harmed. but unfortunately not all projects do that, many even run away with investor funds |
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Just study and research well in this forum all you need to know about trading is here, but based on my own experience you really cannot learn it if you will not the one to do the trading. Just start will small amount because at the beginning you will lose some of your investment until you fully learn how it works.
that's true dude,we have to try all work in cryptocurrency such as trading , work on bounty campaign or even mining.so we will understand how this market work.if have no much money to start mining , we could try cloud mining. by trying various jobs in cryptocurrency, of course we will be able to choose which work is suitable for us. but indeed if you can do everything as you mentioned, then we have the opportunity to get more income. but indeed for all that requires a lot of time, so we must be able to divide time well, so that it requires high discipline |
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The presence of bear is still felt until now and bitcoin continues its decline. This will be the longest bear trend if the market will continue to down in the coming days. The hope for bullish market is still uncertain this year but I believe some coins can go up even bitcoin is going down. It is profitable for those in the daytrading than those who are holding their coins since last year when the downtrend begin.
I hope after Chinese New Year the price starts to improve, because every year before the Chinese New Year the price tends to decrease, so the price will soon arrive, so after that hopefully in 2019 the price will immediately rise again and exceed the previous highest price. maybe that will make trust in bitcoin recover |
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Investors are immune too much for this dramas which no surprise the market didn't dip that much what happen is opposite. We are pro decentralization but why are we so much affected by a centralized authority specially the US SEC decisions? On which there is no guarantee that upon approval the price will skyrocket again, I can feel the organic growth but due to manipulators its hard to achieve rewards during this season The answer to this question should be pretty obvious People are no so much pro-decentralization as they are pro-profit deep inside. In other words, they would easily exchange a little bit of decentralization for a little bit of profits. That's the reason why we care so much about SEC decisions as their attitude directly affects our profit potential, either way. Then again, you yourself talk about prices and rewards, not adoption and use, which is telling Gone are the days of pure bitcoin maximalist and underground anarchist saying f*** government and banking system. Now crypto has been overrun by businessman, wealthy elitist and wanted to make money out of thin air in this market. Bitcoin now is touted as the best investment platform, but totally forgot the original vision of Satoshi which is a P2P system without any 3rd party in the middle. That's why their attitude is really pushing for the approval of ETF's so that they will take advantage of the market once lots of noobs FOMO again That's my point exactly However, people who claim that they stick to their guns, i.e. to Satoshi's true vision, turn out to be even greater elitists and profit-oriented blokes wanting "to make money out of thin air in this market" than what you would expect from an average businessman, huh. In fact, it can be said that "pure bitcoin maximalists and underground anarchists" turned out to be not much better than the rest of the pack or maybe even worse if we consider their impact on Bitcoin's development these days I just realized, indeed the essence of this time is that people enter the world of cryptocurrency, to double their money. but they were wrong when at the beginning of 2018 prices fell and many lost their money. this year there are many people who only focus on the price of bitcoin to increase dramatically, of course this makes it different from the initial purpose of bitcoin |
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The future looks all promising, but only those few who can endure through the hard times, Crypto is facing a denial stage and everyone is being negative and all, but in the market will prevail.
I am agree. If we can survive in this bear market and keep our investment for long term, i am believe we will gain profits in near future. Long term is good option in cryptocurrency logically the development of cryptocurrency for the long term, and I think requires gradual development. to win it must indeed be resistant to market waves and have a strong analysis of the market going forward. so we don't give up halfway. nowadays many are frustrated, and I think it's wrong, because the journey is still far away |
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Last year saw many people predict BTC year-end prices, but nothing was validated with time. it is very difficult for BTC to reach predictable prices. Future price predictions fail to consider many factors and problems that may occur over time. Maybe, we can only estimate the value of assets for the next few days like weather experts.
There are only predictions that are becoming true because of luck. I do not believe to the predictions that I keep seeing all over the internet because those predictions are not reliable for us to use it. but in my opinion with predictions we have directions for trading or investment. without predictions, I guess like gambling, and I rarely do that. many expect to see the market according to their own volition, without seeing what will happen on the market. and finally they force themselves and wrong predictions |
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I don't think it spends time with crypto or bitcoin because I have a reason that bitcoin and other crypto currencies have not been fully recognized by the government and there is no guarantee of great security
You are not right mate because for me using bitcoin is best thing in my life because if we spend our time on bitcoin it help us to improve our investing skills at the same time if helps us to make money,,,, so for me it is blessing to have an opportunity to work with bitcoin and to spend my time with bitcoin it is full of benefit. bitcoin and cryptocurrency provide many opportunities for us.so if we spend most of our time into this market someday we will get worthed benefits.but for now on we have to more patient facing bearish condition ,all cryptocurrency price now drop alot.but someday its price will recovered.we have to be optimistic. we have to look from the other side, indeed currently the condition is bearish, but this is an opportunity to collect assets at a relatively cheap price. so that our assets will multiply in value, and we can retire at a young age without thinking about economic difficulties. besides that we can realize the business we desire |
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what I miss is when the price of all coins is stable, I miss it when I get a lot of profits, now I am very hard to get profits, I miss getting profits, hopefully all prices in the trading market are stable
this is our main target here. big profits, lots of money, all of our longing after 2018 we have to get good results. Hopefully after 2019 it will be a good start for increasing crypto prices, so our waiting has not been in vain. many are frustrated at the price available, but now it's an evolution for us to survive here |
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Gambling: bitstars, mbit, betcoin and others.
When calling gambling as an investment it seems wrong because profits are not proportional to the capital that comes out. The word investment has a different meaning . whether you buy , lend money onto something , etc ... That can still be considered as investing and the profit that you get does not really matter . small or big as long as you earn something then thats not bad at all . Now , crypto investment without withdrawal to fiat can also be possible . you can opt and choose to convert your cryptos into some stable coins like usdt ( tether ) , so that you can secure the value if ever you feel uncomfortable in the situation . right, with usdt received on all existing exchanges, the value remains stable, because volatile is not like cryptocurrency, and I think it will be more efficient than we withdraw in fiat form, of course this is related to the amount of fees. I think it is an effective way where our money can be directly used for reinvestment |
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for me, I will invest now, and I will last long with the price of krypto increasing, so we also have a lot of advantages by waiting for higher prices.
I think we can really have an advantage if we invest on crypto on this status of a huge dip. We can am see that the price of the crypto coin is still on a very huge dip. And that dip will maybe last long so we need to prepare our patience if we wanted to invest this time because I believe that the huge dip will sink to the bottom. right, buying will be better, especially when we have free money, so it doesn't interfere with our daily needs. with a relatively low price like now, then we will find it easier to make a profit. of course in investing must be balanced with a strong psychological, so that we remain focused on the targets that have been made |
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Oil and bitcoin has different market prices and they decided the growth of supply and demand. Oil has a great factor of demand and supply hence they are used on daily basis by everyone. In the cases of bitcoin we are almost there to be widely used by everyone as well, we just need more push for us so that the world will see on how bitcoin can change the financial payment system in the future.
I think so too, with market differences making both of them not related. but there is a country that is an oil producer, when oil prices fall, they experience a crisis so that their currencies become worthless, the solution is to replace fiat currency into cryptocurrency, it happens in Venezuela, but the way was taken because their fiat currency was worthless |
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Bitcoin is a valuable inheritance, everyone who holds a bitcoin will have more advantages if managing properly. Early this year is the beginning of having a low value so that investing right now and holding it for a long period of at least two years will definitely benefit.
to do this is not easy, to hold in the long term requires good psychological endurance. especially when floating positively and you are already profit more and more, of course, feeling that you will immediately sell it will appear and it will become an inner war. therefore we must determine the target and strategy, so that it can be used as a goal |
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