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9561  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: De Lima - ARREST on: February 27, 2017, 05:43:18 AM
There are a lot of evidence that already supports that De Lima is already guilty of their accusations, a lot has testified that coincides with the accusations and probably it is really true. She is corrupt and she deserves it, I guess.
9562  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you like to receive your salary in BTC? on: February 27, 2017, 05:33:07 AM
I guess it depends how much my salary is, for a minimum, I can agree that you can change my salary into bitcoin. The disadvantage is that whenever the price is high, the bitcoin amount would be lessen so when it's low, it would be taken advantage of. You have no worries with the transaction fees.
9563  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: February 27, 2017, 05:03:10 AM
Yes Bitcoin is like a long term investment and have proven to give very very good returns in long term and more profitable than gold.
In 2009 you could buy lots of Bitcoin for $1 and in 2013 price was above 1000$ for one Bitcoin only.
Let me correct you something dude, Cheesy
Instead of Bitcoin is Like a long term investment, It is a "Real long term Investment" It is designed to operate as digital gold but can be used as currency.

Lol I guess it is originally designed as a digital currency but people look at it as a digital gold or something like a store of value.  though  I agree that Bitcoin is a long term investment but you can maximize it by playing the markets fluctuation.  If you master this kind of play you will be surprise that your 1 Bitcoin will eventually become 2 or 3 or 5 and eventually 100 without adding any amount of money in it.  That is the beauty of trading.
In the above quote its well described about the goodness of trading. People have started investing bitcoin similar to gold, but the importance is that bitcoin gives a bigger profit than gold but it haven't gained trust similar to gold. People consider it a risky investment, because price fall and increase is unpredictable. One needs to hold long time without selling, but timely selling is good to avoid loss.
- Much profit_ much risk. Price of Bitcoin have been on an upward trend in the recent years, demand of Bitcoin is increasing more and more and many people predicted it will beat the price of gold. Risks from Bitcoin is not too high and potential of Bitcoin is too big, it is really worth the risk. Selling it now will cause you to lose a chance to get rich in the future, time and chance never come back, I do not want to waste my time and my chance
If you believe that the potential of Bitcoin is really high, then probably invest in it and hope that the price still rockets. Don't forget that Bitcoin has been the primary cryptocurrency and when others adapt it, for sure the demand will also rise in the upcoming times.
9564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 27, 2017, 03:57:17 AM
I would say just give up, and create an environment that you don't visit those sites anymore. Install software on your pc that does that. I used to have a serious gambling problems a few months back. Still do, but I have taken steps like never having too much btc on me which doesn't let me give in to the urge of gambling.

In addition to that change the lifestyle that you always do everyday, Its a big help for sure if we do it little by little. Before when I was starting to play in the gambling site it was really fun in the beginning  only, but once addiction for real being applied it would be a serious problem. Change the habit, one by one its the first step for now.
Its only in the beginning because you are experience of excitement but if you realize that you are not getting profit.. and you are losing a lot you will stop to gamble..
As i can seen these year i think no one are too addicted to gamble due to the price increase and wise decision if they are lose they will stop instead they are choosing to bet in sports betting than gamble in any other luck base game..
Changing ones habit is already hard because you are used to it already. If you're winning especially, you want to experience it over and over again. You can be bored when you're losing all the time. It's hard to stop gambling especially when you like it and you know that you can profit with different strategies
Profiting through gambling keeps you active. The same when loss happens continuously the one who have self control realise it and move forward giving rest to gambling. Some with over confidence borrows and gamble, which results the person to completely quit gambling. With gambling one need to know when to give a break and comeback to win.
You are right when we do experience winning we do put our minds to play even more and as you said it keeps us active.Thus,self control would really be needed for you to able to avoid the unexpected non good things will happen to you. Quitting might easy to say or advice to someone but actually its really hard to do.
I sure know that everyone agrees with that kind of mentality. Self control would be a great factor into controlling yourself, and it's going to be hard if you really want to earn in someway. You know that if you keep on playing, you will probably earn a lot. Quitting would be a good thing if it already affects your relationships with others.
9565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 27, 2017, 12:33:29 AM
I would say just give up, and create an environment that you don't visit those sites anymore. Install software on your pc that does that. I used to have a serious gambling problems a few months back. Still do, but I have taken steps like never having too much btc on me which doesn't let me give in to the urge of gambling.

In addition to that change the lifestyle that you always do everyday, Its a big help for sure if we do it little by little. Before when I was starting to play in the gambling site it was really fun in the beginning  only, but once addiction for real being applied it would be a serious problem. Change the habit, one by one its the first step for now.
Its only in the beginning because you are experience of excitement but if you realize that you are not getting profit.. and you are losing a lot you will stop to gamble..
As i can seen these year i think no one are too addicted to gamble due to the price increase and wise decision if they are lose they will stop instead they are choosing to bet in sports betting than gamble in any other luck base game..
Changing ones habit is already hard because you are used to it already. If you're winning especially, you want to experience it over and over again. You can be bored when you're losing all the time. It's hard to stop gambling especially when you like it and you know that you can profit with different strategies
9566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 24, 2017, 09:46:14 AM
Many people became broke because of gambling, addiction is a serious disease, you know they can't stop when they win or lose. Pathetic gamblers.

It's pathetic and that's why I would recommend a psychologist for any potential gambler because when you eventually lose more than you can handle then you should know that's the dead end and if care isn't taken you'll become an addict.

A professional psychiatrist / psychologist needs to help gamblers that are in such serious situation like this one. There are some saying that it won't help and it will depend to the gambler but with such guides from these people will help you to give up gambling easily also don't forget your family will play a big role for it.

Quitting from gambling is definitely not easy. If someone is really determine to quit from it, it should come from both sides, the people that advices/guides you to quit from gambling and yourself that really want to escape from addiction. That way you will slowly get out of addiction from gambling and start a new chapter of your life.

Of course you should do the initiative and you need to have the willingness to quit gambling. If you are not that willing then what's the sense of quitting if you are not willing. Also you need to find some more interesting thing that will catch your attention so that you can have some time for relaxation to yourself and forget gambling a little by little.
Willingness to quit gambling would really be needed and should really be the first step because next steps wont be effective or useless if since from the start you are not willing on quitting it because you will surely play gambling again no matter what. Strong patience,determination and discipline would really be require for you to quit gambling gradually.
Those you have mentioned that a gambler needs to quit gambling is very essential. You should really push yourself in quitting because if you will not push yourself and you are not determined with your plan for it. You will just fail yourself on quitting. But if you are aspiring and hopeful to quit gambling, go for the goal.

I think that the best way to quit gambling is to realize that you are an addict and then to sick for help.
If you ask a professional help they could help you much better then u could help yourself.

We really can't quit gambling alone we need to accept the fact that we can't do it by ourselves. Seeking help with others is just a normal and it shouldn't be a thing to be ashamed of. Because if you are desperate to quit gambling you will do something for it, whether it will come from professional, friends or family.
Actually, it would be really hard to quit by ourselves, it is possible to do that. Peers would be a lot of help when quitting because you have sharings or something. The only thing that will make you quit is yourself. Your will to quit will be the deciding factor if it's possible or not.
9567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 24, 2017, 08:53:52 AM
Personally I don't gamble full time so I don't live off gambling but I can say I've been able to acquire a few electronics for myself and have loaned a few friends part of my profits from gambling so I will say it hasn't made me rich but profitable in every sense.

That's a good result and use of your winnings I wish that I'm the same with you. But the sad thing is that I can't even have a winning streak or day in any gambling game. Pressure keeps on putting me down because even I win small amount I'm not having receiving good amount with it and becoming rich is just a dream for me and how it is with becoming rich through gambling.
I think the winning streak is very difficult to obtain, it was will depend on the luck of each person. Maybe in order to get profit is better immediately stop if get profit because if to gambling again will always lose, I always experience like that if to gambling streak. I think people can get rich on their gambling have luck and big capital.
Yes that is very nice and I think that is the key to success, but I think the most problem is that it is very difficult to stop gambling if you do not have well power and if you do not have experience in gambling. I think it Is one of the most difficult decision to stop gambling even you know that its time to stop but still you want to continue and not to stop now.
Having a big capital can assure you in winning, better chances that you won't lose a streak. Even when you are just going to play a few safe bets. There's a guarantee that you could earn bigger than some people because you have  large bet from the large bankroll. Don't forget that greediness can lead your bankroll down.
9568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: February 24, 2017, 08:51:40 AM
Gambling sometimes helps me in my life in the fun that I am experiencing and for the little profit but its not good to make this as an habitual activity. This helps a lot but if being abused it may lead to addiction, so you should manage your emotions so that it will bring good effect to your life.
Making it a habit means it will slowly turning it to addiction if it's too much. Gambling can help you when you win, and when you lose, for sure you will just be sad. There's no helping you in the future. Only you can turn your life around when you do it.
9569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 24, 2017, 08:47:50 AM
I think the best strategy of gambling casino is make our business casino gambling,
because however we are professional on gambling casino it is still depend on the lucky.
But if we have business gambling of casino we can take the fees from the gamblers
that is mean we get profit from gambling casino, than become a gamblers. Cheesy
Do you think that It is such an easy job to run a casino. I think it is not such an easy, because it require a lot of money and secondly you must have good hold in your area where you want run a casino, because while running a casino you have to run face a lot of problems and if you do not have mass power then you cannot control such problems.
I think it's hard to maintain the casino if you run it just because you will have players that will probably get your bankroll. But for sure there will be players that going to lose money in your casino so that will benefit you. It is hard to tell but for sure, if the casino isn't down yet, then probably it's still making good money. Easy money.
9570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: February 24, 2017, 03:33:40 AM
I'm a proud gambler (sports better). I make money from my bets even though it's not been consistent my wins far outweigh my loses and I feel proud of having multiple sources of income. Why should I be ashamed?
That's a great way to earn income. Maybe you have a lot of knowledge in sports, that's why you are successful there. I'm still learning on different things concerning sports betting and how teams are going to play. You don't have to be ashamed if you are just playing for fun and you're not addicted.
9571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: February 24, 2017, 03:31:41 AM
Gambling should be used as a form of entertainment and recreational activity when you are away from work.

Some people are gambling when sitting in the office, trust me on that. Smiley

It gets to be wrong when you are laundering money through a casino which can get you into trouble or jail most likely.

Not only because of that gambling can be wrong. Actually you've mentioned a rare case. Mostly gambling is wrong when someone becomes addicted to it and loses money or time or both to to this activity.
Yes, people do gambling in office, but they will not play in work time. When they get free time, they will play some games in gambling. I am also in this category. But I will not play in front of my colleagues. When I am alone in my cabin, i will play. And very rarely I will open gambling site in office. And the gambling is not wrong, but addicting to gambling is wrong. 

Agree with you mate. Gambling is definitely not wrong when you are just playing with it for fun and entertainment. When you are already playing almost everytime and addiction kicks in, that is the time that gambling is really a no good hobby.
It depends on how you are playing with it and what kind of games you are doing. Every time you play, you should keep in ind your limit, it could help you with gaining knowledge for yourself to be disciplined and of course, profit. In the long run, if you keep winning even in small amounts, it could lead you to a large profit soon enough.
9572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 24, 2017, 03:29:47 AM
most professional gamblers have their own strategies they can avoid big loses and just risk a little, knowing how to quit even you are still at lost is part of a strategy because you know their still a lots of time to play back and try your luck no need to push and keep you in a losing streak and burned out everything that you have.
Yes professional gamblers always play gambling with strategy and planning. They never play gambling with blind eyes. In fact they have good experience in gambling, actually they play gambling for a long time and therefore they know all the tricks of gambling. And that is the reason that they mostly make money in gambling.
That's for sure, they are organized and they know what they will do when things come astray or when a certain situation comes. They have experienced a lot of things in gambling, in their respective games, and therefore knowledgeable in gaining profit. Gaining knowledge from professionals could lead you to be better.
9573  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many times have you've been scammed? on: February 24, 2017, 03:27:27 AM
i don't remember how many times i've been scammed especially in the beginning time when i know bitcoin. i think i've been scammed in the investment program like hyip, double, cloud mining, because i remember when i am new person in bitcoin, i am not thinking too much about earning bitcoin and i am doing many ways so i can earn more bitcoin but in the end, i only getting loss of my bitcoin. after that bad experience, i realize that there is no short way to earn bitcoin and i am glad that i can learn from my mistakes.
Gaining knowledge here in Bitcointalk can help you a lot in understanding what Bitcoin is for, how it was created, the advantages of using it, etc. I was just scammed because of my lack of knowledge in the traders profile. I should've checked his account before making a trade, and I didn't think that's going to happen. Oh well, we all learn from our mistakes.
9574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: February 24, 2017, 03:19:41 AM
Hey! guys i need your opinion and help because i didn't know about this trading thing i only know about how you can earn bitcoin by gambling but still my friend told me that gambling is not the way to earn bitcoin but if you try trading you will earn much profit why is that so guys? trading is better than bitcoin? how? why? where to find that trading thing?
For not deep in gambling of course Trading is better than gambling, but to those gambler who are addicted in gambling site for them gambling is better than bitcoin. In my side trading is really one of the best putting our investment.

Yeah, it really depends on the person whether he likes gambling than trading. If the guy is addicted to gambling already, then we have a problem with that since he'll most likely gamble all the way and not care about money. If you are talking about earning money, then hands down trading is better. No one earns from gambling but the casino and its investors.

i am choose doing trading too than playing gambling to make money and i think doing trading is not difficult as long as we want to learn about trading and with some practice, i am sure that we can do better in trading and we can make money although for the first time and the second is not much money, but in the end, we can make big money from trading.
It's fun to do both ways, gambling and trading. I haven't been trading much and have less experience compared to gambling. But recently, I made a trade that benefited me in the long run. It's exciting but I still have a lot to learn in trading. Trading is safer compared to gambling, but the amount of profit you can gain from gambling in a short amount of time would be significantly bigger compared to trading.
9575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 24, 2017, 03:15:11 AM
The only fields where you can smart play will be poker and sport gambling.

For everything else... Well that's just pure luck!
There is no "smart way" to play slots or dice. There is a very smart way into playing blackjack but not online, online it's still luck, only real life blackjack can be outplayed by someone very smart ^^

Yeah Black Jack and other games like that using some skills. But what will we call someone that can stop gambling dice when he knows that he is losing or knows that he had won enough?
There are ways to play smart on dice, maybe you're just playing it and not analyzing it to have a strategy. There are a lot of ways you can do that, by observing the chances and not abusing them. It's always been like that. If you abuse it, then it's time to stop because you will be surprised when you lost all your bankroll.
9576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 24, 2017, 03:07:58 AM
No I am not rich yet from gambling but I am hoping I will hit the lottery jackpot so that I will be rich from gambling.  I doubt I can rich just by sportsbetting or playing dice or poker.  I have a very low bankroll and all I need is the lottery Jackpot for the millionaire thing.

There is really no wrong in wishing to win in the lottery - it is fine. However, your chances of winning in sportsbetting, dice, and playing poker, is more than winning in the lottery.
That's normal because you can't win as big as the reward in the lottery, actually you can also make your sports betting as lottery likes by doing a many legs parlay that would give a payout which will satisfy you. The more legs to put in a parlay would mean the chances of winning is lessen while the reward is getting higher, it's up to you but it's more fun to do it in sports as you can analyze it prior.

this could be possible if we have the right info about each of team on the match on sports betting, but if we only buy lottery jackpot then our chances is small depend on sports betting so maybe we only trying to place a bet in sports betting. but for being curious in lottery jackport, i think its good to try but we should consider its just a games.
If there are fixed matches on games that are popular, for sure you could earn a lot of money in sports betting. If you have that kind of source, why not? It's going to be easy wins for you. It's like being unstoppable in gambling. Be careful though, limit your bets because you will never know what can happen even though it's fixed.
9577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: February 24, 2017, 02:59:06 AM
When do you stop? Do you have a daily limit or something?

Yes of course, you must have a limitation to your bankroll while doing gamble in the game, whether you win or loss once the limits has been reach then stop, do it on the next day again.

limitation can help us to avoid getting more loss in gambling games so we still have money for another playing and we should obey our rule and we should leave the sites as soon as possible. i am practicing to use limitation so far and i think its works fine for me and i hope i can continue doing this so i can controlled myself in gambling games.
Yeah, that's an effective strategy especially when you are just getting started in gambling. It could make your experience a lot better when you use that kind of strategy when gambling. If you control yourself, you could make a lot of profit, even if it's just small amounts. Just be satisfied with what you have in order to not be greedy.

That's kind of conflicting what you said. "You could make a lot of profit" then you said "even if it's just small amounts" Well to reconcile what you said, probably what you meant is to earn small portions and in the long run you'll profit big time. Though in gambling there is no guarantee you will profit. Most of the time what you earn is also what you lose.
What I mean is, if you keep withdrawing small amounts, it could lead to a large profit. It doesn't mean already that it's conflicting. That's what I mean, for sure there would be times that you would lose, and sometimes you would win. There's always no guarantee but you could add more chances by making a strategy.
9578  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drug free in the Philippines on: February 24, 2017, 02:56:15 AM
Pres Duterte and the administration try to kill  drugs in the Philippines but  doesn't mean the druglords have  all killed

It is not possible to kill all the drug-lords. They have money, and they will just flee to the neighboring nations. On the other hand, it is the poor slum dwellers who are getting killed by the vigilante squads.

They can be killed, only that, they are not being touched as there are politicians behind them... Once they are moved, then a new accusation will pop out of the congress... The drug network isn't small, and it isn't easy to cure it unless you create a border and prevent the in and outs of products in your country...  Smiley
When something big happens, for sure there will be chaos in the government. Some people are really greedy making them easy targets for people with money. When they have someone of high rank to back them up, for sure there are illegal actions done by them. They are amazed with what the drug lords offer, with an insane amount of cash.
9579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: February 24, 2017, 02:15:01 AM
How does one Put down Gambling for good?
try to make yourself busy with other things that would keep you distracted,
So that you could stay away from gambling or stay with your family and friends.

Earnest intention to quit is the most important thing when we wanted to leave gambling. Doing other stuffs and keep busy on it will help us to gain our intention.
It is not likely a way to quit gambling for good because when you are free or do not have anything to do, you will certainly think about gambling again. The best way here is to attend some classes which teach us how to control our body and mind. It is very effective because with the knowledge you obtain from this class, you will develop yourself in many ways. Therefore, you will know the exact way to quit gambling

Right.. I guess the right question to ask then is this: how to quit the addiction of gambling and not the gambling itself. Because gambling is a good source of fun and entertainment and a good reliever of stress from a hard days of work - well, if played moderately and with the bankroll that we can afford to lose.
You cannot stop gambling itself, especially when you are just a player and nt an owner. There are a lot of people that enjoys gambling and makes a living out of it and they just enjoy it. They are really experienced compared to other people, just be happy and just treat it as an entertainment and you won't be addicted.
9580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: February 24, 2017, 02:13:00 AM
At the beginning I played for profit,but I realised is very hard to make profit.Now,I play only for fun.

Kodus to you my friend! It is good that you have learned it fairly early and applied the lessons you gained. Gambling mst be played for fun and entertainment and not for profit - unless you want to become a professional gambler, which by the way, is not an easy job to do.
It is really not an easy Job to do if you want to make a professional  gambler it may takes time, money and effort so you need to have a lot of money before you wanted to do it. Or better to control yourself and just save your money instead of playing it in gambling.
If you want to be professional in something, you have to render at least thousand hours and prove that your record is outstanding. That you have achieved an elite level, then people will start to notice you. It's going to make you happy if that's your passion. It's going to be a heart break if you lose if you just want profit, just play for entertainment and everything will be alright.
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