I Bought some UVC yesterday and started the wallet so I can withdraw it but not getting any connections yet. what is the current nodelist?

Are tulip bulbs the fastest, cheapest, and most secure way to pay anyone on the planet?

I support updating the website and I think that having a three person judging panel is an excellent idea for getting different perspectives.  It is my opinion that since DVC was founded with developers and OS in mind, it is imperative that the website be the most engaging, aesthetically pleasing site out there. 

A while, but not as long as many others. Things are in a bit of a transition at the moment, in terms of people and focus also aiming to achieve some of what you say. But the more ideas the better. Until everything's settled into place I guess hunterbunter is the guy to msg on big-picture ideas (he can say if I'm wrong on that).

On the website, I'm all for iterative progress - trial, error, improvement, progress - that's sort of devcoin's entire thing imo. And an multi-step update process is a good way to involve multiple interests/skills (art, marketing, design, development). It might be nice to do it in train with hypersire though, who ofered and built the current himself for free, or at least give him a heads up in case he has his own thoughts? That doesn't mean any limit to completely new ideas or updated aesthetics on current, only that it seems to make sense to involve the current website admin and developer in any prospective changes. But I'm not a web developer so again someone can tell me if I'm wrong on that basic outlook on how these things get done.

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Does anyone know why this thread keeps being moved to the announcement sub forum? I got it moved back last time it happened, but getting annoying as I think devcoin really has only the best of intentions and focus.

Ok I think we could make a bounty or two around a website update, it's a positive experiment - the current page is acceptable, but if a better one comes along that has a wider appeal, we'd be silly not to use it. A good looking, well filled out html5-ish website that looks sexy is great for PR/morale. Dev's should be more than used to the idea of iterative design (common programming principle), and it's a good practice to have for the devcoin project in general. It's the best way to use limited resources for complex projects.

One thing this highlights is our general problem of selecting dev tasks that depend on things like aesthetics. Programmers are typically a functional bunch, and UI/UX tends to take second place. A voting system would be good, but progress kind of died on voting-bounty engine ideas a few months ago. We still quite badly need some good solutions to be developed, especially for things that largely depend on wider appeal, so maybe we can bump that up the priority list once we get developers interested again. We want to create a place where the different disciplines can meet and play (collaborate), and a good bounty engine will allow that.

In any case, since we have to do without for now, let's try something new. I'd like three people to be the judges of the new website design. There will be a deadline for 2-3 page mockups (photoshop, ms paint, whatever, people may be able to use templates they've purchased, but I'm not sure if there are license ramifications for that, so check that first), and the judges have to decide if that submission meets the criteria they set for the new site. If no mockups are satisfactory to the judges, the original stays, and another deadline will be set for new mockups. The judges are picking which mockup to proceed with. If a designer can do a good mockup, but can't do the site itself, they should still do the mockup and say they'll need help with the site in their submission, and someone will be able to help for a share of the bounty (usually split by time spent, but that's up to the people involved).

The judges should be confident they know what a good UI/UX is - self-proclaimed is fine. I'm happy to put my 2 dvc in, but I don't want to be a final judge of this - I'd prefer to include more people in the decision making going forward. Of course, judges can't submit a design, but that shouldn't surprise anyone. If you want to judge this competition, have no intention of putting a design in but know in your heart of hearts what makes a page shine, post in this thread that you'd like to judge. The first three people in good standing with the community will get the task. Good standing is anyone who has ever earned a share, or a non share-earner (eg investor, but you don't have to prove it) who has actively discussed improvements here or elsewhere and has no legitimate objection from other admins or share earners.

The judges must decide on a list of criteria for the competition (including whether or not to allow logo-redesigns, considering the impact it'll have across all our websites and client), and once that's clear I'll suggest a bounty amount. If everyone agrees on that and the deadline, then mockup submissions are go. Once the deadline has passed, the judges will have a week to decide on a winner, and it's solely up to them how they decide it (eg: unison vote, vote for 3 designs and highest count wins, 1 vote each, as some suggestions). If a winner is picked, that designer has as much time as they need to rejuvenate the website with/without aid, and they'll get the shares once all the criteria are satisfied. If the criteria the judges set are extensive, this can be a tiered bounty with milestone rewards.

How does that sound? Anything that should be changed?

Fair enough then on the website, constructive criticism is a good thing. As HB said I think it was optimised for mobiles and smaller screens. Some changes in line with coming adjustments might be good, although I don't really see what could be added until new projects/structural aspects are implemented. Don't see the point of a logo competition as we had one before to design the current imaging.

I can do the website, if Hypersire is not available.

The structural changes coming to devcoin in Round 43 should align devcoin with its core intention - to support Open Source development. There will certainly be a rebalancing of work segments - Open Source work and Creative Commons writing, but the momentum of the changes should leverage internal and external opinion favorably. It will be interesting to see how it plays out, and I say that as a writer going to get less coins. But supply and demand - if a % is withheld, supply is less. Now the goal should be to increase demand.

But why stop there - the website has been mentioned a few times; it's not as flash as some of the other crypto website portals, so perhaps a makeover, in conjunction with the share distibution changes, could place devcoin in a new light. Perhaps we could make a visible change  - new colors, new logo also? A lot of exchanges use the yellow devcoin logo (designed by Icoin IIRC). Or a logo design contest?

Could the amount of coins provided to faucets be temporarily increased for Round 44, to boost awareness of the structural changes? Allowing them to dispense a larger minimum amount of coins for thsi period.

Throw in some PR and we could be in a good position to gain some momentum.

well smart money is all accumulating right now as you should be, so as price rises developers will come in and do a design for a bounty. That is the core benefit of devcoin over any other alt coin.

Which website do you mean?

I agree, this thread is our main connection to the broader crypto-community, and we certainly want to keep this connection alive.

The response has been fairly positive about the proposal, so I'm feeling encouraged. The summary for those who want a tl;dr version is this:

From round 43, divisions will be implemented within the general share structure. Each category of shares now earns division shares, and at the end of the round, each division is normalized against the highest producing division. This makes under-performing disciplines (eg Open Source Development) more attractive than over-producing ones during a round. Each division is still free to find the cheapest price per share of work.

Community fund to be established, performing duties such as: market support, micro business incubator, restricting supply of coins to market to help price recover, saving for larger software purchases and providing a place for incubation equity dividends to be managed.

Aural and Visual the new divisions, but 100% of share income will go to the new community fund until those divisions are established.

Devcoin market fund (subset of community fund), will provide market support to reduce exchange risk to devcoin earners, and ensure a better long term pay.

Ok, I've got a draft ready for the proposal. Posted it on devtome because it's fairly long:

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_division_proposal

Summary and general discussion thread here: http://coinzen.org/index.php/topic,1087.msg34924.html#msg34924

If you can't access coinzen for whatever reason, feel free to post here.

I have roughly 2000 coins to send out prior to your coins.  I would expect these coins on Monday

Dev I would say do the swap VERY SLOW one person every two days or something.

They ARE going to DUMP ASAP


FOR SURE


So to protect those who are last on the list who might of been on vacation, let's do it slow. OR you're going to see a INSTANT DUMP right away and stop the whole thing.

They didn't care, 99% of them till today. So take it slow and your pace, them even slower x like 2 extra days.

There were a few people who were asking before today, maybe start with them. They are a few pages back.

A few of them did care and did believe, lets start with them first. Just an idea.


Great Job with everything.

Congrats on todays success, you deserve it!!!!



Thank You!!