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I strongly think Vod -and in lower degree jonald_fyookball and other supporters- have joined Quickseller into having their reasoning affected because of hate. It's sad to see like that people I used to consider very trustworthy and easy to talk to with arguments instead of attacks.
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11.500,00 Doge involved.
You need to offer about 1.75 million DOGE for it to be considered valid collateral. If you can't offer anything as collateral you should lock this thread. You won't get the loan and you risk receiving negative trust. |
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Mr. Vod and Ecuamoby:
The collateral remain in the hand of Lender. He could close the loan at any time and whitdrawal all the amont deposited. I cannot access to this account!
I done this because I receive a fee for each account i open.
This is a fully reliable collateral. and it whitdrawable at any moment.
Collateral is something you can easily sell for more than the loan plus interests, in this case more than 0.6*3=1.8 BTC. So not really it's not valid/sufficient collateral. You can read more here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.msg6311902#msg6311902It's very arguable whether it's worth 1.5 BTC. You must give more information to convince everyone you can't recover the account. Most of the times there's always one way for the person who creates an account to recover it, via support for example. Or you could even control that site, as Nobitcoin said. So you're offering something that could be worth the loan with a significant risk of losing everything. That's not valid collateral. |
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I will send btc after payment received.
But you also work with escrow, right? You must explicitly mention since you don't have a good trust. |
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Is this still an auction or was the deal closed? What's the minimum increase? I can bid $12
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If the evidences are so strong, why did they received only 1 negative?
When I see really strong proofs against someone, they usually receive 2 or more trusted negative trusts
Most scammers with proof do have 2+ DT negative feedback. Others don't because he left the feedback silently. Normally a non-DT member opens a scam accusation and the offender get a lot of negative trust. That doesn't always apply when a DT member finds the scam attempt. I've already checked the latest QS' left feedback a few days ago and left negative feedback to several proven scammers/'attempters'. When I have more time I'll go further in the list. |
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Poll Auto Closed
Almost 95% of people (19 out of 20) feel that escrowing for yourself is wrong.
That is overwhelming community agreement.
Let future scammers know if they try this, they will be ostracized from the community just like Cody/Quickscammer.
This poll was really useless. It was obvious that was going to be the result. A simple Yes or No didn't really help. Now we need to know how bad the community thinks it is. We still don't know if most people thinks it deserves a negative feedback or when exactly it does: whenever fees are charged, even if no fees are charged, only when problems arise, only when malicious collusion happens, etc. The poll doesn't mean any similar action deserves a negative feedback (it neither says it doesn't of course). Personally I really dislike this practice as I've already said but I consider a deeper analysis could be required on every case before leaving a negative. |
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I would like to begin using Keybase.io, but when I saw the waiting line to sign up, I pretty much knew it wasn't going to happen. Does anyone have a spare keybase.io invite? If so, please send me a private message!  I do. Just PM me your email address. Edit: Sent |
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I'm working on a small site to visualize the trust and show some stats. For that I've analysed the data and am therefore able to show this list considering the following factors to make it as close as possible to the real behavior of being added or removed on each level: - The rating is calculated from adding all the additions and subtracting all the exclusions, independently on each level.
- Any user added on a higher level is higher in the rank than other user on a lower level. One single addition on level 1 is worth more than 10 on level 2 and so on.
- If a user is explicitly removed from level 2 it can't be on level 3. Therefore users with negative level 2 will appear at the bottom of the list.
- At the moment this includes only up to level 3, I'll post a more complete list in the future. Every user included or removed up to level 3 is here.
For visualization purposes I just show in parenthesis the inclusions minus exclusions on each level (Level1 / Leve2 / Level3). A - is shown when the user doesn't appear on a particular level. You can see the list with a much better format here: https://ecua.mobi/trust/users.xhtmlThe list: Rank User Trust
1 theymos (1 / 6 / 31)
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4 dooglus (1 / 4 / 18)
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7 Tomatocage (1 / 3 / 13)
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I need a 0.1 bitcoin loan which i am able to repay with 50 % interest in 10 days.As a colatareal i am giving my skrill account with 23.68 euros of balance.
Your collateral is invalid. Even if it were valid it's insufficient. You must offer collateral worth more than the loan amount plus interest. In this case you must offer something that can easily be sold for more than 0.15 BTC. Read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0Especially the first 2 posts. |
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I confirm I received the full repayment. Thanks. |
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You have reported 975 posts with 100% accuracy |
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I've removed my feedback. I'm glad you got it back! |
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Dear user,why did you feel the need to make this request public?
He did PM me and I asked him to post in Meta, for I wanted the communities input. I am a bit unsure of this one. I think because of the fact he asked for a no collateral loan just a month ago, I'll ask him to wait a couple more months (without asking for a loan) before the trust gets removed. I removed his feedback in the end of July, about one month after I left it due to the mentioned 5-BTC loan and was about to re-add it because of his new loan. I decided not to because he closed it quickly after I warned him via PM and others did the same on the thread, but it is a difficult case indeed. Making him wait one more month seems fair to me. I will definitely re-add the feedback if he asks for a loan with insufficient collateral in the future. Hallo,
Yes, i require a loan of 5BTC whit 2 BTC as collateral. But i this is not a valid thing For have a negative trust. Perhaps othe People when see My trust always require a Little bit more For selling me BTC or if i sell BTC buyer require me to send first, and i this is not a good thing.
Also i was scammed in Digital good section because the seller want i sen 0,4,BTC first due to My neg trust. I think i pay very lot For this trust so i hope Vod could remove the trust. I Will never go to require a loan in the future and, as you could see, i try to borrow some BTC in lending section Too, but no one asked me.
Thank For you attention and hope you could unduerstand My reason.
Why do you always mention the fact you were scammed? You did the same when asking me to remove my feedback. Regardless of it being true or not it doesn't make you more trustworthy, and this is not based on pity. Regarding you not wanting to send first, you do not have to: Always use escrow. Your negative feedback should discourage people from sending first to you and that is perfectly fine, that's the intention of the feedback. But you're free to refuse to go first, just ask the other party to use a very trusted escrow. If they refuse there's a big chance they want to scam you and therefore you should not deal with them. |
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Don't dox QuickSeller. The forum hath decided with negative trust and loss of DT status. Anything more is just out of spite/anger and harms this forum more than helping it.
I couldn't agree more, this is nonsense. I hope Shadow_Runner will come to his senses but it seems hate is blinding him, as it has several other members here already. |
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