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9761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 27, 2017, 04:42:37 PM
So encrypted blockchains ? Good? At least you can hide the cripplemine






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I think a lot of people would rather be in bitcoin because it's so bullish right now.  That could be suppressing xmr's price a little bit.
Eventually XMR will rally versus XBT, the question is when.  It could happen next week or two years from now.

Once BTC holders start their profit taking xmr will see some of that come back.
9762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 25, 2017, 10:26:06 PM
HAH, put a margin buy in and forgot a zero!
9763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 25, 2017, 01:11:20 AM
Wolfram Warptangent, Point Release 2.1

https://github.com/monero-project/monero/releases

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the 0.10.2.1 point release fixes two sets of RPC issues that affected the 0.10.2 point release

Thanks for keeping us updated. Smiley

Also can you point me to where it's explained why this is added?

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add HTTP digest authentication support to all RPC interfaces

And BIG thanks to all on this list as well.

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Contributors for this Release

This release was the direct result of 24 people who worked, largely unpaid and altruistically, to put out 527 commits containing 21 090 new lines of code. We'd like to thank them very much for their time and effort. In no particular order they are:

    Alexis Enston
    luigi1111
    Miguel Herranz
    vdo
    anonimal
    kenshi84
    Dan Miller
    moneromooo-monero
    Ashley Perpetual
    fireice-uk
    MoroccanMalinois
    Riccardo Spagni
    Timothy D. Prime
    moneroexamples
    Jaquee
    Lee Clagett
    Chris Vickio
    Antonio Huete Jimenez
    Howard Chu
    Randi Joseph
    Dion Ahmetaj
    Bitcoin Error Log
    iDunk5400
    NanoAkron
9764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 23, 2017, 09:21:10 PM
Not sure why no one did not posted this here

Wolfram Warptangent, Point Release 2

This is a necessary point release of Monero v0.10 "Wolfram Warptangent", and is a strongly, strongly recommended update as it includes massive efficiency improvements to the RingCT validation code and various other necessary bug fixes.


Some highlights of this release are:

- massive speed improvements to RingCT validation
- cache tx hashes for failed txs with bad semantics
- added an update notification / download / verification system (to be expanded to include opt-in auto-updating for unattended daemons)
- initial smart mining implementation (Linux only)
- improvements to IBD (initial block download) and sync speed
- switched to a portable serialiser so that wallet files can be used on any operating system
- added uptime to daemon status
- added support for separated mempool / peer datasets for multiple nodes on the same machine (with different p2p ports)
- added a change_password command to monero-wallet-cli
- addes support for restoring wallets from a certain date
- added mempool prioritisation of older txs
- added fixes to fluffy blocks (not enabled by default on mainnet yet)
- add HTTP digest authentication support to all RPC interfaces
- added a connection limit for incoming connections from the same IP
- switched to EasyLogging++ for logs
- added a gray peerlist house keeping system
- added support for multiple daemons using the same LMDB database
- added additional password prompting for monero-wallet-cli actions
- added additional output detail for ring output selection in monero-wallet-cli
- fixed issues with wallets dealing with large reorgs
- massive additions to libwallet_api for additional functions used by the GUI
- removed support for BerkeleyDB, as it is now deprecated
- added support for Android
- added support for DragonFlyBSD
- fixed armv8 build issues


Because the devs don't give a shit about BCT anymore.

Can you explain why this was added?

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- add HTTP digest authentication support to all RPC interfaces
9765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Vitalik and Tual going to end up in jail? on: February 23, 2017, 06:55:52 PM
The SEC is just looking for people to make examples out of in crypto. If they were going to do something they would have done it by now.

That's ture but they also could be waiting for the right time to pounce and I bet Vitalik will be at the top of their hit list.

I think the Ethereum is not a security.

Well it's not Secure, Thats for sure! Cheesy
9766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 23, 2017, 04:23:01 PM

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The viewkey is only available to the sender. It's the receiver that wants the "proof".
No it's not.

In a Monero transaction, the viewkey is only available to the sender, not the receiver.

There is a view key for every wallet for all transactions.

https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/moneropedia/viewkey



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  Grin

I agree with you this gems should be posted on Monero thread


https://i.imgur.com/7sWDQHh.png


EDIT: WTF, how did I get in a dash thread? Dammit stop throwing links in these two threads to drag everyone into this bullshit never ending godamn argument.

Don't quote me and change my post.

And it's not Monero's fault that those AB users don't know how to use it. There are tons of MONERO blockchain explorers so either that guys an idiot or a lier either way he's not worth my time. Probably a dashfag trying to fud XMR on AB.
9767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 23, 2017, 03:54:39 PM

Users have the option to prove an XMR tx happened using a view key.

No they don't.

The viewkey is only available to the sender. It's the receiver that wants the "proof".

No it's not.
The receiver received the funds and they can use their view key for their wallet if they need to. The viewkey shows all the incoming transactions of the address it belongs to. I don't see an issue here. Maybe you don't understand how what it's purpose is?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3mknh9/mymonero_and_viewkey/cvg7oc3/


EDIT: WTF, how did I get in a dash thread? Dammit stop throwing links in these two threads to drag everyone into this bullshit never ending godamn argument.
9768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 23, 2017, 03:39:52 PM

Who is the victim of the scam? And what about the monero crippled miner launch? Scam aswell ?

You realise that EVERY new algo is a cripple mine per se? Because when there is profit to be made you can be sure either the devs already got their better code or even GPU miners are already ready for a CPU coin, nothing different here. And if the Devs are fair someone with deep pockets would have hired somebody already to do a GPU miner...
Also i find it very concerning that people defending an instamine come up with sth like a cripple mine... twisted mind?

Can the trolling ping pong get done with by any chance? Getting boring. High school shit (btw this is a general comment on the last couple of pages)
Mainstream?Really? We are all living in a crypto bubble with rather grand dreams. Nobody but us and the ones naturally gravitating towards individual freedom and responsibility will find us. As for the rest? Dont think so. Thats the problem with democracy. Freedom and personal responsibility will never be voted in....btw Dash? ts ts ts Its marketing towards those that do not care and dont see the point. Apart from speculators there is nothing......

Someone that rants a whole lot better on the topic:

https://medium.com/the-exofiles/a-letter-to-the-blockchain-community-8217fd0a4757#.8bspmegsy

Good read until this load of horseshit. Replace one central authority with another good speal spin it to someone else thank you very much.

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Now, don’t give me this argument about how you want to remove human error from the equation entirely. It’s not going to happen and you’re foolish for believing it’s possible, let alone desirable. Very few people want humans gone from these processes. Only wealthy cryptocurrency holders and unusually intelligent anarchists and libertarians with legitimate fears of being hacked or defrauded by cybercriminals and government agents want to go through the effort it will always take to guard against the above dangers by making sure they are the only key holders of several double encrypted cold wallets in secure locations around the globe. Most people forget their e-mail password at least once a year. Expecting them to jump through hoops only to make a transaction or secure their meagre savings is foolish.
9769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: February 20, 2017, 11:02:16 PM
Bump for the hell of it, THE SKY IS FALLING SELL SELL SELL !!!
9770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Zerocoin implementation bug on: February 20, 2017, 04:18:54 PM
This is something that ends up killing the coin, we saw the same happen with DAO and now with Zerocoin. This is what differentiates a good project from a bad one, I feel sorry for those who invested and end up losing money on this one.

I don't they are idiots, I and others have been warning all along that the cornerstone of crypto is a trustless setup. PERIOD, there is no way around it.

So you fools that didn't listen pay the price as your the same ones that do it again and again and keep these thieves going.

Stop supporting poor tech and scam ICO just so you can make a quick buck and this massive fleecing will taper off.
9771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 20, 2017, 04:57:09 AM
Yeah DASH going up while HoneyPony seems stagnant is frustrating to be sure... especially for me as I did used to own some Dash (not near as much XMR though) and I dumped it a while back trying to consolidate things.  Oh well.

However let's remember here: which major end-user visible crypto exchange company is very likely to be just about to add Monero as their third coin (cough coinbase? cough) and most likely they're NOT adding Dash any time soon...?  Have you guys really thought thru *exactly* what that kind of visibility and IMPACT is really going to mean, when it happens?  Remember it's only the THIRD coin that they're adding... after BTC, ETH and then... XMR!!!

I know I know, don't count chickens till they hatch etc etc but just saying... if/when stuff like that's gonna happen to XMR these little competitive squabbles over a little DarkCoin pumpin' & dumpin' will be just amusing to look back on in this thread  Grin

Technical quality and infrastructure MATTERS!!!  Stay the course...

Does anyone remember when Coinbase added ETH?

I don't follow their site much.

I think it was right before the DAO implosion.
9772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 20, 2017, 12:32:18 AM
Now for something completely different!

This is Grate! Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8JLBq4xoAw
9773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 19, 2017, 07:18:54 PM
Bleep, the Monero premium is only 17 million currently...  Cry

I mean seriously, I wonder what's wrong - don't you be worried about this? Especially knowing that it is quite hard to dump Dark coin because it doesn't like to go down much.

I am still holding Moneros but the situation of Dark coin gaining market cap and Monero staying stable is something I guess people should be worried when it comes to the network effect.  I do not care so much about my holdings that stays the same pretty much but I am more worried about the lack of marketing which might take us in the bad situation of losing the little network effect Monero has. Who wants to buy an asset that is not rising in the price? I know there are some but I am afraid that group is minority.  Undecided

Back to blatantly preaching your Book again IC, whats the matter need to dump Dark and get back in XMR?

9774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: February 19, 2017, 06:20:24 PM
Case in point, Comic books from bronze age and older are great stores of value as well as key issues from later on. Key issues from earlier are insane stores akin to great paintings. I thought it was a good touch in "The Accountant" that along with his gold bars ,Bearer Bonds and paintings he a had a Superman #1. Lol

Well, these assets aren't purely monetary if you ask me.  You might just as well want them "to possess them", and not for the *sole* purpose of trading them later for something else.  They can have usage value, they have non-monetary utility. 

I would say that if you buy a Picasso "as an investment", but you also put it up in your living room, then that Picasso has non-monetary utility.   If you put it away in a safe and never look at it, then it is purely monetary.


It is a insurable store of value that is non taxable with the side effect of being aesthetically appealing and thereby takes up even less room than another form of store of value would take. Imagine all the hundreds it takes to purchase a Picasso and the volume that takes. You can't even get thousand dollar bills anymore! The rich have know how to hide their money in plain site forever, they are not all fools.
9775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2017 and WHY !!! on: February 19, 2017, 06:15:52 PM
For me the best alt coins to invest for this year is very easy to identify. Just always rely on the coinmarketcap.com

And depend on the coins that has big market cap and that's already going to make you choose the best alt coins.

Because many did invested into for having potential and good road map.
Yes very true, in coinmarketcap.com we can identify a coin which has a good performance. There is a complete data there to identify and can also be viewed on price charts to know altcoin who have a good fluctuation. Maybe ETH have a good potential that could be used for investment.

actually coinmarketcap.com doesn't have any extra information other than what the exchange website you are using can offer you! and also their charts are pretty bad with terrible zoom and not so accurate data because of this zoom situation.

you are better of using the exchange charts instead.

and also the fact that coinmarketcap lists altcoins based on their market cap is a bad practice in my opinion.

Not to mention  coinmarketcap should have ** ( significantly pre-mined) next to Ripple (100% premined) and Dash (massive pre/instamine). Also those scamcoins as well as others be shown in red. N00bs never even notice the asterisk anyway. It also doesn't mention coins that are centralized which n00bs don't even know why that matters. They leave out pertinent info and just add whether its mineable with an asterisk for noobs to get into mining. It's not for investment advice.
I saw that there is asterisk there but i do not understand why other altcoin have also this asterisk.
What honestly mean about asterisk i saw * right side in available supply in coinmarket cap what does it mea?

See, case in point. Do not use Coinmaretcap for Speculating it's really only goos for aggregate info if you already know what coins you are interested in. AFA what you should use well that answer is far too long for me to write out.
9776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] What Hardware and Software do you use to mine the MONERO XMR on: February 19, 2017, 06:13:19 PM
???What hardware we use for mining rig built.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjZVXPFcT6Q&t=1s

DO NOT buy this hardware for XMR mining.
9777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2017 and WHY !!! on: February 19, 2017, 06:02:33 PM
For me the best alt coins to invest for this year is very easy to identify. Just always rely on the coinmarketcap.com

And depend on the coins that has big market cap and that's already going to make you choose the best alt coins.

Because many did invested into for having potential and good road map.
Yes very true, in coinmarketcap.com we can identify a coin which has a good performance. There is a complete data there to identify and can also be viewed on price charts to know altcoin who have a good fluctuation. Maybe ETH have a good potential that could be used for investment.

actually coinmarketcap.com doesn't have any extra information other than what the exchange website you are using can offer you! and also their charts are pretty bad with terrible zoom and not so accurate data because of this zoom situation.

you are better of using the exchange charts instead.

and also the fact that coinmarketcap lists altcoins based on their market cap is a bad practice in my opinion.

Not to mention  coinmarketcap should have ** ( significantly pre-mined) next to Ripple (100% premined) and Dash (massive pre/instamine). Also those scamcoins as well as others be shown in red. N00bs never even notice the asterisk anyway. It also doesn't mention coins that are centralized which n00bs don't even know why that matters. They leave out pertinent info and just add whether its mineable with an asterisk for noobs to get into mining. It's not for investment advice.
9778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: February 19, 2017, 05:05:48 PM
I would like to add something.  When I say that crypto has no meaning inside the law, I do not mean that crypto's goal or sense is exclusively in "criminal affairs".   I say this because the law is a power tool of the (deep) state, and the state's nature is extortion.  As such, the law is a tool for extortion.  Now, the basis of state extortion is to extort on every economic interaction.   They haven't succeeded in extorting individual pleasure yet, but every economic interaction is subject to extortion, which is the basis principle of the (deep) state, who lives off what it takes away from its people.  The "blood" that makes economic interaction on any significant scale possible, is money.  A state who doesn't control the money flows, loses a significant part of its ability to extort.  As such, this is something that a (deep) state cannot allow, and will have to use its laws to control it.  The only money that can be legal, is money of which the (deep) state controls the flows.  So in as much as crypto can be law abiding, it must be controlled by the (deep) state.  At any moment, the state must be able to cut its flows, to confiscate it, to re-direct its flows.  But then it is meaningless as a crypto.


Actually they have, Where I grew up there were bars on most corners and it was great fun to bounce around them all night but the Politicians decided by forcing those bars to pay for cops at each door they would indeed be taxing our pleasure by proxy. The end result was over 50% of family owned bars all went out of business by not being able to pay the extortion fee.

PS:
@Dino
..i traded toys with other kids when i was younger.
Does that make them a currency ? Wink

If your goal was to obtain them to trade them for other toys, and not because you wanted to play with them, yes, of course.  That's exactly what a currency is: the intermediate good you only acquire (against goods and services you provide) with the aim of trading them later against goods and services you want to obtain from others, and with the belief that they will accept that intermediate good for exactly the same reasons.

You don't need to be many for that.  You only need to have a (small or big) circle of mutual believers.  The minimum is 2.

I accept a promise from you to do stuff for you if I think that you will accept that promise later against stuff you will do for me.  That promise is then our currency.


Case in point, Comic books from bronze age and older are great stores of value as well as key issues from later on. Key issues from earlier are insane stores akin to great paintings. I thought it was a good touch in "The Accountant" that along with his gold bars ,Bearer Bonds and paintings he a had a Superman #1. Lol
9779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Nobody is moving anything. The comment/link in the OP is out of date. At one time (years ago) this thread was the only place to discuss Monero, and people wanted something more Monero-focused and flexible (for example a platform to implement Monero-based crowdfunding), so that was the focus of the "move". That happened long ago, and at this point, people just discuss Monero all over the place (here, reddit, twitter, monero forum, IRC, slack, telegram, etc., etc.)


Yes, that is what I meant by "move". So, it is not really move, but spreading to other platforms as well. I have no argument against spreading the discussion to other platforms too and I welcome the fact BCT is still among these platforms. Who are the Monero developers in this forum, by the way? We all know, this platform has a kind of spaghetti view, but I want to know what answers are "official" and what are not.

Smooth is an official Dev. Smiley
9780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 18, 2017, 05:11:51 PM
Ohhh, W00ps was I right yet again?
When you think you're right, you're wrong.
And when you think you're wrong, you're mistaken.

Yup, I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken. Tongue
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