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981  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government on: August 06, 2014, 01:07:34 AM
If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt?

Why would people think it's socialist?

It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government.

I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way...

People would say they're trying to create a one world order and be communist etc where everyone has equal pay. I saw a post by a claimed 12 year old saying that he/she thought Bitcoin would give everyone equal pay.
982  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government on: August 06, 2014, 12:57:21 AM
This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues?

Its more like an anti government movement if anything.

Ok you obviously have no idea the rate technology is expanding and how creating something like Bitcoin would actually open up new ideas/paths for stopping criminals etc. Yea, I have no idea why I made this thread since the replies I've gotten are full of ignorant stupidity. It's odd how people involved in Bitcoin are supposed to be open, but they're all wearing 10 inch thick tinfoil hats.
983  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government on: August 06, 2014, 12:52:12 AM
if the government and central banks wanted to create bitcoin. they could have created it.

meaning they could have coded it behind closed doors, premined it. and the swapped their current database account system with nodes and simply accredited each account holder with a privkey that was made from their bank details and a secret seed. and fill that public address with "dollarcoin".

we would have been non the wiser of this new banking system because to us all we see is a paper bank statement and or a balance on a website or ATM screen.

the general public would have been non the wiser of what actual code makes up the bank system. we would have been non the wiser thatif banks used crypto currency as their ledger, that the data on the 'chip and pin' cards was simply a privkey and not standard bank account numbers

so if government and central banks made bitcoin, then government and banks would be using ... well an altcoin.. as their bases of accounting the ledger of account holders, as its alot easier and more secure with no single point of failure compared to the banks standard systems of this last decade.

but im afraid to tell you that governments and banks are NOT using a crypto currency based ledger system,

put it another way. sat nav was not invented by the public, it was invented by the government, and they utilized it first in secret, they made it part of their world as they seen it was better then compasses/maps/sonar. it wasnt until years later that it was released to the public and commercialized.

so going back to bitcoin. if the government made it thy would be the first to use it to standardize and secure banks and then release it out to the world later.

so please will the OP and everyone else with a conspiracy theory branded tin foil hat. please stop making up stories about something that is soooooooo open and soo transparent.. as being made by secret agencies,

your theories would hold weight if you could show evidence, but just reading your crap theories i can tell that you have not even bothered to read the white paper, or read the code or read any of the open communications of the last 5 years between developers. you have no clue at all. i bet you have not read more then 2 messages posted on this forum by satoshi (although there are hundreds more. )

so before you make another crack pot theory, atleast do some research and provide links, atleast make the crack pot theory entertaining with an image.. just do something other than make crack pot theories.

TOR is in part funded by a government owned entity.

 I'm saying that the government simply realized that the USD could/would collapse on itself after a while(as shown by the recession in 2008 in America and more), and that the government used the codename, Satoshi Nakamoto(which is a very common name in Japan, similar to Europe's "John Smith"), to put Bitcoin out to the world.

It does make sense, considering according to a article I read a while back, only 300 people in the world could of created Bitcoin back in 2009. The NSA has the worlds smartest minds working for it, and with extensive reach. I find it very plausible that Satoshi Nakamoto is simply a codename for the Bitcoin project made by the government/branch of government. It's also very likely that Satoshi was more than one person, given his extensive use of the word "our". It also explains why Satoshi made it a top priority to Hide his tracks, so he wouldn't be found.

It's either the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto worked for a branch of the government and made Bitcoin and released it to the world, or the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto is one hell of a genius who has extreme expertise in cryptography, which would make you question where he got his knowledge from(government, university?)
984  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government on: August 05, 2014, 10:57:23 PM
Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate.

With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public.

Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin.
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin Holders: Will you continue to hold or convert to Bitcoin? on: August 05, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
Difficulty: 24425.1 as more and more asic scrypt miners are produced diff will continue to climb, once bitcoin enters the institutional space, litecoin will follow soon after! All those hedge funds and pension funds will eventually have to invest in crypto and after Bitcoin, Litecoin will be second best choice. Hold your litecoins!

Yea, litecoin, which offers nothing over Bitcoin besides a stupid name and silver logo, and having no unique features of it's own(also being in a downtrend for almost a year), is gonna be the second best choice? In a alternate universe maybe, but not this one.
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: August 05, 2014, 08:56:59 PM
this coin needs a relaunch, with a different/better name and different algorithm, maybe cryptonite algo from cryptonote coins.(since gpu there is 1:1 with cpu), as its pretty obvious that this coin has had a GPU miner/s from launch.
Similar to doomcoin only worse , at least with doom the released the GPU miners relatively soon and fairly to all people who read the forum and also on the main thread
these a$holes refuse to release the miner until what they have the 90% of the supply ?  Screw this coin lol.

I deleted my quote after reading that within 3 months, the coins mined at launch will only be 1% of the coin supply and within a year, less than 0.05% . So it's not really bad.
987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MAX] MaxCoin - Alive and Kickin' on: August 05, 2014, 08:48:37 PM
Maxcoin has No features.

Maxcoin has No community

Maxcoin has No adoption

Maxcoin has No working developers/development team

Maxcoin has No exchange support/buyers, having been delisted from most of the exchanges it was previously on because of having No buyers, but tons of sellers which = no trading going on.

This coin is only a pump and dump by Max Keiser(who abandoned this coin to go and make Startcoin/Startjoin), there has been No development on this coin at all, and there is no development team working on this coin.

Maxcoin is dead and has been for a long time.
988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Limit. on: August 04, 2014, 04:15:28 PM
ok all you speculators. lets update you..

the bitcoin price spiked multiple times for the last 5 years because it was nice and easy to get dollars into exchanges to buy bitcoin. but this year all the exchanges are starting to put dollar limits on deposits,etc.

so will you atleast add that into your speculative equations.

for example 1 person depositing $50k could move the price from $200 to $220 all by himself last year. but now with max deposits of $10k and the price being averaged at $600. it will take 15 people to simultaneously buy in to cause a price rise of $20 in a short period.

so do not expect big movements from new investors. expect smaller movements from medium investors or lots of micro investors. that is of course, if we can atleast convince miners to stop selling on exchanges at a loss..

 we are no longer in the game where investors throw lots of dollars at exchanges to buy coin. we are now in the game where investors throw lots of dollars at private trades, which SLOWLY reduces the number of sales on exchanges, due to the bitcoins being sold privately instead. which still helps a price rise, just much more slowly.

good luck with your maths and predictions.

You're forgetting to include unforseen possibilities. Such as a billionaire or millionaire buying "shitloads" of BTC in a relatively short time. Even one person buying $2,000,000 worth of BTC will rise the price by over $100. Imagine if a small amount of millionaires decide to invest  a few million in BTC(not in off the book trades), the price will rise dramatically.
989  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC.com bought by GAW Miners for 1.1 milion USD on: August 04, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
WOW!

Bitcoin is gonna have a trillion dollar marketcap most likely anyway, so this is probably "cheap" compared to what it would be in the future.
990  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: i want to give 100 BTC to one user on bitcointalk. tell me why it is U. on: August 04, 2014, 02:54:39 AM
Give me the 100 BTC and I'll give you 10,000 BTC in return
991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinDesk censors Monero, loses credibility on: August 03, 2014, 11:51:16 PM


Coindesk is paid to do articles. I've seen them do articles on the absolute stuidest of coins and subjects. I have no doubt that the devs of coins simply pay Coindesk to make a article on their coin. It's all revolving around money.


That shows how stupid Bitcoin news sites are. We need a actual newssource that isn't biased like Coindesk.
992  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The most Overused Words in Bitcoin History on: August 03, 2014, 11:47:43 PM
I've noticed, at least on 90% of all threads I've been on, that bitcoiners tend to overuse a lot of buzzwords. Altcoiners Especially tend to use Innovation/Innovative for some reason as well  Roll Eyes. The most used words and phrases I've seen are:

1) Innovative

2) Decentralized

3) Centralized

4) Innovation

5) To the Moon

6) Scam

7) FUD

8.) HODL

9) Satoshi

10) ASIC

11) Revolutionary

12) Blockchain

I heard of a new revolutionary, innovative new blockchain idea, that turns cetralized money into decentralized Innovation that could litereally go to the moon, but only if the fudsters are wrong about this scam and Satoshi really hodls his coins that were mined without ASICs.

Haha!  Grin
993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A question about crypto-currencies from a 12 year old on: August 03, 2014, 04:55:05 PM

I am intrigued as to why you are pretending to be a 12-year-old.
I'm afraid your vocabulary and grasp of sociopolitics betrays you.
More than that, the naive-like pretense you displayed in the opening post contrasts sharply with the subsequent ones.
I'm curious to see where this thread will eventually led to.


I as well, OP is probably doing this just for "fun" to see what kind of reactions he'd get from pretending to be a 12 year old with a large array of vocabulary and understanding. He's obviously not 12.
994  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / The most Overused Words in Bitcoin History on: August 03, 2014, 04:19:44 PM
I've noticed, at least on 90% of all threads I've been on, that bitcoiners tend to overuse a lot of buzzwords. Altcoiners Especially tend to use Innovation/Innovative for some reason as well  Roll Eyes. The most used words and phrases I've seen are:

1) Innovative

2) Decentralized

3) Centralized

4) Innovation

5) To the Moon

6) Scam

7) FUD

8.) HODL

9) Satoshi

10) ASIC

11) Revolutionary

12) Blockchain

13) Skyrocket

14) Troll

15) Fiat

16) Pump and Dump

17) Whale

18) Goxxed

19) Ponzi

20) Anonymous

21) Bitcoin

22) Cryptocurrency

23) Premine

24) Dev
995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The chance of Dogecoin reaching $1 on: August 02, 2014, 10:14:17 PM
BUT it can still happen!


So Dogecoin to tha mooooooooooooooooon!!!!!!

 Grin
996  Economy / Goods / Re: Lamborghini Gallardo spyder 2008 trade for 262 bit coins on: August 02, 2014, 04:21:01 PM
Ill buy it for 14 bitcoin right now  Tongue
997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / The chance of Dogecoin reaching $1 on: August 02, 2014, 03:01:19 PM
The chance of Dogecoin reaching $1 is the same chance as getting hit by lightning 50 times every 3 minutes for 365 days on end, while simultaneously banging 30 different supermodels at the same time with the extra 60 penises you grew(both holes tapped), along with becoming president of the universe and having Goku, Vegeta, and Vladimir Putin as your bodyguards

AKA

It's a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of happening.
998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: August 01, 2014, 09:49:50 PM
You're intentionally creating a system where a small number of insiders get an advantage. I'm not saying you can't do it, just don't purport to call such a situation fair. No one forced you to use a crippled hash, a little bit of effort at the start could have prevented this.

I will call such a situation fair.  And I will be correct, because it's 100% organic and natural for a small number of insiders to get an advantage.  Dr. Nakamoto is the prime example of this.  He deserves every Satoshi he mined, not some looting second-hander mewling for more free stuff.

What isn't natural is your utopian idea that everyone can be completely equal, without distinction, and that such an arrangement has sole claim to being "fair."

That doesn't mean that you should purposefully create even more unfair environment. It's about giving the coin a chance to succeed by using a PoW that many people can mine and hold, not just a small insider miner group who has 90% of the net hash because small time miners stop mining. This will just invite a fork that uses an established algo to take over. And, who knows what this 51%+ of total hash in the hands of an insider group can do.

And, regarding the 10 or 20 year mining period and how much the first 6 months or a year matters - well, I doubt anybody really expects any of these coins to exist in 10 or 20 years, the insider mining group is looking to liquidate asap most likely and move on to the next exotic PoW launch.

Thing is, a unfair environment was Not created purposefully, since the issue was fixed within a very short time period. I agree with icebreaker, this is no perfect world, as perfection is impossible.
999  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which Bitcoin logo do you prefer? [I want your input for a study] on: July 31, 2014, 04:59:36 AM
Classic obviously, it actually looks like a symbol for a currency.

The "Alternative" one looks like the letter B with some dumb line through the bottom of it, plain stupid.
1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: July 31, 2014, 03:53:26 AM
if this is so, someone explain to me step-wise and drastic increase in litecoin difficulty level despite "obsolete" scrypt

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/litecoin-difficulty-chart

Hashrate/difficulty doesn't necessarily mean the coin is useful, ASICs got added to the network recently, miners hoping to get a ROI. Not useful = dead. It paused falling for now, nothing falls in a straight line, but it'll resume its fall soon. Miners hoping to get a ROI doesn't necessarily mean they will get it.

I agree, those ASIC miners will simply dump all their litecoins(as weve been seeing) to gain profit/break even, thus reducing the price. Litecoin will fall into oblivion.
This is an interesting point.
Further, as the price of LTC stagnates and more and more of these ASIC rigs come out, who is going to be buying them? How many of the "farms" will be by the actual producers?
I say fewer individuals will be buying them and more producers will be putting them to use. How deep are their pockets? (Meaning can they sit on them hoping for a higher price? I don't think so.)
Now, when they try to sell them, is the demand there? Lots of LTC are mined every day and with a falling price, volume and interest - this could get interesting, ugly or who knows what.


LTC has huge lack of buyers/demand, shown by the falling prices.
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