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981  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: April 18, 2017, 10:33:37 AM
Gambling can be wrong and not, if we play gambling without responsibility and losing control
 the gambling game will be wrong for be played,
but if we play gambling with calculate all of risk losing money and we can take control it
gambling is good place for have fun and entertainment.

there must be a clear stance in gambling if we want to enjoy the business, if it thinks it halfheartedly our profits will also be divided into half with the defeat, emotional control is a very influential factor, but it will always appear when we lose. If we want to get more profit, we must discard think about having fun and a hobby, because this is a business that can be seriously considered.

You are completely wrong mate, Don't think gambling is a business. If you believe that gambling will give you profit in the long term then you are mistaken. You can ask anyone no one will give assurance that gambling will give profit. Because gambling is not a business, it is a just time pass game. If you make any profit, it's just because of your luck.
982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: April 18, 2017, 10:27:16 AM
It really is a great idea if you win you can pay your debt without even touching your own money,
But what about if you lose it will just make things worst you will be in a bigger debt so I think I would never do it.

That's ridiculous why you need to use others money if you already had something on your own? It's not a good idea if you are going to think that way and just simply win back or even grow that money from others. It's a crazy thing if you will do this because it's either you'll lose someones trust and even forget you because of this immature move.

That is really ridiculous, that is an idiotic way to think or make ways to earn profit. If you can't afford to gamble, why gamble in the first place if you can't afford it? Please stop think these way because it will be the reason of your own downfall. If you will be borrowing money, don't use it to gamble, start a business and make a profit there.

Those pal surely are risk takers and they don't care whether the money they are going to gamble does not belongs to them. We can't stop those people that are borrowing money just to gamble, it's fine if they are going to borrow because that has permission but if they are going to use other's money without telling the owner their reason for borrowing, it's wrong.

We can't stop that kind of gamblers if anyone borrows money from others and invested in gambling means he/she fully addicted to gambling. No one can stop them. And they don't care for anyone advice. There the only intention is bet and wins big money. But it is not possible in gambling. Seriously this kind of gamblers life where it will end, i don't know.
983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: April 18, 2017, 10:22:33 AM
in fact the gamble you could lose everything you have and even self-esteem, and vice versa, if you win from gambling you can get everything, so I think if you ask how much losing gamble, I guess it's something that may sound very surprising and may make desperate. Cheesy

Of course, every gamblers have taste of losing, without losing gambling is incomplete. But only few gamblers are here who play gambling with profit wise. Because they know the skills to play gambling, i mean in sports betting. Also only few gamblers have luck. But about me, i am earning from gambling, but instead of it i also have lose.

Losing money is common in gambling. Yup without having this taste no one will become a perfect gambler. And most experienced gambler also gets many losses in a row. And in gambling very rare people will make a long run profit, that too in only skill games. Casino games are not profitable in the long term.
984  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Daily use of bitcoin? on: April 17, 2017, 05:43:57 PM
well i pay to my helpers all the time using bitcoin and nobody minds the 20-30 minutes of approvles as we know its an important part of the process so i dont see the issue

So are you paying your employees in bitcoins? And what kind of help they do for you its a great to know that your employees agreed to get paid in bitcoins and delay in confirmation is not a big deal as finally people are getting money in their wallet and that is more important.

Sounds like pretty good, seriously are you paying your employees through Bitcoin. It is nice to hear this type of improvisation in bitcoin. Slowly people are addicting to this bitcoin. yes confirmation delay is not a big deal. We should appreciate your employees they are accepting bitcoin as their payment.
985  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: April 17, 2017, 05:38:40 PM
The whole concept of cryptocurrencies is to make the best way possible to secure the transfer and ownership of money. Of course, there are several levels of security, when you are talking about in the way you access your BTC. (Hot/Cold) wallets, paper wallets, hardware wallets, exchanges, all have good/bad features. Use them wisely.
There is no system that is perfect, therefore hacking could be possible and they are preventing this hacks by improving their
security from time to time. Most of the target of hacks are exchanges but people are more wiser now due to experience, they
do not put their money in one wallet, they diversify it.

I don't even bother hodling anymore...just spend it immediately. Minimal risk that way.
That's right but looking at the growth and future of bitcoins I think we should also save some of them for future as if price goes higher in coming years then it will give us good amount of money if we have saved good amount of bitcoins.
It's good to save but save what you can afford only, there is a big potential the value will increase and if you are willing
to bet on that potential, you should start investing now. What good with bitcoin is the return is awesome, you are guaranteed
a minimum of 100% a year if you invest based on trend only.

That's right and bitcoin is getting stronger and stronger day by day so if we can hold it for a long term then I think we can afford to invest in it even at current rate as the price in next year would be surely higher then what we are seeing at a moment.

Most probable to have a big increase on BTC price since now until the next year, maybe we can hit nice values like $2000 or $3000. It's always time to buy Bitcoins, the price is always becoming bigger on long term, so you don't need to worry if it's pricing $1200 now, what is a good amount, but it will become even better. It's the most safe profit on the Crypto Currency world.
You are expectation too high 3000$ do you think it is possible? I don't believe it is possible. Maybe the price will hit 2000$, but it takes more time to hit $3k. just check last year price and present price it almost double. So I think it may cross 2000$ but not reach $3k. But investing on Bitcoin will give goo profit.
986  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: April 17, 2017, 05:13:53 PM
yes, you can make constant earning through bitcoin trading. you must aware of daily updates and current market trend of bitcoin.

you can get constan profit with bitcoin trading
but you never fix income same op want can get fix income, example 1000 dollar/month
trading is fluctuative income but you can get always earning from trading
I don't think bitcoin trading will give you always profit because there are times bitcoin will decrease and it take months before it will pump again so that's not always profit

Yes either bitcoin trading nor altcoin trading will give you fixed income as you will be also making loss in it which will lead to have negative or no income so you can never expect steady and stable income from trading.

Altcoin trading may give some fixed income because altcoin price will be very high fluctuate in the market. But don't think the same thing will happen in BTC trading. As a mate sometimes said it will take few months to go up or down in BTC price, in that situation, we must wait for the right time to sell or buy bitcoins. So in BTC trading don't expect some fixed profit, it will give profit but takes some time.
987  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Professional Trader on: April 17, 2017, 05:09:21 PM
Beginners very often panic and want to earn easy money, but you can not give in to gambling otherwise you can lose all your money and be disappointed in the trade. To begin with, you need to be ready to spend time learning and maybe for the first time in practice you will have to lose some of the funds in order to gain experience and become a professional trader.

First, must be set our goal to become a professional trader in future. Hard working is the most efficient method of learning about trading. There does not require a lot of capital only meet some requirement - Analyze trading behavior, good activities on marketplace, follow those who already proved himself like this, anyone can trade like a professional trader.

Don't set any target, just learn all methods in trading, if you lose some money also don't worry you will recover it in next trade. It is possible in trading. Every mistake in trading will teach you a new lesson. So to become professional in trading, you should trade and solve all problems. When you will never get lost in trading long term. Then you become a professional trader.
988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: April 17, 2017, 05:00:10 PM
Today we have 2 matches, KKR vs. DD, and both teams are strong in both batting and bowling. DD got good allrounders in their teams I think DD will win this game.

SRH vs Kings Punjab. Both teams won 2 matches equally today's win help one team to take the lead in this series. I think SRH have a chance to win this game.

I think Punjab team is stronger this session. They use to be a very weak team in last few session but this time they are showing good performance than RCB. In this session, the worst team is RCB but got many good players in the team.

In another match, I think KKR will win the match because I believe they are stronger than DD team. But anyway these IPL matches are mostly fixed so it is not so easy to guess the results just based on their performance. To keep all matches exciting to collect more ticket money they will do many things which we don't know.
yes we saw many fixing issues in this IPl we can not trust any team easily in this IPL series. But these games are very exciting and entertainment games.

DD won the toss and elected to bat first, 63/2, 8 overs completed. KKR captain is in good form he can not lose the match easily. I think KKR may win this game. Another game my pick is SRH.

21/3 already and Gambhir got out. I would go for Daredevils now because it's not that easy now to reach the target. Knight riders may need some strong partnership to win and it will be an uphill battle against Delhi.

Its not a big total to chase but KKR have lost early wickets so it won't be easy now for them to chase down the total and now KKR needs good partnership to get back in the game so much will depend on the innings from pandey and pathan.
It wasn't difficult until Yousuf was in the crease but as soon as he got out things started to get difficult for KKR . Manish Pandey held his nerves and got the victory for KKR , DD needed this win but KKR did well at the end , it was an interesting match .
Yousuf and Manish helped KKR to win this match, last 5 overs it was very interesting especially in last over first 2 balls no runs and 1 wicket still 9 runs required to win. Manish handled that situation very easily to hitting six. i was enjoyed a lot in this game. Congrats to KKR.

Punjab vs Hyderabad, so boring match, I don't know it is bowling pitch or batsman are not playing well. Looks like Punjab is going to win this game let's see.
989  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Number of Bitcoin users. on: April 15, 2017, 11:32:09 AM
It doesn't matter how many members are using bitcoin, the value of bitcoin matter because once members are increasing the value of bitcoin will increase always. It is very hard to calculate based on their address because many people are using more than 1 address, so it is very hard to predict.
I think you are wrong the value will not decide on members, the value will be diced based on how many transactions were done. But the bitcoin price is the main source to attract more new people to get in this bitcoin world. Yes, we can not predict exactly how many members are using Bitcoin.
990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 15, 2017, 11:22:50 AM
Murray is participating in the Monte Carlo tournament . Really sad to see Nishikori struggling and missing tournaments due to injury , he is the only one representing Asia right now and this isn't good news for his fans . Great chance for Nadal to win the tournament and get to top 5 .

I can`t agree more with you about that. Nadal is playing great this last 3 months. There are still Wawrinka and Murray as a favorites here but I think that Rafa could get this one. It would be big deal for his self-esteem,clay season has just began...
Don't forget Djokovic , he is all set to make a great comeback in this tournament and unfortunately he is in Nadal's quarter ( in the draw) . See this for more info -> http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/nadal-murray-djokovic-monte-carlo-2017-draw
I will love to see Nadal winning this title again for two consecutive year. This is the clay court, this is what he best of, so he not gonna suppose to disappoint us again right? Djokovic, who won this title 2 years ago, now he have the chance to meet Nadal. However, I don't think he is a threat, if there is a threat to Nadal, it should be Roger Federer, but unfortunately he won't be playing this tournament.
Yes this is good chance to win this cup for Nadal, he is in superb form from last 3 months, and he reached a couple of tournament finals, but he missed the chance to win the title. I think in this tournament he will win titile. I have more confidence in Nadal, and i hope this time he will not disappoint for me.
It is good to see both Nadal and Djokovic in the same quarter, And Federer is the main threat, but he is not playing this is good news for Nadal. Murray is playing in this tournament we can not Lev him because he is number one player. Most of the people believe in Nadal to win this cup don't know who will win. All the best for all players and betters.
991  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you think is a good time to start trading ? on: April 15, 2017, 11:12:31 AM
with a capital I think it's pretty much for trading, you can see a variety of coin on ploniex, I suggest you old coin trading course

start trading when you're willing ready to take the risk and ready for all the consequenses. start trading when you have the capability and enough knowledge of the market situation. its not just having big capital per se, it needs full understanding of what might gonna happen in the long run.
Yeah , because if you are not ready if anything happens and you just bought because you want earn income without any research or knowledge in mind you will only loss money and be dissapointed .i am ready to take risk and trade but the only problem is money for me to start.
To start trading we don't need big bankroll, and you can start with a small amount. And it is good to start trading with the small amount you will learn how the trading works in real world. And if you lose money also no problem you learn the mistakes and how to do safe trading next time.
992  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: April 15, 2017, 11:06:09 AM
Dealing with loss is hard to swallow specially if you lost big amount of your investment. if will impact your daily lives because its so stressful. The better way to deal with it is just totally forgot it and try to start from scratch. Because if it's always on your mind, you will be out of focus and will just think of recovering your loss.
Getting loss and profit are common in all business, so dealing with loss is not a big matter if you know the proper business, Yup in any business sometimes we will get loss we have to manage that otherwise don't enter this kind of business. Controlling your emotions and patience is the only way to deal your loss.
993  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: if someday the network internet totally dead . on: April 14, 2017, 12:31:47 PM
We could use other facilities. Every problem has a solution, mate.

Exactly, we need to find other option because once the door is closed it indicates that another door is opening for us.
Sometimes it is unpredictable because there are millions and millions of dollars invested in the network industry, so it is a great disappointment for the people who dependent on the internet.

in this days, On millennial days that everyone depends on internet ,it will be a headache once it gone, Having slow internet is already a problem ,what else if its gone? Though this quite impossible yet to happen but if ever hoping that by that time there were developed things, apps were we can do transaction on btw without internet.

We can not imagine that situation in our dream also. Now this world is addicted to the internet, if it is not there all business will stop suddenly and people mind will not run if it happens suddenly. Yes, there is a solution for every problem, but if we want to fix this problem means it will take years to solve this issue.
994  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin money? on: April 14, 2017, 12:25:34 PM
Some consider bitcoin as commodity like gold and they just use it as an investment.Thats why they say it as Digital Gold.
Some say bitcoin as money since it is used to buy any products just like money and so they consider it as money.More over,just like money,it is also used for transactions.
Since Bitcoin has both the features,we can say it as both money as well as commodity.

This shows that bitcoin is a hybrid of both traditional fiat currency and a digital currency. It has a large acceptance and so the price of bitcoin is very high considering the local currencies. Thus people want to buy and sell bitcoin and make profits out of trading. it is also used a currency but I think usage as a trading material is more than as a currency because in many countries bitcoin is not yet popular and not many merchants accept it.
Bitcoin is not a hybrid, it's a technology, a whole new product, and it's the start of all virtual currency. We can say that it is the basis of all other altcoins. Acceptance of bitcoin is just a manifestation of people's love for it. Countries have seen the potential of bitcoin, so they legalized and implemented it.

Bitcoin is completely new terminology and technology which indicates virtual currency, today many countries are becoming a digital world with the help of internet. So bitcoin is going to be another history in the internet world, already many countries are using bitcoin as one of the payment options and treating it as money.

Yes now all countries are started to convert their country to digitalized, so this is good news for Bitcoin, if it happens then bitcoin become more popular in with short periods of time. I heard that some countries are allowed to do Bitcoin trading legally. so one day they will accept this bitcoin as their payment mode.
995  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: April 14, 2017, 12:18:00 PM
RCB have gotten off to a sedate start (by T20 standards) against Mumbai Indians. They have scored 62/0 in 9 overs.
They have the power to accelerate in the remaining overs and have wickets in hand.

They have to start hitting now. RCB score right now is 110/1 after 15 overs. Their both punch hitters are batting and that is a good news for them but they have to start hitting right now otherwise it'll be too low score to defend in front of the mighty Mumbai Indians batting line up.

Tremendous bowling from Mumbai Indians. RCB made just 142 runs. They are not a hit single boundary in last 5 overs. This is really a shocking performance from RCB. all credits goes to MI bowlers. This is an easy target for MI to chase this score. They got strong batting line up, so I think this match will end very soon. This is a clear win to MI.
996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: April 14, 2017, 12:10:52 PM
When it's about probability, it's impossible and you have to base it on minimising your losses, and you could use a Martingale strategy for that to make it unlikely that you'll lose a significant amount of money.

When it's skill, the only important thing is to practice a lot with smaller amounts and never get hyped enough about a game to put a huge amount of your money into only one.

No, martingale it's not recommendable anymore and it's up to you if you are still going to use this method. Because for me, if you want to win in gambling you should only choose those games that will give you high chance of winning. Just like in sports betting, if you have a good analysis for each match, that can be a good factor.

Martingale was never rcommendable. The odds when using martingale never changed.

In a perfect setting with unlimited funds and inlimited bet size, martingale is actually going to make you money.

The problem is a losing streak of 10-15 is usually enough to bust most bankrolls. At that point you are already risking over 1000 times your initial bet just ot win your initial bet.

You are talking about betting with 50% winning chance probably so I want to add that I've seen 20 reds in a row playing with those odds. If that happens you can lose over 1 Bitcoin with initial bet as low as 100 Satoshis. So it wouldn't be exaggeration to say that with martingale on 50/50 you are risking 1,000,000 times your initial bet.

Yes that is when you use a martin gale strategy. When I started gambling, I tried using martin gale. I was shocked and could not believe that I lost 14 times in a row at 50/50 chance to win. Then as I go, I realize that this is a flawed strategy and it will never ever win anything in the long run. You could probably get a few wins.

I don't know how we get that long back to back losses when we use martingale method, In normal betting at least after 4 or 5 loss, we will get one win in the middle. If we use this method, it's not possible. I have doubt that casino will find out this method strategy or what I am not understanding. But martingale strategy will not work all people it also works for only lucky gamblers.
997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: April 14, 2017, 12:01:32 PM
Perhaps a good way for you to control your greed in gambling is to limit or set your deposit. If you want to start gambling in a casino try to deposit some of your money around 25%. If you continue to gamble and your money runs out you will be easy to stop because your deposit has runs out, and returned a few weeks. Or perhaps a better way is to stop when winning, although little had to stop and come back next time.

Setting a deposit is indeed a good way to start off. Then setting a limit to how much you want to win is another step which will give you the end of your gambling whenever you reach that points. If you lose everything, don't deposit anymore and just move on. That's how easy it should be and never ever chase your losses.

People do all these things before starting gambling, but after the game started all plan will change automatically. Most of the people will not follow their plans, and they will lose their control while playing gambling. So we have to stick with our plans, and we must follow that then only it is possible to control our greed in gambling.
998  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: April 13, 2017, 08:42:31 AM
i think the kids will learn about bitcoin in the same way as they learn about fiat so if we teach that bitcoin is also a currency and is working the same as fiat and teach them about the use of bitcoin in different places then they will star to use bitcoin as they are using fiat

Almost of the posts are agreeing to teaching a kid about bitcoin, which is really ridiculous. Bitcoin will never be a good topic to kids especially the boy ones because they usually love to go out and play, as a teacher I will not teach my children a way that they mah not experience their childhood. We must never force children to learn about it because they have their own will, and they don't need to be forced. Let the kids do what they want, their children after all.

Agreed that is not the best time to teach them about bitcoins as it will be really confusing for them at that age and we should see in what kids are interested and should give that first priority instead of forcing them into bitcoins.

In the early age, we teach kids how to earn free money it will be effected to their future life. So better don't teach to your kids lev them to learn the basic things what they want to learn in early age. Once they are grown up, they only learn about this Bitcoin. And teaching what is Bitcoin to elders is big tough, so how can we teach this to our kids is it possible?
999  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: April 13, 2017, 08:36:57 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas
In my opinion the best way for the steady income to have a job in any field regardless of the your interest .
Here the best thing for you to have continuous work for the job even your earning is small .
And then start to invest your small earning in the trading and altcoins or coin holding. .
In this way you can gain a big steady income in the bitcoin and altcoins earning field .
So here just start your small earning and turn into big  instead to go big directly without hardwork .
Beside of this start to give lending at Poloniex like exchange and get earning limited small earning ( as an steady income ) .
Earning Bitcoins in the Signature campaign is also a steady income. This safe and secure and no need to invest your money. Just do hard work and earn coins. Other than this put your skills in service section you will get the order you just complete the work and get your payment through Bitcoin this is easy and no investment.
1000  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: April 13, 2017, 08:32:32 AM
to me there is no strategy in investment.
i just try my luck, I predict whether the investment will grow or not.  Roll Eyes

yes like you i dont have strategy in investing my bitcoin because i scared to lose my bitcoin im always hold it and look forward if bitcoin increasing because i have chance to trade what i want example in goods ,clothes  etc .


if you're just being in your comfort zone and do not dare to take risks. I think you'll never be rich and successful. because no rich produced easily and for a coward

Don't tell like that mate, who knows what problem they have in their life. Maybe they can not afford if they lose money in an investment or any other business that is why they are taking the risk. But I agree if we do not take risk we can not grow in any business, for this, we can not put our family members in risk right.
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