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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: October 05, 2017, 01:23:34 PM
Okay so they have now announced presale on 8/10 good decision.I am sure will be sold out.Lets see if I can make it

Oh... I missed announse.
Any more details? Which bonuses, price, min contribution etc?

You can either go to page 157 or click this link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2061671.3120  All the info is listed by the 2nd poster on that page

No whitelisting, no kyc/aml and US residents can participate? Well that is strange...

Actually, it's not strange. what you have is an ICO done right. No favors to rich, everyone can fairly acquire a piece of the pie. (pun intended) As for the US Citizens, everyone knows that if you don't offer a product that pays dividend and you not involved in anything shady, thus having a reason to hide, then there is no reason to exclude your ICO from united state citizens. so offering it to U.S citizens should be an extra  proof that you dealing with a reliable company that is willing to endure the scrutinizing from SEC and such.
982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SOMA - The Social Marketplace on: October 05, 2017, 01:17:40 PM
Every project was in early stages. There was time when people were saying that Ebay is crap and Facebook is just another overhyped project which won't last more than one year  Smiley

What? I am still saying that. Ebay is crap and Facebook is overhyped. Okay, shorting Facebook was maybe not such a good idea in hindsight, but let's see if they still exist next year.
Is high time innovators proved that they have what it takes to stand head to head with Elon musk, Bill gates and the rest, now that crowdfunding is available. Crowdfunding should produce more millionaire with great ideas in coming years, and encourage people with great minds to make their idea presentable. Crowdfunding will get tougher in coming years also because some of this projects are bound to fail, so investors will require more than just a whitepaper from project teams

It's sad but it seems like crowd funding esp in the cryptospace has produced more millionaires with useless ideas than otherwise. Anyway, seriously doubt that failed companies will massively curtail investors activity. As long as ppl can flip their investment, most could care less about the validity of the proposed tech/platform. Anyway as more countries toughen up on ico that should hopefully help out.
983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: October 05, 2017, 01:10:41 PM
Okay so they have now announced presale on 8/10 good decision.I am sure will be sold out.Lets see if I can make it

Oh... I missed announse.
Any more details? Which bonuses, price, min contribution etc?

You can either go to page 157 or click this link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2061671.3120  All the info is listed by the 2nd poster on that page
984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SOMA - The Social Marketplace on: October 05, 2017, 01:06:14 PM
Every project was in early stages. There was time when people were saying that Ebay is crap and Facebook is just another overhyped project which won't last more than one year  Smiley

What? I am still saying that. Ebay is crap and Facebook is overhyped. Okay, shorting Facebook was maybe not such a good idea in hindsight, but let's see if they still exist next year.

Ebay and facebook had a successful working platform, before they approached the public for investments. Both of this platform, can't claim that. Again, it's not a bad thing cos it seem that this is the new way of raising capital now, but it's unfair to compare this companies with the aforementioned.
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: October 05, 2017, 12:58:32 PM
Great news about the presale!!
8 October is now in my agenda.

Bonus: TBA. There will be a bonus for smaller contributors to benefit from. We want to prevent “pumping and dumping” from happening and you won’t see anything astronomic like in some other tokensales out there. PayPie is legit and we want contributors that are in it for its real value proposition.

Thats a nice argument.
Investors in this project can be sure the price wont go lower then the ICO price because of the little bonus structure. The bonus that will be applied will benefit real investors who will not dump the bonus tokens.

Great work team

It's a nice initiative by paypie. Nobody takes care of small investors. Everyone wants to attract whales only.

Leave to an accountant to understand there is strength in numbers. Though i will like to add that nothing can prevent a coin price from going lower than ICO price. You will always have investors that are unable to hold, but tactics employed will at least minimize effect from ico pnd teams/whales
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: October 05, 2017, 12:48:18 PM
Great news about the presale!!
8 October is now in my agenda.

Bonus: TBA. There will be a bonus for smaller contributors to benefit from. We want to prevent “pumping and dumping” from happening and you won’t see anything astronomic like in some other tokensales out there. PayPie is legit and we want contributors that are in it for its real value proposition.

Thats a nice argument.
Investors in this project can be sure the price wont go lower then the ICO price because of the little bonus structure. The bonus that will be applied will benefit real investors who will not dump the bonus tokens.

Great work team

It's a nice initiative by paypie. Nobody takes care of small investors. Everyone wants to attract whales only.
I like approach and I hope that this precautions can prevent dumping coins after the end of ICO. This is probably the first project with that clever ideas!

Yes this is a good first step but believing that you can prevent pump and dump from happening just doesn't work in crypto. It is just a question of time in my eyes until pump and dump can also happen to PayPie.

Yes! I've just talked about this with my friends that the current way of doing the things is toxic and unfair. Thanks for doing this the right way!

Hey No-ice, PND is inevitable, after all we dealing with commerce. The ace is they trying to minimize the negative effect it could have and also partially guarantee that funds is evenly distributed to early investors.
987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SOMA - The Social Marketplace on: October 04, 2017, 04:44:33 PM
really, if someone was still not impressed by this news, i cannot help them Smiley

now it is the time to get ready for buying some tokens!

Both companies have a zero working platform and yet to prove that they can deliver on proposed idea, so I don't blame anyone that might be skeptical of the partnership. After all you have two newbie companies going thru an ico with no tangible product. anyway, watching to see how the partnership improves each platform
988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: October 04, 2017, 01:22:39 PM
people. Can I ask a question? If I want use napoleonx to trade my coin on poloniex. does I need install anysoftware or just give napoleonx my api? dont use any bot before so I'm noob

Unfortunately our bots will be only encapsulated in the DAFs we are going to launch as some of them will trade real assets. There will need to be a proper set up to have the bots running and also we do not want to give away our knowhow like this. The DAFs will "rent" the bots against the 25% performance fees, designed as boton.

So to answer your question, you will not be able to use our bots to trade on your own cryptos on any exchange. Only the DAFs will benefit from them and they will pay for this service. 85% of the proceeds will then be channeled to the NPX token holders provided they participate in the governance of NapoleonX.

So, basically we give you our money to trade with and we get our money back plus interest after a profitable trade has been made?

That's what I understood through this answer. You will give them what you want to trade and then the DAFs are working with it. I am wondering, if we put our money, what ever, into the DAFs, is there something like a time limit we could set up in which the DAFs could trade our invests until they have to pay back?

Well, am confused now, why should i buy and hold the coins then? Also why the heck have we been praising and shilling the bot that we won't ever get to use or see in action/
989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: October 04, 2017, 01:13:27 PM
The use of blockchain introduces transparency that is currently absent from the usual form. So blockchain when utilized efficiently can be useful for almost everything out there. Also without accounting, there will be no commerce. So you better start falling in love with accounting really fast.

There are lots of things out there that are currently being implemented very effectively and efficiently without the use of blockchain.
Introducing these things into the blockchain does not add value significantly to it.

If you dealing in business that can gain from improved transparency, then blockchain will add a significant value to it. And i can't think of any legal means that can't use a little more transparency. So plz do wise me up
990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: October 04, 2017, 01:10:25 PM
people. Can I ask a question? If I want use napoleonx to trade my coin on poloniex. does I need install anysoftware or just give napoleonx my api? dont use any bot before so I'm noob

Unfortunately our bots will be only encapsulated in the DAFs we are going to launch as some of them will trade real assets. There will need to be a proper set up to have the bots running and also we do not want to give away our knowhow like this. The DAFs will "rent" the bots against the 25% performance fees, designed as boton.

So to answer your question, you will not be able to use our bots to trade on your own cryptos on any exchange. Only the DAFs will benefit from them and they will pay for this service. 85% of the proceeds will then be channeled to the NPX token holders provided they participate in the governance of NapoleonX.

So, basically we give you our money to trade with and we get our money back plus interest after a profitable trade has been made?
991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: October 04, 2017, 01:07:02 PM
I am not here for cliff or Antonio. I like the project from day one and I love the team is putting very good effort for it.

They made good publicities, joined prestigious expos and conferences. They have a good hype from day one and they are continuing of it.

But never make your decision by my say, cliff's sale or somebodys say. Just make your own investigation.

It's obvious that we are very near to presale, now if you are still undecided, you had little time left for biggest bonuses Smiley

Exactly! Whatever any of these guys say should only be a further source of information and not the only reason for investing in a project although it's of course easier to listen to some "expert" than scrutinising whitepaper, reading several reviews, etc.  Wink I, too, like the project and believe in their success... but you never know for sure  Smiley

This guys are just publicity stunts, anyway, this is one of a the few that am really comfortable with, so am elated to see how it turns out
992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: October 04, 2017, 01:04:46 PM
Again, i will repeat that you need a certain amount of knowledge on how to use an arbitrage effectively in other to earn favorable returns with this bots, otherwise you will lose a shit ton of money
993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: October 04, 2017, 12:53:52 PM
Paypie could become a  major actor of the accounting world because they are the first one to have think to decentralized accounting. It will prevent fraud but even for the legal companies it will help them to proove what they have and it will also be a gain of time.

Honestly, if it is all just about accounting, then there is absolutely no need for the blockchain.
The use of blockchain is over hyped, as if it is useful for everything, which is just not true.

The use of blockchain introduces transparency that is currently absent from the usual form. So blockchain when utilized efficiently can be useful for almost everything out there. Also without accounting, there will be no commerce. So you better start falling in love with accounting really fast.
994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SOMA - The Social Marketplace on: October 03, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
wow realy cool, independent experts from the rating platform ICObench assigned SOMA great rating: 4.9 / 5
https://icobench.com/ico/soma

That's good for the project. I'm still trying to understand everything from my side  Grin

Yet to see an ICO ranked low by that site. So in other words, their opinion don't mean shit

this is my first look this website ,who is owner ? i sure soma is a great project ,personal i will join .

Oh, i guess i should state that it's not a negative attribute on soma, just saying that the ICObench crew opinion shouldn't be considered when researching for an investment project
995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 03, 2017, 11:45:30 AM
Hello, how much of the funds will be given to the team please ?
4,840,000 will be shared among the teams
996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: October 03, 2017, 11:39:28 AM
I think that good market cap is >100 millions.

I expect Utrust to have such a good market cap.

And do you might explaining how you reached that amount.
997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SOMA - The Social Marketplace on: October 03, 2017, 11:37:05 AM
wow realy cool, independent experts from the rating platform ICObench assigned SOMA great rating: 4.9 / 5
https://icobench.com/ico/soma

That's good for the project. I'm still trying to understand everything from my side  Grin

Yet to see an ICO ranked low by that site. So in other words, their opinion don't mean shit
998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] [NaPoleonX] 1st 🌟French🌟 algorithmic crypto asset manager 🚀 on: October 03, 2017, 11:34:32 AM
I am so impatient to see your trading bot. What is very cool on your project is that you will often create new bots. Without this of course your concept will be very poor but that's not the case so perfect. Another good point is that the community will be able to vote for the best bots, we can see here all the power of the blockchain.

The biggest issue is dealing with the saturation caused by releasing a bot for usage by the public
999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🌟🌟🚀 World’s First Blockchain Accounting Credit Score on: October 03, 2017, 11:32:36 AM
Yes the community is really hyped about paypie, and the project has a huge support from the community. It’d a pretty good indicator, cause he commmunity is smart and big support come for big project. The value of paypie will be incredible I think, im impatient to see the ico start !

Famouse man joined to this project (I mean Antonio) and now a lot of people can see, that this project have a seriously plan and perspective.

Antonio or like you call him Famouse man is just an icing on the the cake. The validity of the project has always been intact
1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 03, 2017, 11:30:51 AM
I dont know why this is not in the OP. Putting it here so that everyone can see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=0&v=-W-oyLCue7E

Keeping an eye on this project.

It's for newbies i assume, too much effect and too less info. Maybe they didn't put op in that reason.

I would prefer a video with more information with fewer effects.

Yeah someone got carried away with the modeler. Looks like something you will get from fiverr.com.  Sound like an introduction to a new star wars movie. Someone should mute the current audio, and update it with more info
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