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9821  Economy / Speculation / Re: Take profits now! on: April 14, 2017, 03:02:57 PM
bitcoin price is going down .well i would not agree on you to sell all the bitcoins .yes now is the time that you buy some bitcoins.
well wait till august if you can ,the price of bitcoins is going to touch 2000$ .well then it would be the best time to sell all your bitcoins.
I'm not sure what is exactly happening with the bitcoin prices because two major bitcoin exchanges are trading with big gap. But certainly we can say it is not the right time for profit booking but it seems prices are recovering from fluctuations and we can expect prices to break $1200 and $1225 levels again.

Holding and adding up more investment are actions right now recommended because bitcoin prices are just showing usual fluctuations and in long-term perspective it is so stable for another rally.
9822  Economy / Speculation / Re: oh Arbitrage, where art thou on: April 14, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
I am watching the price on both bitstamp and bitfinex (have no money nor bitcoin in either Sad ) and i see bitfinex is pulling up towards the $1200 meanwhile bitstamp is pulling it down towards the $1150
Before this till last January bitfinex was leading and bitstamp just followed it, after China's heavy regulations I found both of these exchanges got trading with less than $10 differences. But suddenly situations gone back to what was happening 3 months back, in wild assumptions again Chinese players get into action ?

why nobody is doing any arbitrage trading.
We cannot be sure, it is already happening that is the reason prices converges over time. At the same time, like many folks shared here, it is too hard to rotate funds across exchanges so traders may ignore opportunities too.
9823  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How i can Start Trading !!!! on: April 14, 2017, 10:54:51 AM
There's no secret in trading, what you need to do is dedicate enough time for learning the market of alt coins and as well as bitcoin.

You don't have pay for any method or tutorial because what you need is experience. Just make sure that you will start with small amount.

So that if ever your loss will be continuous it is not going to be that heavy on your part.
Learning altcoins or bitcoins means we need to study on potential aspects not on technical side. Instead of spending time on that, we can simply learn common things which are more effective to make profits in trading. Yes, the common things are different trading tools and strategies, which are applicable to all types of trading.

Learning trading strategies and tools are becoming so easier now a days thanks to youtube videos and lots of other resources like blogs and forums. Just showing interests and dedications are more than enough to get ourselves experts. I believe these alone more than enough to get start with trading.
9824  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the best Bitcoin Trading BOT? on: April 14, 2017, 06:05:35 AM
I do not consider using any bot on my trading because for me the best way to be successful especially on trading is when you will going to be hands on to it. It means in trading it need mind of the trader because decision making is needed when you need to choose when is the best time to buy or sell.
It seems a convention that we must do trading manually. But we need to adopt new technology for making our life more comfortable by saving time and efforts. Trading bots are not just for ease of work but they are believing to be more effective than manual trading theoretically. I have not come across any of them, honestly searching them.

In fact in trading to have a good trade you need to always monitor the price in which you can decide the  time you will trade or hold your bitcoin to make a earning or additional investment.
For this reason only, people are looking for trading bots. No one could watch all the time markets for making trading calls, but bots will do. Still, I doubt about the versatility of programming codes the match the capability of human thinking and decision-making.
9825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: April 13, 2017, 08:05:24 PM
The 1st single bet for the week will be the Soccer: International Clubs: UEFA Europa League, Knockout stage game between Ajax Amsterdam vs FC Schalke 04
Starting date and time: 13.04.2017 22:05 (sportsbet.io time)

This event can be found here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/uefa-europa-league-/ajax-amsterdam-v-fc-schalke-04/event/11296619?ref=tipster10

Game: Ajax Amsterdam vs FC Schalke 04
Betting option: 1st Half - First team to score - Ajax Amsterdam
Odds: 2.39
Stake: 0.015 (15.00mbtc)
Return: 0.03585 (35.85mbtc)

Proof:

https://sportsbet.io/betslip/Tq2impHgZ2bGcX9XQ

[i mg]http://i64.tinypic.com/10nro0w.jpg[/img]

Why I chose this game?

Ajax Amsterdam are a very strong team especially when playing on home ground and Schalke are pretty inconsistent in their away matches vs above average opponents. I expect Ajax to start the match very motivated from the kick-off and score the first goal of the match in the first half. Good luck guys!
That bet would be amazing to check if it wasn’t coming from your ref but it looks like just another way to gain affiliates.

Ajaz seems like the better team in general but like you said Schalke is a very inconsistent team, they might play amazingly and win by a big margin or they can play horrible and lose by a big margin, a very very risky game.

If your aim is to help people and suggest good games, at least do it without your ref link so we know if you are trying to help or trying to get affiliates. Conflict of interest brings a huge doubt.
9826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: April 13, 2017, 07:39:17 PM
I heard that whoever is the MVP will be announced after the finals ? It was usually announced after the first round when did they changed that ? Does anyone know when the voting begins ?

I mean do they watch the playoffs and THAN vote ? Or do they already started to vote ? According to the answer if OKC beats Rockets and people vote after that, Brodie could be MVP by a big margin, otherwise its head to head.
9827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: April 13, 2017, 06:32:26 PM
Is depends on people mind because everyone has his own thoughts about gambling, some people will treat gambling as fun.
Some people will treat it as serious money making, but many people don't know they look for higher margins of income with low investments.
At the same time, they need think that there is huge risk involved in it.
Actually gambling is just like investment but here you have faster results and the edge plays against you.
When you do currency trading on a platform like Instaforex they also charge you fees but very tiny, gambling is just like that but with a higher fees you can say.

In core though gambling is just a fun activity but honestly man when money is involved the fun becomes too tiny and the addiction grows. Play with play money and you would never get addicted, since its the money that addicts us.
9828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you choose casino to play? on: April 13, 2017, 12:17:09 PM
With good support it will attract more customers and even if there is an increasing number of customers it should not be the reason to have a slow support. I know sites with slow support and I never played with them again, I believe that when it's fast to deposit, the site should be fast when releasing withdrawal. Lack of customer support will give doubts to the gamblers and when they lose customers because of it, they might lose their business.
Support is not a big thing if once the site has established themselves you can take the example of primedice, now Stunna hardly replies any user who tries to contact him but given the reputation they have developed everyone now trusts them.

But, when the site is new they need to have a quick support along with some basic requirements like fast withdrawals, active chat on site, a unique design because most of the site now clone a previously existing site.
9829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: April 13, 2017, 08:43:47 AM
Im the same situation with you ts, I always wanted to win more, more and more in the gambling site but when i lose my money I realize that we need to control my greediness, and stop playing.  I suggest to you to be contented on what you have. Otherwise you cannot control your greediness and lost all.
Because you guys are treated gambling is a source of profit even its obvious that gambling business  are made to give entertainment for people not for giving profit by others..
So if you are looking for profit in gambling expect that you will lose and control your self if you lose consider it that you are not lucky today and just have fun..
Whatever you say mate but when we all gamble we have the profit and win factor in our mind.

I can't even imagine a user gambling without having any intentions of winning, that been said though it's true that chasing previously given losses or aspiring more and more profit would do nothing rather than just make you optimistic and hence loosing more in gambling.

I have been gambling since 2-3 years now and I can quite easily tell you one thing guys that you can't win from it if you keep gambling again and again, just gamble until you feel you have won enough and forget it. Think like you invested in a company and the profits are done, no more profits there now.
9830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Projects By CODE Quality on: April 12, 2017, 06:52:46 PM
I voted but I am not sure how objective my vote was. I don’t know about the code of some of these coins. Mainly anyone of the coins listed below monero. I don’t know about PivX, Ardor, Lisk, Waves, NEM and augur. They are all new to me so I couldn’t vote for any of those.

Which means I am not qualified to vote to be honest. Which also shows the result of this vote would mean nothing when people like me can vote.
9831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How much money do you invest in alt coins? on: April 12, 2017, 06:33:57 PM
Well thanks to some profitable deals and rises during the bitcoin price dropping the altcoins I hold now are more valuable, with eth, ripple and ltc going up as well they worth a lot more than what I initially put up. I have around 0.7 now which was 0.14 when I started it all. I did deposited some more tough, not sure how much but I think around 0.2 or so, basically turned 0.35 to 0.7 with just holding some altcoins.
9832  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What does it mean to "Short"? on: April 11, 2017, 05:56:18 PM
I guess there are enough explanations about shorting and how we are doing it. I just want to know what are the exchanges supporting going for shorting in bitcoin trading /altcoin trading.

As per my understanding, shorting will be possible when trader vs trading house kind of trading platforms. But for the crypto currency exchanges, we are all having trader vs trader kind of trading platforms. I read somewhere bitfinex support shorting, but not sure as I never checked with them.

Forex trading is the right platform and easily available to everyone to check and learn about shorting. Because almost all the Forex brokers are providing free demo platform to get practice with all types of trading and trading tools.
9833  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Yobit Ico on: April 11, 2017, 05:12:24 PM
I am a member of yobit exchange and get email notification with count down to new ICO launch but usually it arrives just few hours before ICO starts and being in different time zone, most of the time I miss it.
Is there any other way to learn about yobig ICO two three days in advance?
There are multiple solutions could be found for the problem you are having. I could not understand why don't you concentrate to invest on the ICOs which are being listed on other exchanges, or they also intimating you at neck of time ?

Anyway here are some feasible solutions for knowing ICOs well in advance :
- Be active on altcoin announcement board. Many devs do intimate about their starting of ICO and its timing too.
- http://www.icocountdown.com show upcoming and currently active ICOs.
- https://cyber.fund/radar is another similar services but with little differences on interpretations.
9834  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Manipulations on: April 08, 2017, 11:03:17 AM
trading is not manipulation, trading only suply and demand
but you can manipulation demand and can incraese price if you have much money, you can pump everything coin you want if you have much money
Yes, tricky manipulations are not possible with high volume trading instruments or needed billion dollars to move the prices.

In cryptocurrencies, manipulations are becoming so common as people are just ready to invest somewhere. If you are capable of green change of an altcoins, you may make some good amounts of bitcoins at the end of the day through intensively manipulating prices. Innocent traders who are thinking for big profits are got trapped most of the times.

Choosing well established coins for trading/investing could be a one practice to avoid manipulation surprises. But in recent times XRP and LTC also showed big sudden fluctuations to make us think about how to choose altcoins. Probably staying away from altcoins could be a solution as of now.
9835  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Professional Trader on: April 08, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
Today,we could see lot of newbies daily entering the crypto currency market and struggling to gain profits.To become a professional trader,what are the characteristics to be developed?
True, nowadays here in my country trading in Forex is very trending now in the internet which can be seen most often in a social media such as Facebook, and sometimes they conduct seminars in executive hotels together with registration fee for them to attend the seminar conference Wink.
I guess it will be more easier for you to become professional traders if you are ready to follow them. Forex market always having very big advantage of sharpening our skills in demo markets. I believe that is alone more than enough to make our self as a professional trader.

Being ready to learn continuously must be the basic characteristics of becoming professional trader. We just need to be patience to learn different things of trading environment. Achieving professionalism in trading is not just a day job, this like learning a new mother tongue. You need to be preferred yourself like a child to learn new things.
9836  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: April 08, 2017, 07:51:31 AM
Maybe when the right time comes and I've got the guts to fully invest everything that I've got then I will do it with bitcoin.
The waiting may not end in near future moreover literally you may need to wait infinitely. Because you must be having very typical criteria to define the right time for investing all with bitcoins. Still it is not recommended, going with bitcoin the maximum is suggested by many people and the right time is right now.

I need to diversify my funds since I'm not that really rich and still needs to do proper budgeting.
I did some observations, in last 10 years the investing habit of technical people has been changing drastically and their diversification likely allows other investment in less percentage compared to bitcoin investment.
9837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling investment is zero sum on: April 07, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
I just invested in moneypot as well, 80700 bits, took out an hour later as 80000, quickest way to lose 700 satoshi without doing anything I saw.

If you want to lose money but don’t have to time lose all your money yourself and tired, just invest your coins to moneypot and go sleep, when you wake up gamblers would take it all and you will lose all your “investment”, we are basically giving our Money to gamblers. I am not so sure anymore about “house always wins” on moneypot.
9838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: April 07, 2017, 03:56:14 PM
It is weird to see some bets staying up there. That 1.07 odd is amazing for example. Does anyone believe Chelsea won’t be the champions?

It is obvious that they are going to win it all. That means if you bet any amount, you get 7% in return. That is a good return if you ask me. I think they might even pull that bet option soon because the results are basically there.
9839  Economy / Speculation / Re: The 'called it' boasting thread. on: April 07, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
Anything below 1k is cheap. Since 2013. Also, my sig is topical.
This way anyone could become a sage even by throwing blind balls. I wondered in mid 2015 when bitcoin was recovering from $220 to $240 rangebound. Suddenly may people predicted here about $400 or $450 also and it happened but did hold but that was the beginning stage of what current rally have achieved.

One thing we are all sure about is higher price for bitcoins over time due to increasing popularity/adoption/demand and limited cap. So, we can always think about next-next targets and it may hit one day but may not within next rally itself.

I believe everyone could be sage here because bitcoin fundamentally has huge price promise.
9840  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin AND the Altcoins are moving up.. Pushing ATH's for global CC markets.. on: April 07, 2017, 03:28:31 PM
Every money that goes into altcoin is pure speculation.
Altcouins are backed up by nothing. Bitcoin can be used as payment, but i do not remember that I have seen more than two shops accepting a any other coin than bitcoin.
That's why I think sooner or later the money that goes into alt will go out of it again. Maybe into btc, maybe back in fiat.

Nearly no merchants actually accept Bitcoin, and those that do only get a select few customers who pay in Bitcoin.  You go to big cities, a couple of shops that you searched for happen to accept Bitcoin and then you've decided it has serious adoption when it doesn't.  Altcoins are backed by their potential use, which is the same reason that Bitcoin is backed (plus the "digital gold" thing).
Where do you live ? But regardless of your geolocation, I guess you may find enormous number of bitcoin accepting merchants online. But still you are talking no merchants accepts, how ? I believe I could buy everything which are needed for my living with bitcoin payments.

Cryptocurrency market is right now booming, no doubts on that but the reasons would be insignificant in my opinion. Because not just individuals pushing it but the community, when there are big number of people taking same decisions then there will be no wonder, some jokes also being considered as a serious investment vehicles.
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