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9941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: December 01, 2016, 12:51:22 PM
There is no smart way in gambling, only luck. a simple example is: who would have thought Juventus lost with Pescara in the Italian League last weeks yesterday? probably 95% of people would choose juventus will win, but in reality lost.

Well many of the games are fixed and they are used to trap the gamblers. You should play carefully and never bet more than what you can afford to lose. But in cases like these its impossible not to lose money and so I do feel sorry for you.

It is true that end of the day even in sports betting it all comes down to luck and pure luck.
It's because of probability fair they are using some website to connect into there gambling site's you can't say that they can trap the gamblers if they are going to code for there own gambling then it's a trap but if they are using moneypot you need to have skill and luck to win.

What in the world are you talking about??

Provably fair is for casino games and not sports betting. I think you got the topic all wrong. Please read the post properly before you post any reply.
Everyone knows about provably fair algorithms and they do verify it before betting. But that is for casino games only not sports betting.
9942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 30, 2016, 09:51:20 AM
I don't think cheaters will succeed forever as casinos will track them down eventually and stop them. They will be banned from entering the casino if they are caught. Now, this reminds me so much of Oceans Eleven!
cheating means not safe at all , as you have higher risk than gamble in usual way a normal way to bet. it might get you some profit because you found the game vulnerable and exploit it to get 100% chance to win.

but yes as time goes by the site owner will realize it and track you down to get their losing money back and they will get it.
Sites are not stupid, you can't cheat them as they are protecting their business very well. We might find some bugs in the system and we can take advantage for that but it's not gonna last as they'll easily detect it.

They'll see an abnormal operational behavior for their funds or your account getting more money than the others.

Gambling sites really hate winners but welcome losers.

This is true and most of the top sites have survived due to the tough tech teams that support the site. Moreover only the HufflePuff case was probably the biggest one pulled over PrimeDice.

Since they run a profitable business they cannot risk losing too much and hence put max payout limits and often block the know cheaters.
9943  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Storing of Bitcoins is against Bitcoin. on: November 30, 2016, 09:40:13 AM
In that case what do you expect people to do with it? sell it all? throw it away? People can do whatever they want with their coins because its their property and you are no one to suggest anything.

People have their own reason to spend/save their coins. Bitcoin is the people's currency and they can use it in every way possible.
9944  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: November 30, 2016, 09:30:35 AM
What missing in the scene is the number of people willing to do a bitcoin transaction with them.

I have never seen someone, who have asked to pay with bitcoin at the shop.


In many countries people have never even heard of bitcoins yet. How do you expect them to accept it when they dont even trust it?

Not everyone in the world is having same acumen and they fail to understand the mechanism how the coin works and how it can change the economy. However local businesses prefer local currencies and not bitcoin.
9945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 30, 2016, 09:26:06 AM
There is no smart way in gambling, only luck. a simple example is: who would have thought Juventus lost with Pescara in the Italian League last weeks yesterday? probably 95% of people would choose juventus will win, but in reality lost.

Well many of the games are fixed and they are used to trap the gamblers. You should play carefully and never bet more than what you can afford to lose. But in cases like these its impossible not to lose money and so I do feel sorry for you.

It is true that end of the day even in sports betting it all comes down to luck and pure luck.
9946  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: November 30, 2016, 08:56:40 AM
I was just wondering are there any benefits from registering of your signature referral link, wetsuit?
I think I did registered on my own, no ref's and you faucet is kinda low paying...
270 satoshi per hour feels like a huge waste of time. Yes there are chance's for big BTC
but how slim are they?  Smiley well I try my luck and do the second guess for your mysterious giveaway.

Maybe this is some Java applet for roulette table? pVp/2p2 vs Cashier and such?  Roll Eyes


Well it is a waste of time if you just sit in front of your computer and claim all day Grin

However they also have a 200$ big win (I am the sole winner of that till now) and a lottery. You can also try investing in advertisement campaigns in order to generate referrals for the site. Referral earning is a lot - 50% of claims and 0.25% of House Edge on Dice game and extra reward points.
9947  Other / Off-topic / Re: How kids can "earn" Bitcoin ? on: November 30, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
Seriously I think kids should focus on studies and play, in order to develop their knowledge, skills and health. Most importantly the kids are straying off the path of hard work and trying to earn money from gambling and faucets which are waste of time.

I dont understand how the question even arises that kids should earn bitcoin. For God's sake they are "kids" and thats why they should learn to earn and not try to earn right away.
9948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 29, 2016, 02:28:56 PM
gambling/investing very similar, if you know what you are doing. Both have risk, both can ruin your finance if you let it, and you can be pretty rich from both too. So, my guess is you are not that good in either gambling or investing, so you should do whatever you want for fun as a little hobby on the side, so you can never destroy your future.

Investing in a mining rig, gold, bitcoin itself or some ICO which you know is legit is profitable. If you are wiling to take a little risk, you can also try altcoin trading. Overall investing is much more profitable than gambling.

Just dont get greedy and invest in some HYIP/Ponzi schemes - they are bound to steal your money.
9949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 29, 2016, 02:26:31 PM
Whether it is skilled based games or casino games one should need the luck to win money from gambling without luck, I don't think anyone can win money continuously just from skills and experience. Nowadays many games are fixed so you can't win your bet just based on team or players past performance.

 Games like poker/blackjack maybe affected by luck but it is outweigh by skill of bluffing and strategy.  There are several times when the one with initial better cards lost with the one with inferior cards.  This is what they called bad beat.  Bluffing strategy can affect the one with superior card to tilt thus making him too aggressive and lose his strategy.
skills have more impact than luck , but without luck you can't win anything in the end. so actually you need both skills and luck at the same time. but most of the times not luck determine the outcome so no I don't believe gambling depends on luck. it's like 75 for skills and 25 for luck.
I don't think that your percentage will not work for casino games means Dice, Roulette, etc. These games 100% luck base games. Without luck, it's not at all possible to make money. But in sports betting or poker game your percentage may work, These games are a mixture of Luck and Skills. And here first preference is our skill set, next Luck.
any games in gambling required skills and luck. what i mean about skills in a games of chance like roulette , dice , baccarat etc are an experience how to handle certain situation to not go allin when you feel you are in streak lost for example. it's not always about luck to win a game in gambling , it's more than just a game of chance imho.

I don't think someone have a good skill in dice game, I mean Dice is a random game. You don't even know what the result when you throw a dice.
So I think Doce is a game of luck. Because only your luck which give you a win.

Indeed dice is not game of skills. There are other gambling games based on skill but dice is based on pure luck. Many people do like to experiment on their luck without even bothering of the consequences.

Hence the winnings of gambling is pure luck as far as dice is concerned.
9950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: November 28, 2016, 10:05:35 AM
I use intuition and luck now.
When I see many red lose in row.. i make bets and won Grin
intuition? i would called that "your feeling" rather than that, and how could you using your luck? You can't be sure you'll always lucky when you're gamble. You were lucky, maybe after you had many loses in a rows, you make bets, after that you'll hit red again.

That is called "greed" and not intuition.

The most important strategy is to control your greed. Otherwise the cycle will repeat and you will lose again. If you keep betting you are bound to lose everything. You must cash out while still on green otherwise you will end up as a big loser.
9951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 28, 2016, 10:03:33 AM
I always feels investments are better than casino gambling. Because in gambling we get enticed by luck and can easily end up losing everything. However if you know where to invest your money you can get fairly good profits. That includes trading, mining and casino bankroll.
9952  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is there to do with bitcoins these days ? on: November 28, 2016, 10:00:36 AM
I think holding Bitcoins nowadays could being profitable, instead of using or spending it. The price is increasing already since a while and if this continues as expected, holders can making good profit

i agree with you sir, its better to save the bitcoin from now on and see the price is going to increase in next month. i'd rather to save my bitcoin rather than spend it and maybe for small amount to spending and the rest is to keep in my wallet.
Since I am from India So I think it is not better to hold Bitcoin at the present time Because the price of Bitcoin is going to fall daily due to new currency notes launch ( 500INR & 1000INR ) .
So due to this fact price is going to down so it would be better to sell because the price will go continuos down for two to three month .

The ban on 500 and 1000 INR notes did not seem to have any effect on the bitcoin market in India till now, it has been 20 days already. Seems like transaction processors and web wallets like PayTM and Freecharge are more accepted here.

I dont know but India still needs a lot to learn before people here can accept bitcoin.
9953  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: November 28, 2016, 09:57:22 AM
My second guess, a working casino fully licensed, costs a bomb for a licence.

You guys mean to say that the hi-low game from the site is going to get a trade license? However that would be unexpected since very few people care about bitcoin faucets let alone any dice game that is in it. But its better to be safe for admin than be sorry about it later on.
9954  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: November 27, 2016, 02:50:55 PM
It cant really be declared that everyone will use bitcoin in 2022. Its like making a statement without and logic or reasoning, let alone any proper proof, or maybe FUD propaganda.

It will increase the user base at a slow but steady rate but "everyone" or any other such superlatives is a bit exaggeration.
9955  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: November 27, 2016, 02:48:51 PM
Yes it is. Because of rapidly increasing of price of the bitcoin people are now more interested in earning it. I myself, wants to earn more
 because I know the price will increase more in the future.

It is the common interest of all traders to buy when prices are low and sell when prices rise in order to make money and get rich Grin

The main attraction for the traders is the fluctuating price and thus it continues to fluctuate even more. This makes bitcoin more attractive for potential traders and eventually more people begin to use it.
9956  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: November 27, 2016, 02:38:53 PM
Of all the given options a proper and decent amount can be earned by altcoin trading - altcoin vs bitcoin, altcoin vs fiat and altcoin mining and then trading. Other than that most HYIP, MLM, RevShare are all bound to become scam at one time or the other. Its better to stay away from the the least.
9957  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Really The Future Of Money? on: November 27, 2016, 02:36:25 PM
It can be. All I know is, cryptocurrency have a great future. It can be bitcoin or a better crypto that can be the future of money. There are still a lot to improve to bitcoin and if they can improve it, it can be the future. But if not, maybe another crypto will be and bitcoin is just another step for a better currency.

Considering other cryptos I think bitcoin really is the future of money. The user base keeps on increasing the prices will keep on rising and then attract more and more traders. Once it become saturated, the prices will remain fairly constant and this will attract more merchants.

In a away it is shaping the future of money.
9958  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: November 26, 2016, 06:28:14 PM
I dont think bitcoin will bring losses to investors. The price will rise in the long term, even if crashes occur in short term. People tend to get too much speculative and end up panic-selling everything and the crash happens. However this is again short-term, in the long term the price will keep rising and they will make profits.
9959  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin without Altcoin ? on: November 26, 2016, 06:25:15 PM
I just wanted to get your opinions on this one , what do you think Bitcoin would be if there was no Alternative coins such Litecoin & Dogecoin and the others ...
I mean it would be better with or without them Bitcoin would have no value at all ?
If no altcoin will be in the online world then the main problem wilo be earning problem with Bitcoin .
Because i think most of the persons earning with Bitcoin only through trading , if no altcoin will exist then the bitcoiner where do trading ??
If there would no alt coins it will indirectly affect bitcoin, as most of the people are investing their bitcoins in alts coin and making good money, and especially when bitcoin remain stable. So, alt coins really affect bitcoin. Other than this way, technically altcoins support bitcoin's enhancements. Bitcoin needs altcoins always.

However there has been many altcoins that have become scams in the past - ICOs running away, pump and dump schemes and all such stuff.

People even consider bitcoin to turn scam one day like those altcoin, though this is very unlikely.

However in a way I feel that altcoins ruin the image of bitcoin because whatever bad happens with altcoins, people tend to link bitcoin to it, even when bitcoin is nowhere in the picture.
9960  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: November 26, 2016, 06:19:54 PM
this site still paying? last times login was several month ago, never withdrawn it .. but prefer like freedoge.co.in  Grin (don't know if this site still paying too ).

AFAIK freedoge.co.in is the sister of this site and they are owned/operated by the same owner. They are legit faucet sites and the oldest faucet if I remember it correctly. For sure this site is still paying their members like their sister.

Both of the sites freebitco.in and freedogeco.in have been legit and well paying since 2013. They are a veteran group in the faucet universe and are here to stay. We can see the admin adding new features to them every month and we can be sure more are going to follow very soon.
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