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1  Economy / Speculation / So who fell for the shill that BTC was to become a million bucks in the future? on: January 17, 2018, 03:47:51 PM
You people realize BTC is just a way to make a quick buck by this ultra manipulated market, right? Crypto markets make wall street look like kindergarten.

Don’t fall for the shills. Bitcoin will NEVER become 1 million. People would claim that I am wrong and that people said the same thing of BTC becoming $1000. Yeah, true, but at 1 BTC = 1 million = there would be quadrillionaires. I mean, really? You really think that’s possible? Lol.

It’s all good having crypto just for fun, put a few bucks and see how stupid the market gets with its ups and downs. Cashing in, rinse and repeat. It’s NOT good for specially noobs buying the shill that BTC will become $100k or 1 million. That’s just plain stupid and ridiculous.

Good luck guys.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin unsustainable at these levels. Are people deluded? on: December 11, 2017, 10:03:19 PM
at no other contender arises to take its place.

So if you're not a skeptic it makes sense to hodl, and that means buyers are going to keep driving the price higher. Far from being unsustainable it looks very sustainable. I just wonder what happens as blackouts start spreading due to mining on a global scale.

That’s the thing, I have read or at least heard of white pages that would slaughter BtC....in theory. Lol. BtC was nothing but an unproven theoretical system  until it was successfully carried. It would only take one Satoshi Genius to destroy the btc model but then what? That’s the scary thing. I am just concerned with crazy people throwing their life savings at it. It would be awesome if it makes a lot of millionaires, but we all know that people specially noobs panicky way to easy and there goes their life savings.  Cry
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA and EOS: Is it time to buy? on: December 11, 2017, 09:54:30 PM
There are a lot of memes around this IOTA, but guys, is it really worth buying and holding? Especially after this rise?

It is good IMO to do a quick profit and turn to BtC in the meantime and to take advantage of the fluctuations. I heard the system is shit and buggy as of now. So proceed with caution. Lol.

Only problem is that if it moons then you are SOL. Has happened to me many many times which sucks. So use whatever you are confortable to lose.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA and EOS: Is it time to buy? on: December 11, 2017, 09:52:02 PM
buy REAL projects not unproven untested vapor

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2479595.0


the issue with vapor is that however good it sounds that before it is released there will be superior sounding vapor that will attract invesment away from the vapor you just invested in



Bitcoin was vaporware as well and look what happened to it. Lol.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin unsustainable at these levels. Are people deluded? on: December 11, 2017, 07:59:37 PM

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 So what you said above about most of people will become thrillionaires is impossible unless all instituations started to accept bitcoin as a payment method which i hardly doubt will happen.
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But see? That’s what maximalist have been wanting/claiming all along. That in a sense is the main purpose of BtC otherwise it just becones  a current manipulated by someone else. To have a btc standard. If that standard happens then you get my concerns. And if not and the price keeps rising at he crazy levels then it’s considered nothing than a pyramid. Problem I see right now is that all these noobs are buying btc even my grandma and don’t even know how to use it and 2 they can’t really even buy many things in live with it. Lol.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: my 38 Eth been stolen, any way to get it back...? on: December 11, 2017, 02:29:55 PM
Probably no way to get them back, but if in your county a postal police exists go there and tell them - after all this website must be registered to someone.

Police will be useless. They would even blame the OP for investing in crypto  Huh I think OP is out of luck. This is the downside of crypto. Once you are hacked or scammed you are done. I know people who lost 100s  of BtC or 1000s of eth  when it was cheap. And will happen over and over and over again.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: my 38 Eth been stolen, any way to get it back...? on: December 11, 2017, 02:18:18 PM
And this is why Crypto will never replace money. Sorry OP this sucks.  Embarrassed
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA and EOS: Is it time to buy? on: December 11, 2017, 02:15:43 PM
I have had my eye on these two coins for a while but I didnt have money. I now have some, I am wondering since I missed the bull run. Do I wait for them to settle down or buy now?

I would say buy EOS. Buy 1/3 now 1/3 half way and 1/3 after release that way you average down. That way you cover bases if you buy now and ends up dropping in price. Although it would suck if it moons lol.

EOS is far superior than eth.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is garbage. on: December 11, 2017, 02:06:20 PM
if you think that bitcoin is garbage , maybe you should read more about bitcoin , dont say bitcoin is a garbage , think it , if bitcoin is a garbage , you think some millionaire will invest at bitcoin?
bitcoin is a garbage? nope, impossible..
This is the same guy who has been screaming that you need to sell bitcoin and buy silver since $1000
Hashanah these people are only here to get their own benefit. I always think why people are getting to be such selfish that for their own sake of interest, they make notorious roamers about something and try to degrade that. They shouldn’t be doing it. If you have some good idea or you want to sell something else, then market it. Don’t use such unethical and cheap way of selling.

What if he ends up being like chicken little and be right in the end? No one can predict the future. People are getting a bit crazy with the news not helping at all. Even my grandma wants to invest in it with NO IDEA what bitcoin really is. So that’s what’s driving prices up. IMO. Funny thing is say my grandma wants to buy $1000 in btc thinking it’s real money while in reality it’s virtual and while you can buy more things with it you really can’t buy barely nothing with it. Plus the transactions fees will eat the noobs with .0001 btc alive. Just saying.
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is garbage. on: December 11, 2017, 01:59:08 PM
How can we be expected to invest in this stupidity?

Here is a guy trying to give Andreas a tip of $1.50.  To do that, he paid $13.46 in fees.  Does that seem like a sensible payment system?  Not.  It is garbage.  SegWit didn't help with anything.  



Seems most of  your posts are sour on BTC, but I agree. Noobs are buying BTC only to store it away with no clue of what BTC really is. They hear the news or watch TV and are driven to buy it just cause mark cuban says it will make them rich. Lol. There are alt coins or will be that are 10x superior to btc. Maximalist will say no way and be deluded in their fantasy that btc will always be forever king. It will be for many years but that will change as soon as a new technology gets adopted. Will the price crash to 0? I don’t think so. But the other technology will take over. Which coin will it be? Who knows. With a supply of just 22 million that means only a few will have control to manipulate the market. It happens already in exchanges even though people want to deny it. Like I say manipulation in crypto is worse than Wall Street. It works out for us though since we accumulate more. But people are getting deluded.

11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin unsustainable at these levels. Are people deluded? on: December 11, 2017, 12:53:42 PM
You have a very good argument here. Yes there are already alts out there that are better than BTc when .it comes to the purpose and the whole decentralization thing.But bitcoin was the first and as you said  people wanna make quick money after seing how much it grown this past months. So one of the main attraction about bitcoin right now is not his purpose but his price . Besides how do you expect to control those big holders ? they are investor also and opportunists ,That way you are suggestion that the network should make a limit on how much bitcoin you can hold ? Where's the freedom in that? isn't BTC all about having your freedom over your assets.

I am in no way suggesting anything. This project turned into a first dibs kinda thing. I just don’t think Satoshi really had a clue what was going to happen. Kinda like when you have great intentions with something and it just goes out of control. To me that’s a problem though, there has been people to be verified to have 100s of thousands of coins just there laying around. New people are also getting carried away by the news and buying 1 btc with their life savings because they think it will make them a millionaire and that BtC will be the only currency of the future. How can anyone really predict that? If BtC goes to millions then I will be a millionaire so cool I guess but then there will be quadrillionaires out there which I mean is that even sustainable? That would be like for every ultra rich there will be millions of ultra poor. This in my opinion would be the most catastrophic thing to ever happen in the history of mankind. Just saying. So those quadrillioares will call the shots for good or evil. Isn’t that scary though? But I bet people haven’t even had that thought through their minds right now. Lol.
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin unsustainable at these levels. Are people deluded? on: December 11, 2017, 12:47:01 PM
I'm not going to comment on all the things you said (I'll let other people do the job) so here goes:

Yes, there might be some entities that control a huge amount of Bitcoin, but that doesn't mean they have any power over it (unlike banks). In a utopian world where Bitcoin is the primary currency, it doesn't matter that it can be used to manipulate prices because FIAT currencies will be secondary. But even then, the market will sort itself out.

It also doesn't matter how much people can afford because Bitcoin's supply is fixed, so it's a given that the price will surge. They can just deal with fractions of it and more fractions can be added in the future through easy protocol upgrades should it be deemed necessary.

BTC isn't just the first cryptocurrency. It's also the most time-tested & secure (by hashrate) decentralized network. It can surpass other coins which are better right now through protocol upgrades. But the problem is that there is a lot of division due to the large number of people involved with it. It's easier to make changes to Monero for example, which has a much smaller community. It has gone through several hard forks already.

Those forks though. Lol. Soon we will have ( BTC carbon, BTC silver, BTC uranium, BTC this, that, btc dog, btc diamond, 100s of scam coins under BTC forks) which imho will be a big mess.
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin unsustainable at these levels. Are people deluded? on: December 11, 2017, 12:24:51 PM
In theory I think BTC had a great purpose - take away the power of banks in our lives by in a sense have the people control the money. To be a universal entity controled by the people. But now that the price is so high doesn’t having whales in BTC defeats the whole purpose? Just a few People have 1000s of BTC just like some execs had the power in the banks. Thus, they can easily manipulate the market (if they wish) wouldn’t this be a whole lot worse once everything is mined?

What’s the point of new people coming into BTC if all they can afford is .0001 BTC or even less when the price goes up again. Whilst a few have 100s or thousands. Doesn’t that makes them the “little guy” with no control since BTC can be manipulated (as we all have seen in exchanges). In fact, I think the manipulation here or in Alts is just crazy and worse than Wall Street.

Other thing is I get BTC was the pioneer that changed everything and it’s king by ranking, but aren’t there already there alts way more efficient (in paper) than BTC which in the end just makes the point that BTC will not be forever and will be replaced with a newer more efficient technology out there. (Almost like when bronze was to armor then steel came and bro se was then just a thought from the past).

Talking about replacement. Why do people think that BTC will forever be the number one choice if we all know that technology is changing so fast and there will be new “ways” that will undoubtedly come sooner than later.

I have BTC so I am no hater. And I’ve been watching this forum way before signing up. I just think that some people are just getting carried away by perhaps greed which was one of the Satoshi Donts principles.

Are people being realistic here? I though about it cause some regular people in the street have started mentioning BTC as OMG BTC is crazy I must buy some then I ask them if they know what’s really BtC besides the name and if they know the purpose and they have NO idea. They just wanna make some quick money.

I don’t know. Maybe I am getting confused. Also some people (mainly maximalist) say that ALL Alts are shit (yes, way too many) but there are others that given the chance would destroy anything out there in terms of efficiency. Are those maximalist getting deluded with the thought that NOTHING will ever replace BtC?

Put your thoughts in here.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: June 15, 2017, 07:12:05 PM
fellow token holders
Do you think Sonm is gona hit hard on golem?!


Golem is already in alpha/beta. Sonm doesn't have nothing yet.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: June 15, 2017, 06:55:42 PM
I got ~10 SNM per 1$

Baller!!!  Wink
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: June 15, 2017, 05:22:22 PM
SUpercomputer unable to handle their own website.

whats going on ?

Lol. Yet another RED BLOODY FLAG
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about SONM on: June 15, 2017, 05:01:25 PM
My friend is a US citizen and is interested in SONM. Are there any feasible ways he can purchase SONM during the ICO?

VPN
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] SONM - Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining (GRIB technology) on: June 15, 2017, 04:26:30 PM
guys, there are some red flags on their telegram channel. Do you invest in this ico?

Hell NO. No escrow = bad = 3 guys have keys to all millions = they can run away any fucking time they want with your money = ....
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: June 15, 2017, 03:45:15 PM
No escrow = PASS

Seriously, if the team is not going to have allocation this is just going to be a shit disaster from the beginning. I was SO excited to pledge but now hell nah. The team will do whatever they fucking want with the millions of dollars at their disposal.

20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / LDOGE pump on: June 10, 2017, 03:24:32 AM
You guys know whats up with LDOGE? Pumped from 2 to 15 to 9? Any news for it? That I know ldoge has been dead for a while now just to be resuscitated a few days ago.  Shocked
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