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1  Economy / Economics / Re: Money above all things, Yes or no ? on: September 16, 2017, 03:23:05 PM
I can see that people nowadays are busy searching on money and everything depends on money. People nowadays never go to church just because they would rather earn money rather than praise God. Others do not pay respect to elders  because they earn money for them or richer than them. Well for you, is money above all things ?

Not everything, but money is pretty important and I doubt anyone can deny it.
2  Other / Off-topic / Re: Cant Sleep :( on: September 16, 2017, 03:17:11 PM
This past few months i dont know why but its hard for me to get sleep Sad any suggestion or opinion that would help me to got better sleep at night . Huh my regular sleep 4-5am Sad

Warm milk helps me
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 0x on: September 16, 2017, 02:36:51 PM
Should i invest in this currency buy selling nem. NEM has supply of 9 Billion but 0x has only 500 million. Any suggestions?

Everyone is talking about this and I think for good reason. This is one of the unicorns that might go 100x within a year. So undervalued at the moment.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO Where Are My Coins? on: September 16, 2017, 02:29:43 PM
I'm new to ICOs. I've bought into about 8 now and some release the coins right away, others I have to wait until the end of the ICO to get my coins, and ICOs I have to wait several weeks after the end of the ICO to get my coins (so they say).

Can someone please explain why they do that? Why not just give everyone the coins they buy right away, like some ICOs? And why does it take weeks after the end of an ICO to send coins? I don't get it.

Some ICOs lock tokens do it doesn't crash directly on the market. Some lock because blockchain isn't in place yet. Its best to be patient and follow the team.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Could this work as an ICO? on: September 16, 2017, 02:22:11 PM
I've been stalking this forum for a while, and decided to register to get the community's thoughts on an idea.

First some background. For the sake of full transparency: I am the head of tech at a KYC company in South Africa, and we're busy building an attestation service onto the blockchain which is launching pretty soon.

However, this idea is not part of that company and I am not representing them here. Instead, I am going to be embarking (shortly) on a personal project that I am trying to get funded (I've personally funded about 15% of it so far).

So the idea: I am a very keen DIYer, always looking to build things, and my latest personal project is to build a sports-fishing boat. The cost of such a project is vast, and I will be pulling in extra labour if I can get some additional funding to establish a business for some unemployed friends/family.

First a few assumptions...

1. About 900 man-hours will be used to construct the boat. This equates to 54,000 minutes (you'll see why this is important)
2. Equipment/tools purchases of R30,000.00 is still needed.
3. The total materials cost is quantifiable - and is currently estimated at R366,000.00
4. Payment to suppliers must be in a fiat currency
5. Payment to labourers can be in crypto currency
6. Each employee will be a contractor, therefore responsible for their own taxes
7. The company will be split into two after the boat is completed: half will run a fishing charter out of cape town, and the other half (if viable) will build similar fishing boats to order.
8. I am personally invested in this project and if it fails then I make a significant personal loss.
9. South African currency is ZAR and median minimum wage in the construction industry for the necessary skill level is = R40.47 per hour (about US$3.07 at current exchange rate).
10. For this project (and as I believe strongly that the minimum wage in South Africa is a joke), I am aiming to pay R65.00 per man-hour of work performed (equivalent of US$4.93 at current exchange rate).
11. I intend employing 4 people.

Obviously, given the restrictions of an ICO, (can't put up equity in exchange for tokens being the most pertinent) shares in the venture/business cannot be distributed.

However, what if I were to establish an ICO that works more or less as follows:

Time is valuable, and effectively, the value backing the token would be time and materials cost as raw inputs.

1. So, to pay for labour, issue 54,000 tokens
2. Issue 396,000 tokens to cover the materials and equipment costs
4. Issue 50,000 tokens for bounties, bonuses, etc.
3. Issue a further 100,000 tokens to cover any unforeseen costs.

This equates to 600,000 total tokens. Given the base valuation of one token to one minute of work correlation (roughly), tokens will be disbursed as follows:

1. 50,000 tokens will be made available in escrow (released only once funded) for distribution either on a discounted pre-sale, bonus or bounties - in return for marketing, technical work, dev, etc.
2. 396,000 tokens will be made available on a token sale at R1.00 per token (US$0.07 at current exchange rate). Obviously this will be held in Escrow, and returned unless fully funded.
3. Once funded (396,000 tokens), the token will be listed on an exchange.
4. 54,000 will be held in escrow to pay for labour. Labour will be paid weekly over the full build period from these tokens. The contractors will be free to exchange these on the exchange on a supply/demand basis.
5. The 100,000 held for unforeseen costs will not be unloaded unless there is an absolute emergency or specific requirement to do so. In order to make use of this emergency fund, the community (backers purchasing tokens in the ICO) will be asked to vote on this action.

Important notes:
  • I will not draw a wage from this project, so none of the tokens issued will be allocated to me. I am not seeking to get rich from this.
  • All backers will need to pass the necessary KYC and sanctions screening.
  • All accounts, payments and receipts will be made available for scrutiny.
  • All wages paid will be viewable on the blockchain.
  • If the 100,000 tokens for unforeseen/emergency costs is not used when the build completes, it will be allocated to the contractors and backers as a bonus.
  • The build progress will be fully documented. Feel free to ask me any questions about the boat or build process Smiley

Ok then, go ahead and rip the idea apart  Smiley If you guys think this is a really shit idea, then so be it.

You can easily fund and do this without tokens and it has nothing to do with blockchain. No one would buy these tokens, as there is no network effect.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Good time to buy ETH now? on: September 16, 2017, 02:20:26 PM
Anything under $300 is a grab for ether
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tezos: A Self-Amending Crypto-Ledger on: September 16, 2017, 02:19:05 PM
When are they launching? I invested in ICO but forget this existed.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: If Bitcoin were to ever reach $100k on: September 16, 2017, 02:16:14 PM
Could you imagine the volatility on a day to day basis? I mean we've seen it swing at these levels almost up to $500 on a day to day basis at times. Could you imagine what it would be like at $100k? $5,000 to $10,000 price swings daily? That's insane!

No, it stabilizes as market cap increases
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is stake? widely used for bounty like 1 stake/week on: September 16, 2017, 02:14:36 PM
It works like this:

A bounty is 1000 coins. If there is one person with one stake, he will get all the coins. If there are two people with one stake each, they will get 500 each. And so on. Bounty pool divided by total stakes gathered by participants times your stakes is how much coins you will get.

(pool / total stakes gathered by everyone) * your stakes = your coins

In the above example with 1000 coins and two people with 1 stake each:
(1000 / 2) * 1 = 500

Clear explanation. Thank you sir
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 16, 2017, 02:12:58 PM
Monero is the only cryptocurrency I see use besides bitcoin. Future looks bright.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Deep Onion on: September 16, 2017, 02:10:39 PM
I read this is scam and dev is staking premine? Is truth?
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH - will it go lower on: September 16, 2017, 02:09:22 PM
i don't agree with you. lets talk in december again. it will be hit 1000$ easy.

I hope so that ETH firstly cross 500$ because if BTC again falls, ETH will fall again and vice versa. So for ETH to rise, btc prices have to make a upwards shift. Also ETH in long term is a good investment coin but considering this year end ETH making 1000$ does not seem to be possible atleast for me.


Yeah me neither. People just like to make up numbers. $1000 means $75bn growth in market cap for ethereum, how is possible?
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ZEN is a superior version of ZCash, but only 2% of price? lot of development on: September 16, 2017, 02:07:31 PM


Bitcoin is taking most of the alt-coins down, but Zen is holding up well. In fact it's up over the last 24 hours. There appears to be a lot of accumulation going on now. Check out the Order Book, it's very lopsided on the bid side.

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ZEN



Indeed interesting. I will have a closer eye on this coin.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What will monday bring to us? on: September 16, 2017, 02:06:07 PM
Hey! Last week was crazy on bad news. Even more than the week before that. Every single day cryptoworld was literally attacked from all sides - China stopping ICOs, CNY trading and closing exchanges. JP Morgan CEO, Charlie Lee and Jihan Wu adding the fuel to the fire. Even Namibia banned crypto. Do you think it is over or is it only short break before monday?

Monday will hopefully bring beginning of the new bull run Cheesy We deserved it after all this chaos
15  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do You Waste Your Life On The Internet? on: August 13, 2017, 09:15:47 PM
I'm here reading your thread, so yes
16  Other / Off-topic / Re: who is the best football player? on: July 21, 2017, 08:57:44 AM
one word, messi  Cool
17  Other / Off-topic / Re: Suggest me a movie (Comedy, Drama & Action) on: July 21, 2017, 12:25:33 AM
The Warlords, very cinematic
18  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is there any gamer here in League of Legends? on: July 21, 2017, 12:16:31 AM
i am a big gamer i play 4 hours a day.
19  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is Your Plan for the Future? on: July 20, 2017, 11:41:29 PM
in 5 years? oh, hopefully married  Grin
20  Other / Off-topic / Re: Best Comedy Movies in Hollywood? on: July 20, 2017, 11:11:52 PM
back to the future  Cool
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