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By the way, he is not talking out of both sides of his mouth or making predictions. He gives you the numbers and turning points from the computer and the market shows you what it wants to do.
You really do not need to wait for his blog post (which talk about long term - not for trading short term), just look at Socrates.
Even though it's a work in progress and there are bugs, my trading has improved 1000 times once I got the hang of it, takes experience, learning, and repetition.
There are plenty of scammers out there that sell trade signals and promise you will be rich, he specifically says that he does not provide trade signals and never promises that, just access to his computer.
People going in with unrealistic expectations to get rich quick by reading the blog are going to be disappointed.
There is no 100% chance, trading is a game of probability. Find high probability set ups and use the right trade management, risk/reward, you will be successful. Notice he always says 'probable' 'likely' etc, the market price action is always right.
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Hey spammer, you're not bringing anything new to the discussion. Stop spamming. This isn't a general spamming forum.
You lost money, we get it. Take your loss and move on. This must have deeply affected you and your trading confidence. You're clearly showing signs of derangement.
Armstrong may speak out of both sides of his mouth, but he's certainly been pretty clear about the DOW being his focus.
I just discovered the ignore button and this thread got a million times better hahaa |
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Nasdaq broke the 10,000 barrier for another new all time high for the 5th consecutive day! Armstwrong is wrong again...
Did he tell you to short the Nasdaq? Take a look at the DOW. People who want to learn and get better or share their experience come join the FB community- Martin Armstrong/Socrates Traders - https://www.facebook.com/groups/154021879088365/ |
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I recently paid for several months of the Socrates PRO membership and during that time (beginning with MARCH 2020) I can confirm that Martin's PRO PRIVATE BLOGS indicated he was expecting a possibly deeper "correction" then what occured, and a shorter and less vigorous rally in the markets then what occurred. Moreover, the SOCRATES system is at best difficult for me to understand, and at worst a complete fraud. The constant PUSH is to get the subscriber to activate MARKET SUBSCRIPTIONS for every stock and ETF they own...so that you can receive these "reports" with the convoluted "forecasting" he makes available. At no time did I receive ANY forecast for TIME AND PRICE of any asset or index. In other words, if you are looking for a concise and operational forecasting service...this ain't it...and if you think that his service will enable you to be your own forecaster...all I can say, plop down the $150/month and give it a try. It's bullshit.
Armstrong is no doubt a skilled marketer and self promoter, and I might add, certainly knowledgeable about a wide variety of economic, political, and historical topics. Whether or not he actually has a reliable forecasting system up and running and which he sells to "Institutions" is a debate for another time. Whether or not he makes that system available to the GENERAL PUBLIC who subscribe to this PRO version ($150/month) is in my opinion easy to judge...he does not.
Notice that almost ALL of the so called financial "forecasters" do NOT publish an audited written record of the efficacy of their forecasts. There is obviously a reason for that. They don't want their record to be available for examination.
In short, in my opinion, Armstrong operates a predatory business to sheer the sheep. And he is a skilled practitioner. Beware.
Its not a forecasting service and he never marketed it as such. There are some tools that can be uses by a good trader to make money if he knows how to use them, and more importantly, how to trade in general. I could never go back to trading without it, after a while everything just came together and started clicking but it takes time and desire to learn. People who want to learn and get better or share their experience come join the FB community- Martin Armstrong/Socrates Traders - https://www.facebook.com/groups/154021879088365/ |
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Martin is useless when it comes to trading . He correctly call the low in march .but missed calling the huge rally . For gold ,he call the 1755 high correctly .a correction into second half for gold means the stock might see some really crazy action .. Posted byu/jonkuok
12 hours ago
20200603 US Share Market June
The NASDAQ Array has shown that June was the target with also a Directional Change due this month. This is 3 months from the low so we are still in a reactionary phase. Note how the strongest targets are September and then November during the elections.
Here we can see that is the NASDAQ exceeds 9750 on a closing basis, it can make a new high and then fail. This is likely if the Dow cannot exceed its Weekly Bullish in the 27000 level. Keep in mind that the low in the NASDAQ was 2002 - not 2009 as was the case in the Dow and S&P500. This is part of this Paradigm Shift and it is warning that this index may peak out as early as 2025. After missing a whopping 40+% rally of the lows, now Armstrong says that June was always the target. Bravo Marty, amazing forecast as usual! Dow Jones closed above 27000. Now what? Is Armstrong suddenly turning bullish, after missing an almost 50% rally of the lows?!? 24023018477
23 minutes ago
He has been calling for a drop since the start of April, now it is just embarrassing. There are many technical indicators showing the market is overbought a normal 5% + correction should occur in the next few weeks. Armstrong markets blog are so vague and open to interpretation. No one knows what the fuck they mean. Completely pointless.
The Corona Virus has been his Madoff moment and has exposed him for what he is. No doubt he has alot of knowledge and his blogs do provide some useful insight. But when it comes to forecasting and trading he is useless. Being a Permabull during a 11 year bull market has managed to hide some of his sort comings. This Reddit-guy is exactly right  He is useless but correctly called the low? Anyone who trades using Socrates come to the Facebook group. We have a pretty good crew and growing, none of these professional haters getting in the way. https://www.facebook.com/groups/154021879088365/ hope to see yous there! |
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https://vimeo.com/400842901This was from his conference Oct 19. I think Anonymous Coder is the real fraud trying to promote his website. Think, why would someone be so obsessed with hating on another man every day? If you don't find Socrates useful just don't use it, everything ain't for everyone.. Martin has been spot on the DOW. JAN 2018 called a sell to the day. Then foretasted a likely down to sideways market with, ideally a low in jan 2020. After the 18 high was exceeded we warned that a high on the 2020 turning point would indicate a severe correction there after. I have never seen anyone else even remotely more useful as Martin. The haters here are ether looking sort term or completely do not understand how to use socrates. I'ts not a magic computer giving you buy and sell signals, more like weather forecasting. Martins forecasts are very long term and he is often looking at charts where a year or quarter are one candle. As far as reversals and arrays, they tend to work great in a trending/volatile market even on the daily. Not so well in chop but you can trade against them as support/resistance on a range. As for him spending 11 years in jail, he was held in contempt the entire time without a charge and the people he supposedly defrauded did everything they could to help him and come to his defense... Anyone who is in the ECM group please send me an invite. the critical support in the dow during 2020 will be 24876.
the 2018 closing was 23327.46
therefore, to accomplish a 2020 low, the dow would need to close below the 2018 closing to keep that pattern intact. in other words, 2020 close of 23327.46 (below 2018 low) will mean it's a low... Oh really now?? So marty's convoluted thought process on a self fulfilling prophecy is: A low is a low when 2020 closing is lower than 2018 closing, therefore you have a low predicted by Socrates precisely to the day. otherwise, a closing above 24876 will raise the possibility of a high with a drop back down into 2021 before we see a resumption of the vertical market which is still on target for a 23-year high in 2032 in other words, a 2020 close of 24876 indicates a POSSIBILITY that it will be a high? or go higher? But it's just a possibility, so it could go lower, who knows!? and if 2020 is a high, then 2021 is a low, and then 2022 it just keeps on going up. People pay for this crap? All he is saying is a lower low is a low. and a higher high is a high. And are we going to completely ignore the FAILED OIL PREDICTIONS and the FAILED OIL ARRAYS!? PROOF https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg54266763#msg54266763HIS 1996 OIL ARRAYS FAILED TO FORECAST THE 2020 OIL CRASH! LOOK AT THE VIDEO AT 4:10. 2020. NO PANIC CYCLE! 2020. LITTLE TO NO VOLATILITY! Yes, these are all just possibilities, its not just so simple that the computer prints out a chart of the future for you. If the turning point approaches, AND you are seeing a high in the market, AND it bounces off a bullish reversal and doesn't elect, that gives you a high probability trade with a low downside stop above the reversal in case there is a cycle inversion. To be more sure you can choose to wait for price action confirmation or use whatever indicators you normally use. Everyone trades differently and uses this tool differently, just another tool in your toolbox. In fact he recommends on the site that you combine this with your own trading system. You don;t have to pay for it if you don't like, he never promised trading signals, it's a tool that many appreciate. There are many big money people that have followed this man for decades and gotten much richer, they do not mind paying the fee at all. Like I said, everything ain't for everyone, you don't like it just move on and do what works for you. |
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https://vimeo.com/400842901This was from his conference Oct 19. I think Anonymous Coder is the real fraud trying to promote his website. Think, why would someone be so obsessed with hating on another man every day? If you don't find Socrates useful just don't use it, everything ain't for everyone.. Martin has been spot on the DOW. JAN 2018 called a sell to the day. Then foretasted a likely down to sideways market with, ideally a low in jan 2020. After the 18 high was exceeded we warned that a high on the 2020 turning point would indicate a severe correction there after. I have never seen anyone else even remotely more useful as Martin. The haters here are ether looking sort term or completely do not understand how to use socrates. I'ts not a magic computer giving you buy and sell signals, more like weather forecasting. Martins forecasts are very long term and he is often looking at charts where a year or quarter are one candle. As far as reversals and arrays, they tend to work great in a trending/volatile market even on the daily. Not so well in chop but you can trade against them as support/resistance on a range. As for him spending 11 years in jail, he was held in contempt the entire time without a charge and the people he supposedly defrauded did everything they could to help him and come to his defense... Anyone who is in the ECM group please send me an invite. Hi Origin allow newbies to send you a private message under profile, personal message options Done |
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https://vimeo.com/400842901This was from his conference Oct 19. I think Anonymous Coder is the real fraud trying to promote his website. Think, why would someone be so obsessed with hating on another man every day? If you don't find Socrates useful just don't use it, everything ain't for everyone.. Martin has been spot on the DOW. JAN 2018 called a sell to the day. Then foretasted a likely down to sideways market with, ideally a low in jan 2020. After the 18 high was exceeded we warned that a high on the 2020 turning point would indicate a severe correction there after. I have never seen anyone else even remotely more useful as Martin. The haters here are ether looking sort term or completely do not understand how to use socrates. I'ts not a magic computer giving you buy and sell signals, more like weather forecasting. Martins forecasts are very long term and he is often looking at charts where a year or quarter are one candle. As far as reversals and arrays, they tend to work great in a trending/volatile market even on the daily. Not so well in chop but you can trade against them as support/resistance on a range. As for him spending 11 years in jail, he was held in contempt the entire time without a charge and the people he supposedly defrauded did everything they could to help him and come to his defense... Anyone who is in the ECM group please send me an invite.
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I have tried that before, and just tried again.
Gives me an error on startup
--------------BAD FORMED JSON: N-CcminerTruvot.json
This is what I have in the miner file:
"APIPort" : 4068,
"PrelaunchCommand":"C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe -profile3",
"Algorithms": [
Any time I change the prelaunch command it gives me that error and it goes away once I delete the command.
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I never used afterburner via command line but I supose must be something like that
c:\program files\afterburner\afterburner.exe -p 3
Look for afterburner command line help to see how invoke
Couldn't get it to work, I found this regarding what the command line should be -https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2105295.0 Whenever I put anything in the PrelaunchCommand it tells me 'Bad formed json' Here is what I tried: "PrelaunchCommand":"C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe -profile3" "PrelaunchCommand":""C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe" -profile3" "PrelaunchCommand":"C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe" -profile3 I noticed you have he new power limit feature (havent tried since I don't pay for electicity at my place). Would it be possible to use this to undervolt one algo (or miner with one algo)? That would be a ton simpler. Right now I just undervolted my entire rig but still got a shutdown on trupivot tribus last night. I believe that algo the power spikes so much that you have to just limit the whole thing to give it a larger margin of error (or upgrade psu). |
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I never used afterburner via command line but I supose must be something like that
c:\program files\afterburner\afterburner.exe -p 3
Look for afterburner command line help to see how invoke
Couldn't get it to work, I found this regarding what the command line should be -https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2105295.0 Whenever I put anything in the PrelaunchCommand it tells me 'Bad formed json' Here is what I tried: "PrelaunchCommand":"C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe -profile3" "PrelaunchCommand":""C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe" -profile3" "PrelaunchCommand":"C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe" -profile3 |
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I never used afterburner via command line but I supose must be something like that
c:\program files\afterburner\afterburner.exe -p 3
Look for afterburner command line help to see how invoke
Great thanks! If i have a prelaunch command for only one miner, will it return to the previous 'normal' profile when the miner closes? Or does it become necessary to set the 'normal' profile for every other miner? |
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Prelaunch command is at miner level (I expect change to algo level at future), for what you want you must make a copy of miner with that algos and let it alone with that two algos, let old miner without them.
Example:
Now
ccminerXXXX: algos: tribus, timetravel, algoX, algoY, algoZ, etc.
prelaunchcommand:""
Your desire
ccminerXXXX: algos: algoX, algoY, algoZ, etc.
prelaunchcommand:""
ccminerXXXX_v2: algos: tribus, timetravel
prelaunchcommand:"WHAT YOU WANT LAUNCH BEFORE"
Thanks for getting back to me. I now understand how to split up the miner into 2 copies with different algo in each, and I see where you would add he prelaunch command. I dont understand what I would put between the quotes of the prelaunch command. For example if I want to launch msi afterburner on preset 3 what would I write? I have never done something like this before, sorry. |
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Hi Tutulino,
Great progress on the script, it has come a long way!
Thanks for remembering my old suggestion to handicap the mining pools based on actual observation of overestimation, also the delay close miner feature is great!
I have a question about this feature:
-Option for asociate command to launch before run to each miner (nvidia inspector for example to set overclock)
Does this mean I can provide different afterburner profiles to different algos?
I would like to under volt timetravel and tribus algo because my rig sometimes crash,how would I implement this?
Can you give an example of how to implement this feature please?
Best,
Alex
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I was wondering, are the pools fees considered when calculating profitability?
Some pools have a separate fee for auto exchange, MPH is 0.2% extra. I read in the zpool thread auto exchange fee is 5%.
Also, do all pools have the same methodology when calculating profitability? Do some include fees while other's don't?
I guess my question is are the pools handicapped based on the difference in fees when selecting which coin to mine?
Great script, thanks again!
I think pools profit calc is far from exact, more than 5% error. Has sense try to add so exact calcs? I think the best solution is to allow users to 'handicap' certain pools based on own observed actual profitability vs reported. For example user may want to handicap zpool at least 5% for the exchange fee they would put zpool.95 or something like that. Also user may want to handicap Suprnova because when you go to exchange there will be some slippage, so maybe an option to handicap each coin would be useful as well. On another note I think it would be a good idea to use yiimp alongside supernova with the wtm pool. Difficulty could be lower on one or the other. Anyway these are just suggestions, I know you are busy and have your own priorities for the script. It is very good as is. |
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I have different usernames in MPH and Suprnova. Any way to add an username for each? Or am I better off creating a new account on Suprnova?
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Not necessary new suprnova login, you can edit suprnova.json file on pools folder and replace :
User = "$Username.$WorkerName"
to
User = "YOURSPRNOVALOGIN.$WorkerName"
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This worked for me on before but since the new update it gives me a authentication error.
I remember before I edited $username in 2 places in the suprnova file, but this time it I only found it in one place (end of the page).
Turned off wtm virtual for now.
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I was wondering, are the pools fees considered when calculating profitability?
Some pools have a separate fee for auto exchange, MPH is 0.2% extra. I read in the zpool thread auto exchange fee is 5%.
Also, do all pools have the same methodology when calculating profitability? Do some include fees while other's don't?
I guess my question is are the pools handicapped based on the difference in fees when selecting which coin to mine?
Great script, thanks again!
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Awesome script, easy to set up, thank you!
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Multupool.us now offers Bitconnect coin mining. It's one of the longest running auto switch pools, works great with nicehash (it's on their list of recommended pools). https://www.multipool.us/dashboard/pool/bcc
Could you please add the pool to your list on the first post? |
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