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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 28, 2019, 06:50:41 PM
Is Binance really going to start its own decentralized exchange like Idex or ForkDelta? I think it will be quite an interesting thing as Binance credibility is already well known across the crypto community. This will lead to an unprecedented growth in its BNB token too.  Cool

no matter how credible or reputable thier site is  , there's still a chance that they can get hacked . so dont be too confident enough mate  but still the idea of binance making a dex exchange is still great  . as they can give way to the bounty huntes or airdrop hunters like me   .  i think ill have my new favorite aside from etherdelta and forkedelta .

meanwhile , the price of bnb tokens will still depend on the demand  . if many people buy it then the price will rise but if not then the price will still be stable .

The interesting part is that on DEX we are trading not BTC, but BTC-B - token of Binance Chain that is equivalent of BTC. You will still need to have an account on Binance Centralized Exchange to withdraw BTC from DEX.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 26, 2019, 08:41:48 AM
It is impossible to guess the things at the beginning of their DEX platform because with the HYPE the price of BNB is kept increasing, Yes, DEX platform is one of the major improvement for the companies launching their ICO under this Binance blockchain.

That is right. The worlkflow where you can launch an ICO, collect funds and then get listed at least on DEX within one ecosystem can become a game changer.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 24, 2019, 09:57:33 PM
I think that Binance DEX is a hybrid exchange. I think that it’s not very bad that Binance Dex works on a centralized blockchain.

That is right. We will see what will happen next.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 24, 2019, 09:55:50 PM
Op post is a bit confusing. In one part he said the tokens will be listed for free and in another part said developers will pay $100,000 in bnb to list on the decentralized exchange. How much exactly is going to be paid for listing?

How permissionless is the exchange by the way? . Why does the exchange hold people's private? It is a bit scary idea.

The rumors say listing on DEX will be $100.000. Take into account that you will be trading tokens on Binance exchange which are equivalent of tokens or coins and not the coins. So it will be BTC-B and not BTC.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 23, 2019, 09:52:29 AM
since they are enforcing KYC on nearly all of their users nowadays and also they are under a lot of pressure from the government and that will only increase over time, i am going to say with confidence that what they create is NOT going to be decentralized.

basically every time you see a "company" create something, it can not be decentralized and even if they call it that, it won't make it so.

The fact that half of Binance Chain nodes will belong to Binance proves that DEX is not quite decentralized. But we will see how that thing will go. Gaining popularity will make some people parse into database the chain records and if something changes shit will float above water anyway. That is some kind of overvwatch. Lets see what the chain will look like.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 23, 2019, 09:04:19 AM
I think Binance will give a really high-quality product, and this will be the first exchange that is really convenient for users.


Looks like Binance can push another wave of ICO/STO/Other crowdfunding using cryptocurrency if their launch pad will start working the way they plan it.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 22, 2019, 04:29:00 PM
Binance DEX is decentralized or not?

I dont believe right now any exchange is fully decentralized. There are many exchanges trying to become decentralized one day. But to achieve that there is need a lot of developing. One of first exchanges that tried that was https://bisq.network/ at that time named Bitsquare. They started developing before 2013. I believe they are most decentralized of all exchanges at this point of time.

The only question is why the trading volume is that low?
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bisq/
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 22, 2019, 04:24:54 PM
Binance DEX is decentralized or not?

I dont believe right now any exchange is fully decentralized. There are many exchanges trying to become decentralized one day. But to achieve that there is need a lot of developing. One of first exchanges that tried that was https://bisq.network/ at that time named Bitsquare. They started developing before 2013. I believe they are most decentralized of all exchanges at this point of time.

Right. Look at SEC applying fine to the founder of etherdelta. That example showed that everybody is under the gun.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 22, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
What does DEX mean? decentralized exchange.lol
I guess Binance DEX will bring a different perspective to the meaning of decentralized exchange. Until now, the decentralized exchange seemed useless, but many things will change if the name is Binance.
I don't think non-central exchange is useless. There are a lot of traders participating in decentralized trading floors to hunt for cheap tokens and surf easily. I and more than 20 people in my group are still surfing at decentralized exchanges and it is quite effective.
But the problem here is that Binance's security is as certain as it was at the beginning after it was decentralized. Investors believe in Binance because their security system is good, and this decentralized news seems unlikely if it encounters any minor problems.

I think that DEX is useful for more qualified people rather than mass adoption. Remembering way back the flipping activity and also trading for groups that like to stay unknown.
Due to the lack of interface and UI it is not helping mass adoption. Binance DEX is better than what we saw before: loads quicker, interface a bit nicer. But lets be honest which exchange has more users: centralized or decentralized? And the reason is mostly in user friendlyness (in terms of UX and UI) and ability to have orders of varius size being matched. May be Binance will somehow cross match with orders from centralized exchange and that will do it. We will see.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 22, 2019, 04:18:25 PM
BinanceDEX will not only bring up its own decentralized exchange, rather it will also transform the face of decentralization as a whole. Before it is lunched, its already being propagated and many are now aware that it will be lunched and are seriously waiting for it. Just recently, the news has also made BNB to increase in price, which means that by the time it is lunched and i use, BNB will be made to migrate to the Binancechain, because the DEX will be on its own blockchain and will definitely cause more increase in its price.

Do you really think that DEX will help mass adoption? Or what do you mean by that message?
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 22, 2019, 09:20:58 AM
What does DEX mean? decentralized exchange.lol
I guess Binance DEX will bring a different perspective to the meaning of decentralized exchange. Until now, the decentralized exchange seemed useless, but many things will change if the name is Binance.

Yes. DEX means Decentralized Exchange.


I guess Binance DEX will bring a different perspective to the meaning of decentralized exchange. Until now, the decentralized exchange seemed useless, but many things will change if the name is Binance.

It looks like Binance has huge plans on remaking the overall tokenization landscape. Alone with DEX they have launchpad where ICOs will take place using BNB (Binance Token). So you make an ICO with greater chance to be listed on Binance Exchange. If not listed on Centralized Exchange you get listed on Binance DEX. The difference in listing pricing (rumors):
Listing on Binance Exchange - $4-5 millions
Listing on Binance DEX $100 K

Lets see where it will lead us.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Binance DEX is decentralized or not? BNB token will go up or down? on: February 22, 2019, 07:23:37 AM
There are a lot of discussion of new DEX from Binance being released soon on its own blockchain with BNB tokens. Lets clearify a few things so nobody inside our community will have misunderstanding about what is taking place.

Nowadays founders of centralized cryptocurrency exchanges try to transfer them to decentralized one as CEX fall under various regulations. However, to make such transformation in the way that decentralized exchanges work properly and quickly and have the liquidity is almost impossible. Either something like DEX is done, or DEX is done which works slowly. There is no possibility for the moment to make a secure blockchain with 1 billion transactions.

Everyone is aware of DEX from Binance. Binance took an existing solution on the Tendermint, changed it a bit and made its own blockchain. Such blockchain will consist of 11 nodes that will work on the principle of proof-of-stake, i.e. those who will have more binance tokens will make decisions. Half of the nodes will belong to the Binance. It turns out that there are only 11 transaction confirmation centers so it is very hard to name such platform as decentralized one. For example, EOS also has only 21 nodes, which provide the governance on the blockchain, but these 21 nodes are those which have been already selected and another 200-300 nodes are in the queue for the moment.

Governance at DEX decides which projects to list or not to list. A listing at Binance DEX will cost $ 100,000 in binance tokens. Blocks will appear every second, that is, transactions will be so fast that they will be able to fit the entire volume of transactions that are at Binance CEX now. But the truth is that they will fit the deals of those users who trade with each other and who place limit orders, but there are 10-15% of such deals at the exchange. The rest of the volume, which is inflated by market makers, will not be there. In the first days of the Binance DEX operation, it will be clear what real volume is. The founder CZ says that they want to list all the tokens, but they do not have enough technical power to do this. On the other hand, he claims that Binance DEX can turn around the 10 times volume. There are a number of nuances. Firstly, it is a fear to list new tokens. Secondly, few people are now ready to pay 3-5 million dollars to be listed at the Binance DEX.

One more thing is that you do not trade tokens at Binance DEX, but trade b-tokens, at the rate of 1 b token to 1 real token. In order to exchange your b-tokens for regular tokens, you need to come to CEX in any way. This is all done in order to increase the rate of bnb.


There are two different technologies that are necessary to distinguish. They are Binance DEX technology as a cryptocurrency exchange and marketing company in order to make a pump of binance token. The founder of Binance says that there are a huge number of projects that are ready to do ICO with the help of a launchpad on the Binance blockchain and they will be given a priority. And now all start-ups will seek the opportunity to be placed there, but before they come there in addition to the BitTorent Binance DEX need to place Netscape Navigator, Qip, WinRAR, Skype, as there are a large number of companies that are dying without a token. (smile goes here) So, they can be tokenized and brought back to life by placing them in the blockchain of Binance.

A kind of ecosystem is being developed in which the token of Binance is used. The more binance tokens are kept in the stack, in the node that verifies the transaction, are used as a bitcoin substitute tokens, which are traded at the IDEX and as an investment in ICO the bigger reduction in circulation and reduction in supply are caused. And when some projects need to buy bnb tokens and pay 100,000 dollars for the listing at Binance DEX, they will come to the market, but no one will sell bnb tokens to them. Such cases will cause an increase in prices of bnb tokens. So the truth is that CZ has created a good market condition for increasing of the bnb token price, but the Binance DEX is not decentralized cryptocurrency exchange as it is. But as the mass do not use DEXes, Binance gave us a hybrid of a private blockchain in order to trade and make an imitation of DEX.

One more interesting fact is that Binance declares that you can immediately trade from your hard wallet at DEX. You connect it in 2fa, synchronized it in blockchain and your keys remain with you and the exchange cannot do anything with them. However, the keys are stored in the private blockchain of Binance. But the truth is that it is an enterprise blockchain solution in order to pump bnb token.

The more transaction in the blockchain, the less security. There will be a lot of transactions in the Binance DEX and thus the question arises if there is any problem with the Binance services, whether the Binance will be held the responsibility. Perhaps this is the first step of decentralization. But for now, this is a very successful, very good, excellent marketing campaign, which pretends to be not what it is.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Telegram ico groups on: November 16, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
What is the best telegram ico groups? 

I think it depends on language. What language do you prefer?

English will be perfect

Most of the english chats can be devided into three major groups:
1. Project Chats
2. Chats that throw sh*t on projects plate
3. General promotion chats.

The last group that is not part of those three are private chats within communities that are analyzing project for a year/1.5 years. If you are not part of them than I guess there is almost no way getting there right now.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Telegram ico groups on: November 16, 2018, 03:02:54 PM
What is the best telegram ico groups? 

I think it depends on language. What language do you prefer?
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH Fight Club: Ethereum based game - provide your feedback please on: July 30, 2018, 02:40:03 PM
THE ETH Fight Club

Looking for a feedback on the following idea.

We want to create a game based on Fight Club idea where you fight other players for tokens. You train on arenas, fight other players and then take participate in tournaments to win token reward of various projects. Cool

Projects carry out championships dedicated to their release, stages of crowdsale to attract community attention to their events. Shocked

Players can choose what tournament to participate in and therefore show the interest of community to projects. The more experience players want to participate in your tournament the more attention of the community you probably have. Grin

Each player can have additional items and creatures to improve skill sets and stats. Wink

We want to implement the economy of the project in the following way:
1) The most active community members can be tournament organizers and get percentage of rewards.
2) Artists can participate in creation of items and creatures and get sales commission.
3) Players can organize marketplaces, manage them and get percentage on sales.

Your propositions are welcome.

If you think this idea worth a while join project telegram group and let`s discuss it. https://t.me/ethfc

First thousand players will surely get benefits from early bird participation.


There are quite few question about the game itself:

What will the game play include?
How will be the fight process implemented?
Will there be a reward for fights only during tournaments?
Will the player community be able to choose tournament organizers to select those worth trusting?
How will the tokens be distributed?
Will the game be on chain or offchain?
What types of items or creatures there will be?
Will you guys allow items from other games to be used inside your game?
How will the experience grow and affect stats or fight process?
What will it take for you to make the initial prototype?
What do you need to understand that you need to start development of this project?

I might get more questions but this is enough to start with. Thanks.
16  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best Cryptocurrency to Invest? on: July 30, 2018, 02:34:37 PM
Investing into your own education is the best choice at this stage of the market because it may still go down. There was an interesting article about crypto winter that we are potentially in. Let`s hope it is not that bad.
17  Economy / Economics / Re: Are we really heading towards another financial crisis? on: July 30, 2018, 02:30:45 PM
If we will get into a fiancial crysis then crypto will be a preferable storage of value. But the resutls of crysis could be various as far as we undrestand that it might have huge effect on local economies and currencies.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: why people selling below ICO price and the future of ico ? on: July 30, 2018, 01:49:53 PM
Some people receive tokens for bounty program.
Some get discounts on early stage of token sale.
Some want to leave the project asap because of market situation, token price fall for any reason to save at least some money invested.
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin making the world go crazy? on: July 30, 2018, 01:47:35 PM
There are quite few motivations:
1) Get quick profits.
2) Use it value storage to save some money for the future.
3) Get connected to the technology and be up to speed.
4) Get funds for an idea.
5) Understand financing as a new knowledge area.
6) Join early market to become a professional in the future.

20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are the best ways to make money on bitcointalk with your account? Bounties? on: April 14, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
Are there any services connected to ICO reviews or ICO Due Diligence where my skills can be exchanged for money?
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