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February 22, 2019, 07:23:37 AM
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There are a lot of discussion of new DEX from Binance being released soon on its own blockchain with BNB tokens. Lets clearify a few things so nobody inside our community will have misunderstanding about what is taking place.

Nowadays founders of centralized cryptocurrency exchanges try to transfer them to decentralized one as CEX fall under various regulations. However, to make such transformation in the way that decentralized exchanges work properly and quickly and have the liquidity is almost impossible. Either something like DEX is done, or DEX is done which works slowly. There is no possibility for the moment to make a secure blockchain with 1 billion transactions.

Everyone is aware of DEX from Binance. Binance took an existing solution on the Tendermint, changed it a bit and made its own blockchain. Such blockchain will consist of 11 nodes that will work on the principle of proof-of-stake, i.e. those who will have more binance tokens will make decisions. Half of the nodes will belong to the Binance. It turns out that there are only 11 transaction confirmation centers so it is very hard to name such platform as decentralized one. For example, EOS also has only 21 nodes, which provide the governance on the blockchain, but these 21 nodes are those which have been already selected and another 200-300 nodes are in the queue for the moment.

Governance at DEX decides which projects to list or not to list. A listing at Binance DEX will cost $ 100,000 in binance tokens. Blocks will appear every second, that is, transactions will be so fast that they will be able to fit the entire volume of transactions that are at Binance CEX now. But the truth is that they will fit the deals of those users who trade with each other and who place limit orders, but there are 10-15% of such deals at the exchange. The rest of the volume, which is inflated by market makers, will not be there. In the first days of the Binance DEX operation, it will be clear what real volume is. The founder CZ says that they want to list all the tokens, but they do not have enough technical power to do this. On the other hand, he claims that Binance DEX can turn around the 10 times volume. There are a number of nuances. Firstly, it is a fear to list new tokens. Secondly, few people are now ready to pay 3-5 million dollars to be listed at the Binance DEX.

One more thing is that you do not trade tokens at Binance DEX, but trade b-tokens, at the rate of 1 b token to 1 real token. In order to exchange your b-tokens for regular tokens, you need to come to CEX in any way. This is all done in order to increase the rate of bnb.


There are two different technologies that are necessary to distinguish. They are Binance DEX technology as a cryptocurrency exchange and marketing company in order to make a pump of binance token. The founder of Binance says that there are a huge number of projects that are ready to do ICO with the help of a launchpad on the Binance blockchain and they will be given a priority. And now all start-ups will seek the opportunity to be placed there, but before they come there in addition to the BitTorent Binance DEX need to place Netscape Navigator, Qip, WinRAR, Skype, as there are a large number of companies that are dying without a token. (smile goes here) So, they can be tokenized and brought back to life by placing them in the blockchain of Binance.

A kind of ecosystem is being developed in which the token of Binance is used. The more binance tokens are kept in the stack, in the node that verifies the transaction, are used as a bitcoin substitute tokens, which are traded at the IDEX and as an investment in ICO the bigger reduction in circulation and reduction in supply are caused. And when some projects need to buy bnb tokens and pay 100,000 dollars for the listing at Binance DEX, they will come to the market, but no one will sell bnb tokens to them. Such cases will cause an increase in prices of bnb tokens. So the truth is that CZ has created a good market condition for increasing of the bnb token price, but the Binance DEX is not decentralized cryptocurrency exchange as it is. But as the mass do not use DEXes, Binance gave us a hybrid of a private blockchain in order to trade and make an imitation of DEX.

One more interesting fact is that Binance declares that you can immediately trade from your hard wallet at DEX. You connect it in 2fa, synchronized it in blockchain and your keys remain with you and the exchange cannot do anything with them. However, the keys are stored in the private blockchain of Binance. But the truth is that it is an enterprise blockchain solution in order to pump bnb token.

The more transaction in the blockchain, the less security. There will be a lot of transactions in the Binance DEX and thus the question arises if there is any problem with the Binance services, whether the Binance will be held the responsibility. Perhaps this is the first step of decentralization. But for now, this is a very successful, very good, excellent marketing campaign, which pretends to be not what it is.
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February 22, 2019, 08:33:06 AM
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What does DEX mean? decentralized exchange.lol
I guess Binance DEX will bring a different perspective to the meaning of decentralized exchange. Until now, the decentralized exchange seemed useless, but many things will change if the name is Binance.
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February 22, 2019, 09:20:58 AM
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What does DEX mean? decentralized exchange.lol
I guess Binance DEX will bring a different perspective to the meaning of decentralized exchange. Until now, the decentralized exchange seemed useless, but many things will change if the name is Binance.

Yes. DEX means Decentralized Exchange.


I guess Binance DEX will bring a different perspective to the meaning of decentralized exchange. Until now, the decentralized exchange seemed useless, but many things will change if the name is Binance.

It looks like Binance has huge plans on remaking the overall tokenization landscape. Alone with DEX they have launchpad where ICOs will take place using BNB (Binance Token). So you make an ICO with greater chance to be listed on Binance Exchange. If not listed on Centralized Exchange you get listed on Binance DEX. The difference in listing pricing (rumors):
Listing on Binance Exchange - $4-5 millions
Listing on Binance DEX $100 K

Lets see where it will lead us.
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February 22, 2019, 01:52:56 PM
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BinanceDEX will not only bring up its own decentralized exchange, rather it will also transform the face of decentralization as a whole. Before it is lunched, its already being propagated and many are now aware that it will be lunched and are seriously waiting for it. Just recently, the news has also made BNB to increase in price, which means that by the time it is lunched and i use, BNB will be made to migrate to the Binancechain, because the DEX will be on its own blockchain and will definitely cause more increase in its price.
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February 22, 2019, 01:57:02 PM
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One more thing is that you do not trade tokens at Binance DEX, but trade b-tokens, at the rate of 1 b token to 1 real token. In order to exchange your b-tokens for regular tokens, you need to come to CEX in any way. This is all done in order to increase the rate of bnb.




So its not even a real DEX if it requires "wrapped" tokens

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February 22, 2019, 02:03:50 PM
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What does DEX mean? decentralized exchange.lol
I guess Binance DEX will bring a different perspective to the meaning of decentralized exchange. Until now, the decentralized exchange seemed useless, but many things will change if the name is Binance.
I don't think non-central exchange is useless. There are a lot of traders participating in decentralized trading floors to hunt for cheap tokens and surf easily. I and more than 20 people in my group are still surfing at decentralized exchanges and it is quite effective.
But the problem here is that Binance's security is as certain as it was at the beginning after it was decentralized. Investors believe in Binance because their security system is good, and this decentralized news seems unlikely if it encounters any minor problems.

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February 22, 2019, 02:18:05 PM
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February 22, 2019, 03:21:19 PM
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Binance DEX is decentralized or not?

I dont believe right now any exchange is fully decentralized. There are many exchanges trying to become decentralized one day. But to achieve that there is need a lot of developing. One of first exchanges that tried that was https://bisq.network/ at that time named Bitsquare. They started developing before 2013. I believe they are most decentralized of all exchanges at this point of time.
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February 22, 2019, 03:42:18 PM
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Binance DEX is decentralized or not?

I dont believe right now any exchange is fully decentralized. There are many exchanges trying to become decentralized one day. But to achieve that there is need a lot of developing. One of first exchanges that tried that was https://bisq.network/ at that time named Bitsquare. They started developing before 2013. I believe they are most decentralized of all exchanges at this point of time.
Binance still has a fully control over its exchange site and it means if that was not truly decentralized exchange site. I have heard bitsquare but there was a possibility if that could be centralized too.
Some people said there was no true dex.

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February 22, 2019, 04:18:25 PM
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BinanceDEX will not only bring up its own decentralized exchange, rather it will also transform the face of decentralization as a whole. Before it is lunched, its already being propagated and many are now aware that it will be lunched and are seriously waiting for it. Just recently, the news has also made BNB to increase in price, which means that by the time it is lunched and i use, BNB will be made to migrate to the Binancechain, because the DEX will be on its own blockchain and will definitely cause more increase in its price.

Do you really think that DEX will help mass adoption? Or what do you mean by that message?
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February 22, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
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What does DEX mean? decentralized exchange.lol
I guess Binance DEX will bring a different perspective to the meaning of decentralized exchange. Until now, the decentralized exchange seemed useless, but many things will change if the name is Binance.
I don't think non-central exchange is useless. There are a lot of traders participating in decentralized trading floors to hunt for cheap tokens and surf easily. I and more than 20 people in my group are still surfing at decentralized exchanges and it is quite effective.
But the problem here is that Binance's security is as certain as it was at the beginning after it was decentralized. Investors believe in Binance because their security system is good, and this decentralized news seems unlikely if it encounters any minor problems.

I think that DEX is useful for more qualified people rather than mass adoption. Remembering way back the flipping activity and also trading for groups that like to stay unknown.
Due to the lack of interface and UI it is not helping mass adoption. Binance DEX is better than what we saw before: loads quicker, interface a bit nicer. But lets be honest which exchange has more users: centralized or decentralized? And the reason is mostly in user friendlyness (in terms of UX and UI) and ability to have orders of varius size being matched. May be Binance will somehow cross match with orders from centralized exchange and that will do it. We will see.
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February 22, 2019, 04:24:32 PM
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BNB is Binance's coin so it has a good future. Its price continues to rise for a short time. Binance DEX is a new development of Binance but we need differences in the market. We can't say anything when it still doesn't work.

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February 22, 2019, 04:24:54 PM
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Binance DEX is decentralized or not?

I dont believe right now any exchange is fully decentralized. There are many exchanges trying to become decentralized one day. But to achieve that there is need a lot of developing. One of first exchanges that tried that was https://bisq.network/ at that time named Bitsquare. They started developing before 2013. I believe they are most decentralized of all exchanges at this point of time.

Right. Look at SEC applying fine to the founder of etherdelta. That example showed that everybody is under the gun.
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February 22, 2019, 04:29:00 PM
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Binance DEX is decentralized or not?

I dont believe right now any exchange is fully decentralized. There are many exchanges trying to become decentralized one day. But to achieve that there is need a lot of developing. One of first exchanges that tried that was https://bisq.network/ at that time named Bitsquare. They started developing before 2013. I believe they are most decentralized of all exchanges at this point of time.

The only question is why the trading volume is that low?
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bisq/
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I think Binance will give a really high-quality product, and this will be the first exchange that is really convenient for users.

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February 23, 2019, 09:04:19 AM
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I think Binance will give a really high-quality product, and this will be the first exchange that is really convenient for users.


Looks like Binance can push another wave of ICO/STO/Other crowdfunding using cryptocurrency if their launch pad will start working the way they plan it.
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February 23, 2019, 09:17:34 AM
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I can't believe it that Binance will create complete DEX! I think they want to make a profit from all areas on crypto world. But they won't want to loose control on their platform what ever happens. It names maybe DEX but I don't think it won't.
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February 23, 2019, 09:21:11 AM
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Binance DEX is not true decentralized exchange, I would rather say that it is a hybrid exchange.
They want to start with only few nodes and that makes it centralized.

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February 23, 2019, 09:30:37 AM
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I think Binance will give a really high-quality product, and this will be the first exchange that is really convenient for users.

I hope so.
The big problem with any dex up until now is that they are not user friendly at all.

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since they are enforcing KYC on nearly all of their users nowadays and also they are under a lot of pressure from the government and that will only increase over time, i am going to say with confidence that what they create is NOT going to be decentralized.

basically every time you see a "company" create something, it can not be decentralized and even if they call it that, it won't make it so.

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