Thanks

And all possibly true, but the one really odd thing is that I have four Blockchain.com wallets, three of them had small sums in and I just used them to play about with a few things without risking my main wallet which I do not go near, none of them are linked in anyway I might add.

Funny how they went straight to the one and only well paying Blockchain wallet without even touching the other three which I never gave a shit about and had little security.

Was talking to a pretty clued up programmer this weekend in Cambridge who plays about with crypto, his money is someone working at or connected with blockchain.com

I think I get what you are saying, and I did create a wallet with electrum, I am looking at it right now and it the password to get into it is encrypted and it is called a default wallet(standard).

So are you saying that was not secure enough?, at the time everyone highly recommended it to me for safety

I fully am conscious of that happening and it was a text that contacted me and I never replied to it anyway, it just prompted me to log on with a different laptop to see what was going on, but the text was genuine regardless and anyway the money had left my wallet as a slept 6 hours earlier.

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No, that is not right, my 2fa was always turned on for extra security, this is one of my main points if you read my posts fully is how was it switched off because it was not me, that was my trigger when  I found out

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I am just wondering if the 2fa would automatically be switched off if someone used the seed phrase because then it would not really matter, when you have the seed phrase all the security  no longer matters

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Interesting points and at least someone who is asking the same questions as me.

You have to just trust me in that nobody gets anything out of me in anyway when it comes to Bitcoin, I am that bad that I am reluctant  to even tell people I have it.
The only information(not shared though) was when I attempted to use my seed phrase in Electrum to import my Bitcoin which was then classed as a very secure wallet and the only place ever I attempted to use it because back in 2021 thousands of us panicked when we thought blockchain had screwed up.

But I never typed it in anywhere except my electrum wallet


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For the first 4 days that was the biggest one with me and maybe still is as to how my 2fa could be switched off, they would first need to get around my 2fa to switch 2fa off if you get my meaning.

The reason I mentioned the £23, £46 and £65 sums is that it could have been a sign that blockchain.com's software had screwed up.

But I have to admit now the biggest clue is the Electrum thing, only 6 items logged in it's entire 2 year history and they happened within minutes of my money vanish in blockchain, but what is the connection, nobody can give me an answer

You are a totally ignorant rude cunt.

Just ban me if this is your attitude all the time because this place is of no use to me if this is your attitude.

I asked a civil polite question.

Explain to me what happened there and I would have backed off, I have no idea whatsoever what is going on here or what your problem is coward

I was trying to find answers to a recent hack on my wallet?

What did I do or say

Look, lets start from scratch in a clear set of sequences as to what happened to me but because as helpful as so many people are many just do not read opening posts and just blurt out anything that is not relevant to my question, and bare in mind as clear as I have made it that it is probably something dumb that I have done, hands up. But I am still  eager to know and as a learning curve want to know where it was that I was compromised.

This is it more clearly.

1. Opened a blockchain wallet in 2018

2. fine for 3 years and then in 2021 many blockchain users were shut out of their wallets for a few months, some(including myself) were advised to import to a better wallet using the seed phrase and I created a spectrum wallet to do that.

3. I attempted to do this on my new spectrum wallet and this would of been my first ever use of it, I was struggling with it so left it a few days and in the mean time Blockchain.com fixed their issues(sever problem is I remember correctly) and problem was solved.

4.  So I now had a spectrum wallet and no use for it though I still kept it on hand and password etc hidden way, it sat there unused and not touched until yesterday(2 years), we will come onto that in a minute.

5.last Friday I had a text from blockchain 2fa had been turned off(though could not of been me)  5 minutes later and first time in a month or two I checked blockchain wallet to see that it had been robbed(probably)

6. Since last Friday all I have really wanted to do was know from what area/angle or source they had got to me with no thought of spectrum, as far as I was concerned it was a f*** up by me or blockchain but for the life of me I cannot see how anyone got through the blockchain security that was well hidden away and protected.

7. Still unclear how and what happened and I can see the record in blockchain of my crypto leaving my wallet in six stages at 1 am on the 17th Feb, I just thought I would check my spectrum wallet for the first time in two years and went to history and the only events in all that time that happened were the day I  created a spectrum wallet in early 2021 and six events that happen(precisely the same time as my blockchain departing) at 1 am on the 17th Feb, odds are that this is nearly an impossible coincidence.

8. So for the record I have never had any crypto in my spectrum wallet and it has only been looked  a couple of times in 2 years in the early days it was created. The 6 events that make no sense to me are not wallets or sums of Btc, they make no sense at all to me and are just numbers, but they are events that happened that I am sure are connected somehow.
Yes someone could have somehow got my seed phrases but all the information would have been on blockchain.com(which it is) and spectrum does not even come into the equation as it should not even be relevant.

In all probability it is something I have done, the only thing is I cannot work out what I have done wrong.

In 2021 I could not get access to my bitcoin in Blockchain so I  opened a spectrum account/wallet and tried to import my bitcoin to spectrum which never worked at the time and I tried to use my seed phrase to do this.

I am not sure what I have done wrong here and the only place that my seed phrase was exposed to was my spectrum wallet which at the time I thought I must have been doing wrong, it's only now two years later something seems to have happened, maybe my bitcoin is in spectrum?, all I know is that something happened in spectrum on Friday six times where nothing at all has happened in two years and that is the same night my bitcoin left blockchain.

I am probably wrong here as usual but my seed phrase being in my spectrum wallet I cannot see how that is a problem, from what I have heard it is safer, that is the only time ever I tried to use it.

Actually there is still a good chance that it  has been and I have lost a few £1000, at least that is what I have 100% thought for the last 4 days and now I have a little hope and it's a weird one

But just for starters and I know someone will give me stick here as I partly use a blockchain.com among others and I have spread my risk around, I am not very clued up on crypto and just HODL and leave my wallets alone apart from a little trading on Binance.

Last week I had a text from blockchain notifying me that my 2fa security had been removed around 1 am in the morning while I slept and I saw it at 7am, I went straight onto my blockchain.com wallet but the first thing I wondered was how could someone remove my 2fa security when they first needed 2fa to get into the wallet to then remove it, I tried to explain that to Blockchain.com.

But anyway I could see my wallet was empty and thought shit, I then could see 6 transaction were sent early in the morning  and it wasn't me so I have basically just thought lesson learnt. And just for the record I am super security conscious and there is no chance that I would tell anyone anything about seeds, passwords or wallet ID. But there was just this one case way back in 2021 where loads of us could not access our wallets and customer service was totally crap so what I was a advised was open another wallet and use my seed phrases. I used Electrum as they had a good name but found it difficult to use and could not get my head around it so just gave up in the end and trusted it to God and thankfully it all got sorted out and I just left the wallet for years and left some funds in it and just checked once in a while.

So I have had the Electrum account set up for years and never looked at it since and for the first time opened it up today grasping at straws and what did I see but 6 events only in my history all happening on the same day and within an hour of all my transactions in Blockchain.com, coincidence or connected but how?
I am still sure if it is my Btc and Eth there because all the jargon makes no sense and in all my years I have never sent Btc wallet to wallet, like I said I just mostly HODL.

But there is also one other thing, when I checked my blockchain wallet a few times this last few days it was left with only £29 and I thought why have the thieving shits done that, but a few days later it went to £43 and today it is £65, I cannot work any of this out.

But for the last 4 days the only thought in my head was how could this be hacked, there are 4 stages to the security and it just did not make sense.

Have had my Bitcoin in a blockchain wallet for a while now and not been a problem, I log on with my Number and my password and the email verification comes through and I accept and all is OK, has worked fine for ages now.

But since Friday my email verification is not arriving my end so unable to get into my account, now tried about 20 times with no luck. Tried my best on their support page and now in line with a ticket number. Normally I would not be too concerned and I just hold Bitcoin, never try and send it anywhere so feel quite secure I have not done anything dumb. But there is always that nagging doubt and more so now that it is starting to be worth quite a bit

Read quite a lot of stuff in the last few hours of it happening to other people, but still a little worrying





PS .. the one thing that makes me feel better is that the email is not arriving my end and if somehow somebody did try and alter the security settings I would get constant emails telling me this was about to happen, so cannot be done secretly without me knowing

It's been a while since I have been back here, could not see the point really. I have been dabbling with Bitcoin and a little ETH for about 5 years now and just basically buy an hold a tactic that is now paying off nicely after 5 years in the game.

Over the last 18 months though I have done a little trading in a Binance  account and have made more good calls than bad with very small leveraging on the odd occasion, I have just kept it simple.  In 2021 I am still over 70% Bitcoin hold and the rest is just dabbling with Polkadot and even more ETH, and in the next few months there are a few more Alt coins that have caught my eye and am watching closely and I intend doing some more riskier trading with no more than 15% of my porfolio.

Now here is the question at last , I want to 100% get my head around the Binance  trading site after only really using it for simple trades over the last 18 months, I will probably want to increase my leveraging to x 5 max and want the in's and out of flash crashes, stop losses the works.

Tution seems really crap out there on a lot of the YouTube type sites, does anyone have any good suggestions for tuition?.. looked everywhere and not all that great

Nothing is certain yet, but I am starting to get a feel that we hit the new floor yesterday and the worse could be over. I will say one thing about Bitcoin, this is the 4th  time it has tested me emotionally, where you think to yourself is this it, and yet it always recovers.

I remember the big fall last August where you thought it could not recover from that for ages, but it did and it was quick

Early days yet, fingers crossed. I am in for the long term, but it is nice to see it going up

I am one of the biggest fans of Bitcoin, but when I hear people making predictions like this I know that there are a lot of stupid people involved in Bitcoin as well as clever.
"$100,000" that is just a ludicrous prediction

I know people are only panic selling, but holding my Bitcoin, does that make me brave or stupid, that's what I am asking myself now

I cannot bare to read some of the spineless posts today and over the last few weeks, people forget so easily.

It was only in early December that we were all wondering could Bitcoin reach the impossible level of $10,000. It has done and it still is above that level after a heavy fall, if you don't have the nerve or guts then go and invest in something safer and boring.

Seriously, I think you should just get out of Bitcoin. Every time there is a dip we get all the nervous panic posts here and everywhere. It's always going to be the same, so if you are the nervy type I suggest you get out for your own peace of mind because it will always be this way.

Most people don't have the bottle for Bitcoin

I am probably one of a few that sees the Bitcoin level as fantastic news in the past month. Only 8 weeks ago I thought it would be out of this world if Bitcoin reached $10,000, not only has it done that and more, but right now it is holding a $14,000 floor after a much needed correction.

If some of you people are getting stressed about the direction of Bitcoin as it is, nothing will ever please you

I am not getting over excited, what I wanted to see is $10,000 hold up as the new floor, and I think at the moment it is winning, still too early to make that call yet, but things are looking good.

That's the big story here, it has held $10,000 quite easily when many people thought reaching $10,000 by the New Year would be a dream come true. I love the way the media clung to the never to last spike that fell back to some kind of normality. I have a bitchy person I work for who knows how well I have done through Bitcoin and NEVER talks to me about it, but he broke his silence after reading the media reports, so put him right though after telling him how much it had gone up last year.

Anyone who commits suicide over money probably won't be missed by too many people