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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: July 29, 2018, 07:43:53 PM
Did everyone read the "leaked" whitepaper draft?
Check out  https://www.kickico.com/UnicoWP.pdf

Visit https://u.community/english   and you'll notice the EOS logo.

The upcoming announcement from KickICO will most likely be about this project. If it's true, it explains why the token price hardly tanked after the run up and the bad news of the hack!

A recap from the whitepaper:

Quote
- The platform transforms the traditional ICO process into an Initial Exchange Offering.
- ICO tokens of any project are sold on the (Unicornication / U.COMMUNITY) platform’s own Crypto Exchange.
- The platform aims to absorb 90% of all ICOs and run them on the Exchange for transparency. This includes business tokenization when greenlit.

The (Unicornication / U.COMMUNITY) token economics:

- All post-ICO crypto assets are traded on Exchanges against BTC and ETH.
- BTC and ETH thus have the biggest multipliers in the crypto space. The common refrain in the crypto community is “The goal is to gain more satoshis”.
- The (Unicornication / U.COMMUNITY) token will have the exact same economics on the platform:
      All ICO campaigns will run on the platform and all ICO tokens will be sold and immediately traded on the platform’s Exchange.
      ALL TOKENS WILL BE TRADED AGAINST the (Unicornication / U.COMMUNITY) token only. Thus the goal will be to gain more (Unicornication / U.COMMUNITY) tokens much like with BTC and ETH.
      NO ICO FOR THE PLATFORM ITSELF.

Airdrop the (Unicornication / U.COMMUNITY) token to ALL $KICK HOLDERS Q3 2018.
The platform will go live Q3 2018.

.............

The token sale is done in the form of Initial Trade Offering (ITO).
The decentralized isolated exchange is one of the core components of the (Unicornication /
U.COMMUNITY) platform.
The decentralized isolated exchange runs on EOS.
The (Unicornication / U.COMMUNITY) token is issued on EOS. All tokens sold during an ITO
are traded against the (Unicornication / U.COMMUNITY) token.


This is exciting (yet to be) news Smiley  Hopefully they can execute it!
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: July 21, 2018, 12:04:49 PM
Information leaks detected
 
There is no insider trading per se, — the head of community at KICKICO A.Spirin explains what is happening in company now. Read here about what he means and why people discuss it so vividly: https://[Suspicious link removed]/2LbCf8N


That was an interesting read.  I don't normally follow links on bitcointalk, but I'm glad I did as it kind of explains what's happening with the price.  Personally I don't have a problem with the workers at Kickico buying their own coins.  If they work on a project and believe in a project, they should be able to invest in that project (and tell their friends).  If you think about it, it should instill more confidence in a project if the people involved are willing to risk their own money.

As for me on the other side of the world without this "inside" knowledge, it is blatantly obvious that someone in the know is accumulating.  I was actually going to sell some of my kick a week or two ago to invest in another project I'm interested in, but once I saw the activity in the Kick market I decided to hang onto it.  It doesn't require inside knowledge to spot that people/groups over at Kucoin are accumulating.  We also know that Kickcoin was undervalued for the last 6 months and was bound to recover.  Just wait until it hits a bigger exchange; 1500 will seem like a dream price.

This isn't a PnD either.  A PnD would be over in a couple of hours/days, and would result in the price jumping from 1000~ to 5000~, only to fall back to 1200.  What is happening now is accumulation, pure and simple.

I agree with you, it does look like accumulation, although very sophisticated P&Ds do sometimes come in multiple waves but rarely under this kind of sustained volume. We're now at the top of the 3rd wave up, so I am expecting a significant pullback to be honest whether this announcement arrives today or not..

The problem with 'insider trading' (or however people want to phrase it) is that it gives an unfair advantage to people that are connected to the decision makers in a company, in this case: kickico family members/friends and perhaps business associates. I exclude the company's decision makers (the management/development team) on purpose, because they are 'invested' already in one way or the other, their jobs are literally on the line and that's a good motivation to not do stupid things like pull off a P&D. What worries me most is the layer below them, the persons that are the best connected to kickico team members.
So far I have not read any credible information or rumors on what the announcement could be; people that do know are keeping their lips sealed and that might be a good sign.
I personally am hoping for a) russian government/treasury stamp of approval to be that nation's premier crowdfunding platform for digital assets  or  b)  something related to EOS, although ICOs do not exist on that platform as on ethereum, perhaps some type of partnership for cross-chain operations.  These are the best case dream scenarios in my opinion, I'm ready to expect far less than this and realistically i'm ready to be slightly disappointed. Regarding the price of the token; "buy the rumor, sell the news" is more often than not the case, please keep that in mind everyone reading this!
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][UTILITYSALE][Airdrop] CoinPayments Coin - Decentralized Market + Discounts on: May 31, 2018, 06:30:47 AM
Thanks for the update and the reasonable decision, CoinPaymentsCoin, it'll probably work out fine that way Smiley
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][UTILITYSALE][Airdrop] CoinPayments Coin - Decentralized Market + Discounts on: May 30, 2018, 02:03:33 AM
You can make aliases in Syscoin Core Debug Console, you don't need the Block Market wallet to do it.

Thank you for that advice Smiley

I opened the debug console, found the (i think) relevant command "aliasnew", but there is a list of parameters of which i'm not certain which values to use. Could you help me with that, please?

aliasnew [aliasname] [public value] [accept_transfers_flags=3] [expire_timestamp] [address] [encryption_privatekey] [encryption_publickey] [witness]
<aliasname> alias name. speaks for itself
<public value> alias public profile data, 256 characters max. can i leave this empty by just typing a blank space?
<accept_transfers_flags> 0 for none, 1 for accepting certificate transfers, 2 for accepting asset transfers and 3 for all. Default is 3. i guess the default 3 is fine
<expire_timestamp> Epoch time when to expire alias. It is exponentially more expensive per year, calculation is FEERATE*(2.88^years). FEERATE is the dynamic satoshi per byte fee set in the rate peg alias used for this alias. Defaults to 1 hour. i assume here i have to use epochconverter.com to calculate the timestamp (in seconds?) of around 1559253600 for today in 1 year from now?
<address> Address for this alias. the receive address in the wallet from which the alias payment is made i assume?
<encryption_privatekey> Encrypted private key used for encryption/decryption of private data related to this alias. Should be encrypted to publickey. i used dumpprivkey command on the respective receive address that holds the funds
<encryption_publickey> Public key used for encryption/decryption of private data related to this alias. i used validateaddress command on the respective receive address that holds the funds and looked up the pubkey in that list
<witness> Witness alias name that will sign for web-of-trust notarization of this transaction. what to set here? can i leave it empty?

Thanks in advance!
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][UTILITYSALE][Airdrop] CoinPayments Coin - Decentralized Market + Discounts on: May 28, 2018, 05:09:06 AM
"SYSCOIN AIR DROP DETAILS
On June 1, 2018 a snapshot of all Syscoin wallet addresses linked to Syscoin aliases will be taken and 6% of the total CPS Coin supply will be distributed to each of these addresses, proportionate to the balance of Syscoin held at the time of the snapshot."

From the above as quoted from the OP, does the airdrop includes the Syscoin kept in the Coinpayments site? Do we benefit from keeping our Syscoin on your site, that's what I am asking.

The airdrop to Syscoin holders will only count for people holding Syscoin in their Syscoin Alias. Find out how to create an Alias here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P37BFNfDUE

On June 1, 2018 there will be a snapshot of all balances held in Syscoin Aliases and that's who will receive the airdropped CPS Coin.

For the Syscoin airdrop on June 1, 2018, it does not matter how much Syscoin you keep at CoinPayments, desktop wallets or exchanges...it ONLY matters how much Syscoin is kept in your Syscoin Alias.

Hope that helps and I hope I said that in enough different ways to make it clear  Wink

The problem is that in order to create a new alias on the syscoin 3.0 chain (before the june 1st airdrop date) a newer version of 'Blockmarket desktop' is needed than is currently available ( https://github.com/syscoin/blockmarket-desktop-public/releases ). See also http://www.syscoin.io/support/solutions/articles/31000142833-why-doesn-t-my-latest-blockmarket-desktop-work-

Do you know by any chance if there is any way around this or if a new version of blockmarket desktop is released in the coming days? If not, then i guess only people that had aliases before the syscoin 3.0 migration will receive the CPScoin tokens.
Does anyone know if my logic is correct or if i'm missing something?
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: May 28, 2018, 02:05:18 AM
I don’t think companies will use KICKICO’s platform to launch their own ICO. A multi-million ICO hosted on a Kickstarter-styled website just doesn’t look professional.

You mean established medium to large sized (joint)-stock companies? No, of course not, they can get funding, if they even need it, in many different other ways that suits them much better.

Regardless of the "professional appearances" of a website/web-application that isn't the respective company's website (which frankly doesn't really matter that much) I hope you understand where KICKico is for, right? For startups and small businesses (in the blockchain related sphere) that have an idea (and a well thought out plan!) to which they want to dedicate their time and labor into succesfully executing AND where raising funds any other way would often be nearly impossible or take years to accomplish.

Now have a look at the succesfully finished campaigns page: https://www.kickico.com/campaigns/finished  .  I count about 10 projects more or less so far that are, what you call, "multi million" (i assume $) ICOs when you convert the ETH raised back to $.
Will there be failed fundraisers? Absolutely, there are already a couple and there will be more in this bear market, and i think KICKico should be more transparent in listing those too after the time window has closed, but this is a separate issue.

My conclusion thus is that your statement doesn't hold water, unless you're able to clarify it in a more detailed way.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ChronoLogic - Proof-of-Time token on Ethereum on: May 17, 2018, 03:24:48 PM
someone more experienced here could give their opinion on the value of the token DAY, for example the value that will be from here a year or two years of project.
I was also hoping that someone could come by and post prediction and speculation about the price in a month and year to come but there is none, the ICO token was sold 24 USD a piece now it is trading 2.13 USD imagine the lost.

Don't you know by now that your guess is as good as anyone else's? There are no "experts", speculation about price in dollars in x months from now is more depending on bitcoin than anything else almost. I can give you my take though:

At the end of next month or early july (IF the security audit is done and green light is given) the Ethereum Alarm Clock (EAC) will be on the ethereum mainnet, that's an important starting point by which we will see if the DAY token can shape its own price trajectory or not. Since it's needed as a stake for running timenodes, we will probably see some action i think, probably not with very high volumes though.

The ico price for the DAY token, assuming you were one of the 3333 ico participants, was around $12.5 by the way (when ether was 300$), but keep in mind that for the ico participants DAY is a self minting token that has grown 280% so far with a declining growth rate. To give you an example: if you bought 24 DAY (for 1 ETH) during ICO, you now have 91 DAY, assuming you didn't move them at any time from your original ethereum address.

The people that own DAY since day 1 will most likely wait patiently another few weeks, or in a worst case scenario months even, because finally a use case / utility is coming. That does not necessarily automatically mean price goes up, because the free floating DAY on exchanges (the part that is not locked in timemints (the original ico eth addresses) sets the price, always remember that. When timenodes prove to be economically profitable, demand for DAY will rise.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ChronoLogic - Proof-of-Time token on Ethereum on: April 20, 2018, 06:21:35 AM
So how did the webinar has gone through? Hope that there is a recorded session on official YouTube channel of chronologic. I believe it was about an in depth explanation on MyCrypto wallet integration as to how Day tokens would be used to execute a scheduled transaction.

There is a recorded session available on CL's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdY7zwRQq0Y

Below here I copy/pasted the relevant written questions/remarks and answers from the april 17th webinar:

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Q: Hi, I'd like to know if I can sell my TimeMint another way than having 8888 Day tokens.
A: Unfortunately no.

[edit: below 6 questions are about the conditional scheduling feature as being presented in the first part of the webinar] :

Q: Conditional scheduling can potentially be used for all decentralized exchanges
A: Precisely

Q: Nice. Market it as IFTTT (if-this-then-that) for crypto
A: That is a valid suggestion

Q: No priorities for timemint holders?
A: Claiming Mechaninsm, does that

Q: So will Time Mint holders have an advantage?
A: Yes, they will

Q: Also timemint?
A: Including TimeMint

Q: or just day amount?
A: both factors are put into consideration

[edit: below questions are about timenodes and the EAC in general and the ether/erc20 token scheduling feature as being presented in the rest of the webinar] :


Q: Do I have to use metamask when proving day token ownership to set up a timenode. Can I prove direct from a hardware wallet?
A: You should be able to prove using your hardware wallet, from mycrypto. The process uses a signed message from the address holding DAY. So you might be able to do so either way.

Q: Process did not work when signing direct from trezor
A: Kindly create an Issue on github, describing your experience, and we would get on it

Q: Can an existing Trezor account set up with MyEtherWallet.com access MyCrypto? My Timemint is tied to a Trezor / MEW address
A: Yes, you only need to sign a proof for your MEW address, from your Trezor

Q: When mainnet?
A: We are still waiting on the security audit, it might take up to 10 weeks

Q: Often ICOs require to whitelist an ETH address for participation to get the ERC20 token. This problem is unsolvable to EAC, isn't it?
A: The process would be to whitelist the generated schedule contract

Q: Is there any EAC V2 timenode version we can test? Especially CLI version... eac-js.cli on github seems to be outdated
A: Answered Live !!!

Q: How safe is EAC atm? A bullet-proof security audit would be essential before release EAC to the main net. And even then, declared clearly as BETA with use by own risk. One big issue on main net could kill the whole project.
A: We have begun an extensive security audit.

Q: Is there a plan to go out from Ethereum space with chronologic? I mean bring it into a cross chain environment?
A: Actually we are discussing this internally

Q: What is the advantage of having a time mint over just holding just 333Day.
A: You get priority claiming as a timenode [edit: i think he meant "as a timemint"]

Q: Looking further ahead - i presume companies could use the eth alarm clock for payment of stock dividends? Would this have to be paid in ETH? or could it be set for any fiat currency?
A: Only in ERC20 or ETH at the moment.

Q: Cool! Excited to hear about upcoming partnerships and who is catching on to the value here
A: We would update as we have confirmed partnerships

Q: keeping a trezor connected as a time node defeats the point of having a hard wallet
A: That is not a planned implementation, presently

Q: Will it be possible to link more than 1 timemint to a timenode? (in order to create a sort of timenode pool?)
A: we are looking at ways to implement that


If you've found this useful, merit me please Smiley thanks.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ChronoLogic - Proof-of-Time token on Ethereum on: April 02, 2018, 05:05:42 AM

ok sorry for late response, I wasn't using metamask at all I was using MEW by changing it at kovan simply.
I will try metamask later but I will need to transfer my DAY tokens from minting adress to a metamask adress ? :/
thanks for help

No problem for responding 'late', this isn't a chat but a bulletin board fortunately Smiley

To get straight to your question: no, don't move any day tokens from your timemint, ever! unless you're selling them.
You need Kovan test DAY tokens because the chronologic dapp is still in the testing phase on the Kovan test net, and you can receive them by requesting from the faucet at https://app.chronologic.network/faucet . Once the dapp goes into actual 'production phase', you will need to prove ownership of the ethereum address where you keep your real DAY tokens, but not for now! you want to first get accustomed to the dapp, how it functions, experience being a timenode and perhaps schedule some transactions yourself.

Metamask is a browser extension with which you can access existing ethereum wallets/accounts without the need to expose your private key to dapps/exchanges/websites. The accounts you already own and set up once through MEW or mycrypto you can easily import in MetaMask. Do keep the MetaMask password and seed phrase private and in a safe place of course.
While being connected to the Kovan test network you can sign a message with the help of MEW ( https://www.myetherwallet.com/signmsg.html ) or mycrypto ( https://www.mycrypto.com/signmsg.html ) , that shouldn't matter, but the preferred way of doing this is by accessing the wallet (where your Kovan test DAY resides that you requested from the faucet!) through MetaMask. You will get a MetaMask popup to sign the message, the signature you then submit in the chronologic dapp.

If you still have trouble, join the unofficial discord channel and ask for help at https://discord.gg/2tStfUP  or the official telegram channel at https://t.me/chronologicnetwork .
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ChronoLogic - Proof-of-Time token on Ethereum on: March 29, 2018, 12:50:21 AM
How To Prove DAY Ownership To Be a TimeNode


This article will teach prospective TimeNodes on how to prove they own the required DAY tokens in a test environment. All TimeNodes must prove they have at least 333 DAY tokens in order to execute Ethereum Alarm Clock transactions.

Keep Reading: https://blog.chronologic.network/how-to-prove-day-ownership-to-be-a-timenode-3dc1333c74ef  

I'm doing it step by step and and doesn't work.. It always show "invalid signature" message..
what's the problem ? I'm trying to sign on every network but it's the same :s
any idea ?

Did you get it working yet?
While you are connected to the Kovan test network in MetaMask and you have MetaMask unlocked, you need to sign the message ( https://www.mycrypto.com/signmsg.html ) by selecting 'MetaMask / Mist' on that page (so NOT the keystore/json file or you will get different output)... you will then get a MetaMask popup. This should work if you have DAY and some KETH in your wallet address.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ChronoLogic - Proof-of-Time token on Ethereum on: March 09, 2018, 06:42:37 PM
Logan speaking Live now ChronoLogic
Ethereum Alarm Clock in Paris at EthCC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScKaYbz0dCk

Was a nice presentation by Logan Smiley , he's obviously a developer by nature and not a natural speaker, but all in all what he said was clear and understandable, even for non solidity developers.

One thing that was new (to me at least); he said that having DAY tokens as a condition for being a TimeNode is not built into the protocol but only applies to using the frontend (the web application). That's unfortunate, because the token holders would really like to have an exclusive utility advantage somewhere. What then is the use of holding DAY? Please explain that to me.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ChronoLogic - Proof-of-Time token on Ethereum on: March 08, 2018, 07:37:44 AM
I tested the scheduling of a transaction, it got executed by a timenode, it worked Smiley

Anyone that wants to also test the transaction scheduling functionality, you can by using the web application at https://app.chronologic.network . FYI: you do not need to own any DAY tokens to schedule, so it's open to anyone.

There are some prerequisits or recommendations before you start though:

a) Make 2 ethereum wallets (through https://myetherwallet.com for example) for testing, one for sending FROM and one for sending test-ether TO.
b) Get Kovan test ether from a faucet and let it be sent to your FROM address.
Easiest way to achieve that is by making a github account ( https://github.com ) if you don't have one already, then sign in with that account on the following Gitter .im channel: https://gitter .im / kovan-testnet / faucet
Request keth (kovan ether) there by typing your FROM address and wait until you receive it.
c) Install and use the Chrome browser extension MetaMask ( https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/metamask/nkbihfbeogaeaoehlefnkodbefgpgknn ) to add the 2 ethereum test addresses you created earlier. Make sure MetaMask is connected to the Kovan Test Net for your keth balance in your FROM address to show up.

You're all set to schedule transactions with kovan test ether. If you want a walk through on how to schedule in the web application, see https://youtu.be/mPWVBGeJpwI?t=2408 .


Below here is TimeNode related only:
[update:  does not function properly yet, can't claim my own scheduled transaction, can't know for certain if other transactions are possible to claim because there aren't any in queue]
[update: it works when you follow this guide precisely: https://blog.chronologic.network/how-to-prove-day-ownership-to-be-a-timenode-3dc1333c74ef ]

In order to be a timenode and execute scheduled transactions, for that you DO need to have test DAY tokens. The prerequisits a), b) and c) i mentioned above also apply here before you start.

If you want to test this functionality, get test DAY from the faucet in the web app while MetaMask is connected. You receive 100 per hour, so if you right now have 0 you need to come back a few times to get the minimum required.
Once you get enough test DAY, follow the instructions in the web application after you clicked 'TimeNode' in the menu. You need to provide Chronologic with the keystore file of the ethereum address where you hold the test DAY tokens and also sign a message to prove you own that address.
This message signing is not possible with MetaMask; you need to use myetherwallet (or one of the other client side tools out there to interact with ethereum blockchain). The 'sign message' button is in the list in the bottom right corner of myetherwallet.
[update: my mistake, signing a message through MetaMask is possible and mandatory even]

In the web app you can now click the 'start' button and start claiming scheduled transactions (if there are any).
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ChronoLogic - Proof-of-Time token on Ethereum on: January 28, 2018, 04:54:24 AM
After watching the latest webinar ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTAH_8hSgbzd8Mq84zMsZJQ ), some faith, but not all yet, in this project and team has been restored.
The debt smart contracts portion of the Chronos dApp looks promising from a business use case perspective. This could be the default dApp for big and small crypto investors/speculators (for ethereum and the erc20 tokens at least), but it needs to be marketed somehow around the time it's ready to go live because people will not use it if they don't know it exists.
The DAY mint and token holders can at least look forward to a brighter future now, because it was damn depressing in Q3 and 4 of 2017. It's beginning to show in the valuation slowly too, fortunately.

I have some questions that maybe some smart people here have answers for:

a) does anyone know if other blockchain projects are doing something similar regarding debt contracts? There must exist some type of competition somewhere besides what Salt lending looks to achieve (with crypto as collateral for fiat loans) in the long term, right? Or does chronologic have first mover advantage?
b) the lender that receives the generated debt tokens, isn't there a kind of naming convention or uniquely generated id attached to those tokens needed? otherwise in a few years there are floating around the ethereum network a lot of duplicate named tokens (i understand the underlying contract address is unique of course). Am i right in this assumption?
c) is there any future use case of the yesterday token mentioned by anyone from chronologic? or is it really deprecated forever?

Quote
P: Will there be a forum where users can find counter parties for their borrowing or lending requirements. Thanks, Craig
R: That is indeed one of the future iterations we're considering.
This must have immediate priority, should be integrated within the Chronos dApp. Since the borrower and lender don't need or care to know each other, it's in essence just another marketplace Smiley Would like to see anonimity guaranteed though, kyc/aml is not necessary here.

Quote
P: This is the future!
R: Wait until you see what we have coming up next! :slightly_smiling_face:

P: I'm extremely proud to have put my money in this ICO
R: We have some really exciting updates we'll leak each week leading up to something very big in early March
This is a nice cliffhanger. I hope the project team keeps delivering from now on. Token holders/minters are not nearly proud enough yet, but the outlook for 2018 is good at least  Smiley.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ChronoLogic - Proof-of-Time token on Ethereum on: January 15, 2018, 11:58:03 PM

I was gonna say with current eth price, break even point for us (morons) would be 27-28$. Call it an even 30$.

I did my calculation with a starting chronopower of 0.75% (halfway between 0.5 and 1), for half of the timemint owners the break even price will be higher then of course.
By the way, why did they take  https://www.timemints.com  offline?  according to a whois the domain is still valid until september this year...

And if anyone associated with the chronologic team reads this:  why haven't you STILL NOT updated the circulating supply on coinmarketcap so it gets a market cap at least and thus some exposure?
Let me help you, i'm an amateur too: https://coinmarketcap.com/request , select "I want to update information on an existing cryptocurrency or exchange" and select "I want to update the supply / market cap of a cryptocurrency". Now you do the rest.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ChronoLogic - Proof-of-Time token on Ethereum on: January 15, 2018, 11:28:12 PM
Why are people not dumping it today?

That's a miracle...

man you can't talk about pump or dump with a daily volume of 30k$... ICO investors just don't trade it on daily it's easier to hold it right now. You will see after the minting period how huge it will become

Maybe that has been done now and all weak hands are out from this journey. But when time of the rise will reach they will regret for it I think so crypto is not an easy task for short term investors.

I wouldn't count on it, not yet that is... for an average timemint owner that hasn't bought or sold since the start to get out completely and get their original ether back, the price needs to go 0.019 to 0.02 ETH, which translates to around $25 to $26 per DAY token (assuming today's ether price at $1313).
I'm not saying it's impossible, but if it ever comes close to breaking even, there will be dumps i think. Unless the chronos platform turns out to be something the market has been waiting for combined with news about partnerships with banks or some large institutions or something... but realistically we know that's probably not going to happen.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: December 11, 2017, 01:19:11 PM

Did kick didnt make it for binance? Who won anyway?

Hmm, talking about bittrex, i think they dont accept new coins cause they are still focusing fot the KYC and verification of their users because of SEC. And polo? I think polo dont add tokens easily as well.. why not the team try other exchange? We stilm have many choices.. liqui, cryptopia, livecoin. They are good exchange for kick to be listed too.

Binance hasn't announced the winner yet, but from the amount of retweets (of which a bunch aren't legitimate) it's likely between Decent, EthLend, Investfeed or Voise. In order for Kick to have stood a chance there should have been at least 50x more retweets, so it's not even close.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: December 11, 2017, 01:01:52 PM
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lol, you have put a warning sign next to this project that signifies "this may be a scam". Are you trying to get free money through extortion?  The ico of kickico has been months ago and nobody cares what you or your site thinks about it now. So please get lost, opportunistic fckface.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: October 25, 2017, 09:20:50 AM
I didn't see this get mentioned yet but this i think is GOOD news:

Payment with KICK is now enabled for all of the 4 running projects on the site:
- MicroMoney (ICO)
- Arbitrage Crypto Trader (preICO)
- Gameflip (preICO, 10% bonus, but 8% cashback is not applicable)
- Eloplay (ICO)

So the promise of a 'Kickonomy' is slowly coming alive with these babysteps, and that was about time to be honest. The only big drawback now is that the kickICO ICO participants at this moment have a 'token purchasing power' of 50% of their originally invested ETH.
Let's hope people (from outside Russia too!) will buy this token to buy into some popular upcoming ICOs, otherwise the demand will not be there and price might stay at this low level for a considerable time..

One more addition: I think Kickico should demand from the companies/projects that on their main pages they link directly to the project's page on the kickico website. As long as there isn't a plugin or widget that these companies can use to easily incorporate in their own sites, then kickico might not gain the traction it needs. Investors are people too; they want easy access and clearly communicated payment options. When they see an advantage by investing through kickico with 8% cashback in KICK tokens, they WILL come. But right now they might not even be aware of it.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] KICKICO |ICO 29th August| PLATFORM FOR CROWDFUNDING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: October 01, 2017, 02:47:56 AM
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'm sorry if i get you pissed off .I actually back read a few pages.. what I mean is why do my wallet has 2 separate entitiies for KCand Kickcoins that is why Im confused

I'm not pissed off Smiley  i just sometimes have a hard time dealing with certain forms of ignorance.

But is your original question answered satisfactory?
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] KICKICO |ICO 29th August| PLATFORM FOR CROWDFUNDING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: October 01, 2017, 12:30:11 AM
I'm quite confuse. is KC different from KICK ? Sorry for my noob question. Can someone explain it to me

How hard is it to just read back in this topic a few pages? Seriously?  Huh

Ok, one last time, for the remaining willing 'noobs' that throw money into projects that they don't follow, don't read up on or don't understand:

KickICO found out that the KC ticker name was already being used on some exchange for some other coin. They decided, to avoid future confusion when it gets traded, to name the token KICK instead.
When you received your frozen tokens initially you got them from a contract address that named the token "KC". Note: An exception to this might be when you participated with BTC during the ico instead of Ether (but i'm not 100% sure).
In the last week of september you received new tokens from a new contract address (a merger of the closed funding, pre-ico and ico) with the new name "KICK". Only these KICK tokens from that contract address will be unfrozen in october and can be sold, bought or otherwise transferred.
The KC tokens you probably also have are, what software developers call, 'deprecated' and will probably remain frozen forever, they are unusable and have no value.
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