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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Ethbet: Peer-to-Peer Ethereum-Based Dicing With No House Edge on: September 28, 2017, 03:41:10 AM
how you finance project when no house edge?
can be possible? or is it just fun project, like hobby for you?
very interesting!
2  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Thought experiment on: September 28, 2017, 03:32:18 AM
that indeed is the only current solution. it would cost billions upon billions of $.
i really hope satoshi nakamoto uses his 1m btc to make this idea a reality!

Why should Satoshi use his 1m btc to make this idea a reality?
Why should anybody waste his money for this idea?

What would be the result?
Everybody on earth would own one coin of a new currency.
This will not invalidate the old currencies.
Rich people stay rich, poor people stay poor.

I don't see any benefit for this. Or am I missing something?
you wrote benefit yourself and dont see benefit?
"Rich people stay rich, poor people stay poor."
exactly to change that fact.
satoshi may do this because he never touched own btc and acted very altruistic all the way.
i believe this his great vision: everybody have crypto equal.
sure would not invalidate other crypto. but satoshi supported coin with equal distrubution and adoption of lets say 50 - 90% would be insane value.

If I understood you correctly, you think, that one coin distributed to each person on earth would change, that poor people are poor.
I think, this will not change anything. You cannot make poor people get rich (or at least wealthy) with this methode.

Ok, let's do some math.
Lets's assume, that Satoshi is a really nice person and donate his 1m btc to create a new currency which is worth 1m btc.
With the current price of about 4000$ per Bitcoin, the market cap of this new coin would be 1,000,000 * 4,000$ = 4,000,000,000$.
At the moment there are about 7.5 billion people on earth. When each of them get one coin, this one coin would be worth 4,000.000.000 / 7,500,000,000 = 0.53$.
This calculation does not include the cost which would be needed to give each person one coin. If you would also calculate those costs, every coin would represent a big debt.

So, this would not change anything. Even with a price of 100,000$ per BTC such a new coin would only be worth 13.33$.

The new currency you want to spread out need to have a significant value to change anything. But this value does not come from thin air. Someone need to invest in it to give it the value it needs.
Just giving one coin to each person would not give this coin any value.

As much as I would love to see a better distribution of wealth, in the real world this will never happen. And unfortunatly this idea cannot work.
But prove me wrong. Maybe you have a better idea to give this coin the value it needs.
hello kors,
sadly your argumenting very good.
maybe you right. even if 1btc = 10m$, every person only 1333$. uhh! not very much.
maybe only way for better wealth is better access to trade via cryptocurrency. plus education of course. always education is most important. internet = free worldwide education, crypto = free worldwide payment access.
in long term i believe in solving.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 28, 2017, 03:23:18 AM
staking how many coin needed to gain 1 sigt?
how long is hold time?
4  Economy / Speculation / Re: how to predict bitcoin price increase or decrease? on: September 28, 2017, 03:09:11 AM
bitcoin price cannot predicted.
price can only estimated. short term good chart analysis can correct result.
long term very difficult because fake-news etcetc produce extreme volatility.
long term only one thing sure: upupup. Smiley
5  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Thought experiment on: September 19, 2017, 02:25:23 PM
that indeed is the only current solution. it would cost billions upon billions of $.
i really hope satoshi nakamoto uses his 1m btc to make this idea a reality!

Why should Satoshi use his 1m btc to make this idea a reality?
Why should anybody waste his money for this idea?

What would be the result?
Everybody on earth would own one coin of a new currency.
This will not invalidate the old currencies.
Rich people stay rich, poor people stay poor.

I don't see any benefit for this. Or am I missing something?
you wrote benefit yourself and dont see benefit?
"Rich people stay rich, poor people stay poor."
exactly to change that fact.
satoshi may do this because he never touched own btc and acted very altruistic all the way.
i believe this his great vision: everybody have crypto equal.
sure would not invalidate other crypto. but satoshi supported coin with equal distrubution and adoption of lets say 50 - 90% would be insane value.
6  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: September 19, 2017, 02:16:22 PM
finally, thanks to cryptopia to release our funds after several weeks. As you may saw i have deleted a few posts but i must state that i regret after seeing the following bashing from your discord admins:


I noticed that the signatum.io website has crashed and that people are now complaining about issues with their personal wallets on reddit, steemit and bitcointalk.

Cryptopia gets bashed whenever a coin has issues. People tend to talk shit until the problem is solved. The Cryptopia team have to solve a lot of problems that the coin developers should be solving - that is why some coins get delisted after the initial problem is solved.

Cryptopia has only recently grown to a big exchange. To some of us it is more like a big family.  Longterm members like myself are protective of this exchange.

EDIT: I notice that Cryptopia also now have issued an official response: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/News
interesting hear the offical stanpoint. however not totally sure which side to belive.
we will see future of signatum and of cryptopia.
7  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: September 18, 2017, 11:15:47 PM
signatum was the fist coin i every mined. i hadnt mine much compared to others but lost many coins because i didnt realize their wallet wasnt working.
fk them i get the same generic answer for ages and my coins are now lost forever? scammers.
8  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Thought experiment on: September 18, 2017, 11:01:06 PM
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How would you prevent that someone claims more than 1 wallet?
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Forget about the wallets and coins.  Your thought experiment can be simplified.  Simply ask yourself:

"What is the most cost efficient and most effective way to uniquely identify a single person such that nobody else can pretend to be them and they can not pretend not to be themselves?"

Identification papers (passport, drivers license or national ID card, etc) can be copied, stolen, or faked.

The only answer I can come up with would be to require that the person be physically in your presence and that you find a way to reliably take a DNA sample from them.  Then fully sequence that DNA and store a hash of the result in a database.  Compare the results of each new person against all the results in your database.  Note that you may run into a problem with identical twins (triplets, quadruplets, etc).  In that case, you might require that they all be present together at the time of DNA extraction, and that if any are missing they will be excluded from the offer.

Obviously this would be a difficult and expensive thing to accomplish, but as a thought experiment it's the most reliable method I can think of.  You could reduce the costs if you were willing to accept that some people will be able to take advantage of the system.  How much effort and money you could save would depend on how much risk you were willing to accept of people gaining access to multiple wallets.
that indeed is the only current solution. it would cost billions upon billions of $.
i really hope satoshi nakamoto uses his 1m btc to make this idea a reality!
9  Other / Off-topic / Re: What wallets do you use? on: September 18, 2017, 10:46:12 PM
newbie here.
looking for wallet that supports a lot of bitcoin features, meaning I want to customize settings etc. as much as possible.
should also be cross-platform and safe.
ty
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