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We have an order of 60 Whatsminer M20s 68T that we can't deploy, brand new, in stock, and taking a loss on them because we need to move them quickly! MOQ is 5 Units - Ready to ship from our US warehouse. Wire or Crypto payment is accepted, references from well known and trusted users available upon request @theTRUEsaj on Telegram - Verified and Top Rep on www.t.me/hardwaremarket Thank you |
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He’s the real Saj.
With all due respect Scott, if i am going to vouch for someone, I rather confirm their identity by myself, after all, I know if it was the real saj he wouldn't mind proving himself to me. Don’t mind at all, thanks for verifying. |
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Price reduced On remaining units
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Thanks, the s17 and M20s are my machines, but I will make a thread for any brokered deals if that is ok. Appreciate the tip. |
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If you send from US warehouse, then I assume that you would be paying the tax bill (currently 27.6% to US AFAIK) and I am not going to be stuck with it.
Please elaborate.
those m20s look pretty good if the trump tax is taken care of. but the moq of 5 comes to 16500 plus 250 to ship = 16750 I am not sure I want to send that much btc to an unknown. still it comes to 340th around 50 a th. 9 bitmain t17 = 9 x 1145 = 10305 plus trump tax plus shipping say 13149 and 1000 to ship cost is 14149 for 342 th close to a tie if op is good. since the bitmain comes nov 20 and these come say oct 24-31 I will mull this over. I’m happy to discuss on the phone, video chat, whatever you prefer. @buckrogers, @offordscott, @kaboomracks will vouch for me, Frontier Mining, Coin Miner, Core Scientific, GPU.one, all of them will. I’m new to doing business on This forum but have been doing this on telegram for 3 years. Hope we can do some business together. |
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If you send from US warehouse, then I assume that you would be paying the tax bill (currently 27.6% to US AFAIK) and I am not going to be stuck with it.
Please elaborate.
Yes, I am importing them, they aren’t drop shipping to you from china. So there is no tax or tarriff to you at all. You are buying them already inside the country. |
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That transaction is a little unsettling to say the least. If such an individual decides to exchange that amount of BTC for fiat the market will be temporarily distabilized. However, I am convinced the owner(s) is a hodler if not they would have cashed out long ago.
Does it specify if it was moved to an exchange? Just being moved could mean an OTC sale, transfer to more secure storage, etc. Hopefully they would keep that OTC if they do decide to cash it out that way it doesn't flash crash the market. |
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Selling the following Batches of Brand new Canaan Avalon 852: 500 Canaan Avalon 852 Brand New $330 each plus shipping 15 Th @ 1500w Brand new 2200 watt psu AUC3 cables and 1 Raspberry Pi for every 20 miners 600 Avalon 852 NO psu $280 each plus shipping Brand new in box Located in Dubai, accepting BTC or USD Wire Find me on Telegram @theTRUEsaj Verified with Top Rep in t.me/hardwaremarket and t.me/minerspeak |
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1. In case warranty repair is needed-how it is handled (since you are the one who ordered the machines)?
2. Payment sources (only btc or credit card, bank, paypal, btc mix possible)?
1. We will help with any warranty issues that come up so that you are taken care of on that, basically file the warranty claim for you 2. We accept BTC, USDC, Wire to our Business Account, or Mix of BTC / Wire. |
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M20s ships oct 24-31?
5 for 3300 = 16500 I am in NJ what is shipping cost for this?
Ships to my warehouse end of October, straight from the manufacturer so I can't say for sure the exact date, but it is the late October batch from them. The day they arrive to my warehouse we will ship orders out. $250 shipping to NJ, fully insured. Thanks |
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an interesting approach , but KYC verification is too much for my liking
it does reduce the scam overall , but if some shrewd scammer is able to get inside it will be way more damaging
since this is like a trusted circle of people and the offers from them are treated accordingly
is this like some sort of a decentralized localbitcoins or exchange you are building ? is there any revenue that you are getting from running the bot / groups?
We work very hard to make sure that scammers don't get inside, and if one did, It would still be way less damaging than the amount of people that were getting scammed before. I'm not getting any revenue, we just charge $25 to cover the fees associated with running KYC and the time I put in / bot development, but otherwise I just do this for free to better the community. Trust me the $1500 or so I have received in fees barely pays for the verification and dev costs. But the $25 also doubles as a barrier to entry that many low level scammers wont consider paying. There is no bitcoin traded, it is just hardware sales. |
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There are many many crypto Telegram groups out there. But I have not yet seen any Telegram group which is focused on mining only?
If you know any group could you please post them here? Thanks in advance.
The groups I run are t.me/MinersPeak and t.me/HardwareMarket - both very active, well moderated, and we have built a bot for trust, rep, verification, etc. hope to see you in there. @theTRUEsaj |
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This listing is for 76 M20s 68T - These are landing in my warehouse end of October, and will be shipped out immediately from the US. $3,300 $3,185 each, MOQ 5 units, shipping included. You can contact me here, email me at joe@cryptech.solutions - or contact me on telegram @thetruesaj Fully verified / top ranked seller on Telegram, plenty of references.
Other Items Currently for sale: 300 S17 Pro 50T brand new from bitmain, landing at our warehouse in the US end of September and will be shipping out from there $4,000 each, MOQ of 5 units 76 M20s 68T brand new from MicroBT, landing at our warehouse in the US end of October and will be shipping out from there - $3,300 each, MOQ of 5 units 4,000 Ebang E9+ with psu - brand new in box, located in the USA, $110 each MOQ of 500
35 Bitmain S9 13TH w/APW3++ $300 each plus shipping, MOQ 35 188 Bitmain mixed L3+ & L3++ w/APW3++ $90 each plus shipping MOQ 188 130 BW BW-L21 (similar hash rate to L3+) w/220V PSU. $50 each plus shipping MOQ 130
500 Canaan Avalon 852 Brand New $330 each plus shipping 15 Th @ 1500w Brand new 2200 watt psu AUC3 cables and 1 Raspberry Pi for every 20 miners 600 Avalon 852 NO psu $280 each plus shipping Brand new in box Located in Dubai
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New to selling on Bitcointalk, but absolutely not new to selling hardware. I am the owner of the telegram groups t.me/HardwareMarket and t.me/MinersPeak - come check out our groups if you are on Telegram. This listing is for 300 S17 Pro 50T - These are landing in my warehouse end of September, and will be shipped out immediately from the US. $4,000 $3,600 each, MOQ 5 units, domestic shipping included. You can contact me here, email me at joe@cryptech.solutions - or contact me on telegram @thetruesaj Fully verified / top ranked seller on Telegram, plenty of references.
Other Items Currently for sale: 300 S17 Pro 50T brand new from bitmain, landing at our warehouse in the US end of September and will be shipping out from there $3,600 each, MOQ of 5 units 76 M20s 68T brand new from MicroBT, landing at our warehouse in the US end of October and will be shipping out from there - $3,185 each, MOQ of 5 units 4,000 Ebang E9+ with psu - brand new in box, located in the USA, $110 each MOQ of 500
35 Bitmain S9 13TH w/APW3++ $300 each plus shipping, MOQ 35 188 Bitmain mixed L3+ & L3++ w/APW3++ $90 each plus shipping MOQ 188 130 BW BW-L21 (similar hash rate to L3+) w/220V PSU. $50 each plus shipping MOQ 130
500 Canaan Avalon 852 Brand New $330 each plus shipping 15 Th @ 1500w Brand new 2200 watt psu AUC3 cables and 1 Raspberry Pi for every 20 miners 600 Avalon 852 NO psu $280 each plus shipping Brand new in box Located in Dubai
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He is talking specifically about sellers who have gone through an extensive KYC process. Those sellers identified as “verified” have connected a few account with Keybase, provided their real phone number, and provided their local government photo ID. We also do a check with the seller via webcam.
It is a very nice process to identify and fight scamming on transactions and business that deals with decentralized and anonymous. Telegram has turned to the home of scam. I do receive ton of messages in my telegram account daily and sometimes after much verification, I do discover that those projects are completely scammed. Scamming will reduce if we began to ask people to do KYC before doing business with them. I am for privacy and that is what bitcoin was created for. Making transactions without KYC or third party knowledge! However, because of the scamming, that is going on that has changed. Sure of course, everyone has the option to deal anonymously, and we also can offer escrow for that if you choose, but most have really embraced the new system we created, and all the active sellers have become verified now, so it has been working very well. No system is perfect but it has reduced scamming considerably. |
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So I just spend 30 minutes typing about our marketplace, then my iPad died and it didn’t save as a draft, so now you guys get the cliff notes  I don’t post here much, in crypto about 3 years on this site about 2 years - mostly used to just read now I spend all my time on Telegram. Got sick of scammers and spammers, so set out to create safe marketplace and fight scammers with a vengeance. Marketplace currently has about 2,300 members. Our groups are www.t.me/HardwareMarket and www.t.me/HardwareMarketChannel and then our discussion group, www.t.me/MinersPeakA sister group of ours created By Scott Offord is www.t.me/cryptominingscams - where scams and scammers can be openly reported and discussed So here’s what I did about all the bullshit I was seeing: I created a bot, @curatorbot “The Curator” and his features are pretty impressive: 1. Maintains a database of Verified users in the group - verified means they have completed KYC with us and we have their ID, selfie, phone, email, an keybase.io profile on file (PS to admins, would be great if bitcointalk set themselves up to be connected to keybase like twitter, reddit, hackernews, and many others) 2. Maintains a database of Reputation points, rep points are given for successful completed deals, 1 point to buyer one to seller. Deals are thoroughly checked for the first few rep points (tracking info, TX ID, screens of convo etc) and then randomly checked after the first few. Anyone abusing the system loses all rep points 3. Users can call !check on any other user to check their status, including if they are verified, what their rep is, country they are located in, keybase.io profile, username, and user ID number. We also created a private message check, so anyone that is chatting with another user can call on curator to post a button that the other party should click before transacting, this proves you are actually talking to the verified user and not an imposter. 4. Cross network ban - we created this as an in-house system to ban users across all of our groups, then we realized we could use this to fight scammers and spammers on a larger scale, so now anybody that adds Curator to their telegram group and makes it admin can use all of the features, including access to the !check command, and any spam / scam user that is banned by admin in one of our groups instantly is banned in all groups Curator is admin of (currently about 30-35 groups) These are just a few of the features we are using to fight spam and scammers in telegram. If you have any questions about the system you can DM me on telegram @theTRUEsaj - or just reply here, but I am not here as often as TG. Thanks everyone hope to see you in our groups. |
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I'm looking at 24 to 32 units.
Who can sponsor me for those numbers?
I can, contact me at joe@cryptoswagco.com or text me at +1-413-251-9291 -Joe |
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Yeah, i know, that is why i am asking about the revolux sponsor in particular which is OP's site as he states in 1st post.My question was whether i have to send money now to the sponsor or PoF although i think i have to send the money upfront as said in 1st post as well. Am i getting this right ?
The details for this group buy have not been decided it's still early stages. It would be very unwise to send money to anyone at all for this group buy yet until those details are finalized. Pick a sponsor, let them know how many you want and then they will let you know when to make payment (I highly suggest using escrow unless your sponsor is well trusted) 100% Thank you for clarifying this. The point of this thread is for everyone to state their interest, to discuss who to pick/ask for sponsorship, etc. We would also like sponsors to come forth and announce their terms & conditions. More details in op. Before you pick your sponsor, please have a lively discussion, ask questions, do your research, and don't send your money to anyone you don't trust, or anyone you haven't discussed terms & conditions with. Trust chain:The entire point of this bulk buy is that nobody's money should ever be risked until we've got trusted verifiable proof that the cards are real, in our hands, and pass our inspections. At the very top of the chain, we have bulk buyers and sponsors who are either doing escrow or standby letter of credit. Their money is never at risk until cards are in their hands. Think: Trustless top, sponsor of the "trust chain". All that is required to establish a "source" of trustlessness is Proof of Funds. Then, you have people who are being sponsored by someone. They are the links of the trust chain. These people are at risk because if they send their money to a "sponsor" today, they are trusting that the sponsor will: - 1) be capable and competent enough to ship cards in a timely manner
- 2) In the event the buy does not happen, be able to give you a timely refund
The way you go about securing these things depends on the terms of your sponsor. Do you trust them? Have they been vetted by trusted forum members? Do you know them personally? Local pickup? Escrow? Standby letter of credit? Etc etc. Like Kapz said: Escrow is highly suggested unless your sponsor is well trusted Do your research. Have a discussion here, and on telegram. Hope this clears some confusion. Mod and trusted member help is really appreciated here. Best, Amir EDIT: I'm in London Feb 9-10. Anyone want to meet up? Anyone needing a sponsor can contact me, I’m already sponsoring quite a few people, and won’t be taking any funds until the cards are sitting at the port. I have met in person with Amir & Evan, and have talked on the phone with many people in this thread. I’m in MA and I’m willing to meet up with anyone that is interested. Contact details have been posted a few times! |
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I am working on getting my list and proof of funds over to Amir and Evan tonight, can anyone that wanted to order less than 300 and who wanted to go through me please contact me as soon as possible? You can text me or call me at 1-413-251-9291 - text is usually the best way to get a hold of me.
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