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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: May 13, 2013, 11:19:14 PM
Can you elaborate on that?  All I am saying is that I have seen the way they respond on this forum and have not been happy with the attitude they give people.  There are lots of comments in this thread that are far worse than anything I have said.  I never said they are scamming people nor do I think that is the case, but I personally wouldn't order from them.  That is my right just as much as it is their right to cancel orders and choose who they do business with.

Not targetted at you massnerder. Just a comment in general about what I've seen discussed on here, it's crossing the line in places.
2  Local / Mining (Deutsch) / Re: Zahlt Suprnova.cc nicht aus?? on: May 13, 2013, 11:15:31 PM
Is the site owner about? Can you please respond to my emails.
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is it worth installing a 6850 into my mining rig? on: May 13, 2013, 10:00:49 PM
I have a 6870 and it mines 240MHs BTC  on Bitminter, a 6850 will give you a bit less   Grin

I would say Yes it's worth the trouble if you have place for the risers.

You will make a profit mining LiteCoin this setup. Electricity costs will be about £1 per day.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: May 13, 2013, 09:54:59 PM
There was another person in this thread besides the one you quoted who was banned for asking how many units had shipped, not for being an asshole, so I would disagree on whether or not that idea is asinine, but anyway.... You completely sidestep my point here.  What about the potential customers who are treated like shit for simply asking questions?  Because that certainly is happening more often than cancelled orders.  How does talking shit on forums, trashing the people who are trashing your company, and refusing to provide any citations for the claims you make fall under the umbrella of 'good service'?  Not only does it show how concerned they are(not) with keeping customers happy, it damages their reputation as a whole which is also typically bad for business.  Think about it, if a question that irritates Josh or whomever up there could be answered by saying 'Hey, we have addressed that, click here for more info.' - in that case then what type of business person would opt to just call that person an idiot instead, as they have many times over?

MT has it right, as you yourself say "behave in a manner that fosters feelings of mutual respect" - and I don't see that type of behavior coming from BFL.  Not that that is an excuse for the way some people talk about them, but it is an excuse for me to not do business with them.  You originally defended their right to not engage in an abusive customer-business relationship, and that holds true just as much as everybody has the same right not to engage in an abusive business-customer relationship.  You may be great at keeping customers happy, but you aren't BFL, are you?

People need to be careful what they put in the public domain (you can be taken to court, this has happened several times recently for forum comments about companies). Clealry communicating with their customers is a bit of a problem for BFL, however, I believe they are doing what they can. Personal feelings can make people behave irrationally. You are investing in a new product in an emerging market. There will be many problems along the way. What do you expect?
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is it worth installing a 6850 into my mining rig? on: May 13, 2013, 09:43:42 PM
I wish it was 'free' electricity - its my home office Wink
Long term you'd be better with a 7950 if you have the cash to invest. It uses less power so cheaper electricity bills.

Sorry I was talking about GPUs not PSU! AMD 7950 is probably the best mining card on the market.
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is it worth installing a 6850 into my mining rig? on: May 13, 2013, 09:42:43 PM
I wish it was 'free' electricity - its my home office Wink

Long term you'd be better with a 7950 if you have the cash to invest. It uses less power so cheaper electricity bills.

7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Average payout with 5 GH/s + Slush's Pool on: May 13, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
by then it's not unlikely people will be pushing 500+ghash on their own with DIY asic chips.

You'd need to put in a considerable investment. Developing ASIC chips is not cheap. You'd need several million spare for development and more. I doubt BFL will let any old tom dick or harry use their IP. I'm sure there are many more companies like BFL will appear over time. It's a good thing for BitCoin companies are sinking this much in R&D. Difficulty continues to increase...
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Alt-Coins on: May 13, 2013, 09:24:18 PM
all altcoins seem to be tanking, even ltc. even btc seems to be on a downtrend. makes me wonder if we'll ever see $150+ btcs again

Do you follow the stock market? Nothing goes up in a straight line.  Prices will fluctuate greatly but I believe the overall trend will be up over the next decade. FIAT currencies are worthless. Your $s are backed up by nothing. Governments continue to print more and more money devaluing what's in your pocket. Soon it will be cheaper to wipe you're arse with a $ note instead of buying toilet roll. BitCoins are the future.
9  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is it worth installing a 6850 into my mining rig? on: May 13, 2013, 09:15:44 PM
Hi guys, im still running a 5850 and 5870 mining rig - 0.04 PPS (so far mined 12 BTC off the whole system)

i ahve a 6850 sitting doing nothing atm, is it worth the hassle of buy 3 PCIe risers and customising my case to suspend the GFX cards for the extra 200-220 Mhashes?

i was running the card in a separate PC for mining LTC but now my office gets way to hot running two mining rigs, im guessing that a third card wouldnt really help with the heat anyway - its not hot in my case - both cards are around 65-75 degrees all day.

What's the rating of your PSU? You will need something approaching 800W. I alway use a 1250W PSU for 3 card GPU rigs. Power problems cause all sorts of crap which will waste your time!
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: First Mining Rig with 2 x Sapphire Radeon 7950's on Xubuntu - Questions on: May 13, 2013, 09:09:24 PM
Reading up some people say that there is a loss of kw/ps if you connect a Crosslink Bridge between the 2 GPU's. Is this correct?

From tests I've done, yes.
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to get 2 x 7950 HDs working with cgminer?? Works fine with 1 card only. on: May 13, 2013, 09:07:58 PM
You're better on Windows. The drivers are better. Don't bother with CrossFire for mining. Get a copy of Vista, it's not much these days ($20 - $30)
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: May 13, 2013, 08:59:10 PM
Yeah they're a bunch of cons.  Nothing about their operation makes sense if you assume its legit.  The other day I looked on ebay and found a bunch of sellers hawking their preorders for x2 to x3 what BFL charges, lol.  The great cycle of scam continues.

Selling rigs to miners is a better way of making money. I'm seeing some good returns selling LiteCoin GPU rigs. What's wrong with people selling pre-orders on eBay if the demand is there?

I think BFL have genuinley had a lot of problems. Business projects frequently go over timescales over the smallest things. Do people really think they're sitting on all the ASIC devices?

13  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How long until I can post outside the newbie area? on: May 13, 2013, 08:28:49 PM
Great want to reply to a post. Don't understand the logic behind this.

It makes sense considering the likelihood of spammers.

But I have to spam other areas of the forum with crap just to post a comment on the relevant thread.2nd post 3 to go (and a few hours)...
14  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How long until I can post outside the newbie area? on: May 13, 2013, 08:01:29 PM
Great want to reply to a post. Don't understand the logic behind this.
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