Is there any valid evidence in this regard?
I do not think utrust will do such a thing, they do the job casually and want better results, no hurry, see what will happen in the future, we will go to the moon together

very sad this KYC verification

There is a lot of FUD going on for this project!
I really believe in this project and think it will have a great future!

I'm still a believer that the doubts could be addressed. It's amazing how the thread is quiet until that post resurfaces then all the shill monkeys come out and dilute it. Where are the community admins and why are they ignoring those concerns??

And why the project will grow in 10x? When will it be? I'm interested in your version, I would sell coins and 3x.

The first link doesn't open anymore, probably too much activity. Where did the information of the involvement of Marc Philipp Brühwiler in UTRUST came from?

there so much competitor that have same idea, so, what makes utrust different than the others and why we must choose utrust than the others?

A little worried nobody has answered this yet but I'm sure there's a legitimate answer. However, I still feel confident with my investment. Also pretty glad that error fixed up pretty quickly, definitely won't obsessively check my balance as much as I have been lol.

Really complicated to say at this moment, I do not like such an extension, but despite launching a less positive image about the project, I believe for the potential, work and support made so far, Utrust holds its potential, and for him I'll be waiting. Surprise us with good news as you have done

So now with their extended ICO they revised their white paper for the millionth time. Amongst the changes this paragraph was added regarding the ICO:

"It was expected to [sic] for the single round to run for a variable period no longer than 7 days or until all tokens were issued, whichever happened first. However, considering recent market developments and the acceptance of new countries in the ICO, the process will run until [DATE]."

That's convenient. Fill in the blank for whatever you see fit. First [DATE] was November 9 I suppose. Now [DATE] is November 20. And tomorrow... lies in the stars.

Oh, and the chart that follows right after still shows a total token pool of 1 billion. Common guys, you are collecting millions of dollars, and you cannot even concentrate on getting your lacking white paper right? It cannot be *that* difficult, and it's not just about writing pompous press releases, especially if you're planning to pioneer the world of cryptocoins in the future.  

Why am I not surprised.   They keep changing their terms and conditions as they wish, while we, the real "investors" (not their "private investors" nobody here cares about) have absolutely no say in it. Extending the ICO? What is the point of soft- and hard cap targets if you ignore them? What a farce. I am tired of utrust talking about what an "awesome" "community" we are. This is not about being awesome or about being a fanboy. This about people who trusted them with real money in hope that they do something of value. Until now, it's been just talk and wishful thinking, and even then, when people raised critical questions, questions remained unanswered.

For me the important step will how to get rid of my tokens without having to agree on their new terms that I haven't agreed on to begin with.

Isn't it ironic when they say that utrust is not about the ICO, yet literally every single e-mail and press release speaks exclusively of the ICO? Meanwhile, how much did they talk (and show) about their product and development besides spreading thin air?

So they decided to extend the ICO - even though they stated previously with a lot of furor that by having reached the softcap they gained "technical and operational viability" with a "solid foundation to work from".

What drama? The issue is that they keep changing the rules that they have set for themselves and for their investors. This extension was never satisfactorily explained, while according to their own words, the ICO had been a blast and delivered sufficient funds for a successful operation. The way how they keep changing things around with apparent ease is a sign of neglectance, in the best case, and a sign of disregard for their investors in the worst.

I want to participate, how do i buy tokens

That's not a stock picture, it's a Amazon product and it even has the Amazon name on it. They associate themselves with Amazon. That means they already have a deal with them (and their agreement to display it), or they're doing it anyhow but without Amazon's permission...

Yes, I’ve read it and I’ve also read the full chat between Nuno and him. Personally, it reads like it is written with a negative agenda as he specifically chose not to disclose a lot of information that Nuno provided him (school, university degree, companies he founded, skype, facebook, …). Instead, he chose to write an article that feels like an attack under the false pretenses.

My apology, but you said that this Github profile was not yours. If one or even two employees of your company create a profile with your company's name, then it stands to reason to assume that this is your profile. Curious to see the new list of your engineers... seems you have expanded, because on your team page I only count 8 engineers.


That doesn't make any sense (I live in Switzerland and I know a bit about how to form a company). Yes, you may choose one trustee or person who is a Swiss resident (yes, even one with a questonable background), but that doesn't explain why nobody of the actual team has been named a director. Why only in "due time"? There is no process involved in adding a director when the company is formed.


Yes, of course they are a debt-collecting company. You can pretty-talk them as much as you want, but anyone in Switzerland knows (either from first-hand experience or from the frequent news coverage) who Intrum Justita is. They may have recently added KYC service, because they licensed IDnow eSign, but they are certainly not the only one offering that service - and it's not Instrum Justita who is FINMA approved, as you say, but it is the IDnow eSign service (https://www.idnow.de/) if at all.

• We are allowed to change the terms within certain boundaries at any given time, just like every other company in the world. Particularly when it comes to changing regulation, which in our case required us to enforce KYC on all participants, including pre-ICO ones. Naturally, this is not something we want to do as it costs money and is a hurdle/hassle for everybody. However, since we are a fully compliant ICO, we comply to the current law and regulations, and will continue to do so.

Again, what you are saying is untrue. You say yourself, within certain boundaries, but nothing about your changes is within boundaries. These are two completely different terms. In this case, just like every other company, as you say, you would have had to at least offer any pre-ICO token owner the option to return the tokens. For example, you say now that I must not be a politically exposed person (PEP). But what if I am? I cannot agree to your new terms then or I would have to lie. But I do have tokens from the pre-ICO, where you made no such conditions. And I most certainly don't want my personal information to be shared with Instrum Justita - under no circumstance. The terms are so fundamentally different that it makes my head ache and I seriously question whether you're as transparent and professional as you like us to believe. Don't believe me? Compare them yourself:

• Before https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/utrust/UTRUST-terms-of-use.pdf
• Now https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/utrust/toc-participants/en/UTRUST-toc-participants-en-2017-11-02.pdf (interesting how you call the new terms V.01 - what version was the previous terms then? V.00?)

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I allready talked with them yesterday and be told to wait a few hours. I had a confirm status of the deposit in my dashboard from the begining.
In the dashboard i have the balance of the tokens but not in myetherwallet.

Hi everybody!

After a long night and some technical problems, we are back in the office now and working on fixing the bar and pending transactions this morning.

We are very sorry for the rocky start but will make major improvements today.

Please stay tuned!

Anybody have the same trouble as me? I deposited yesterday, and I have 80 confirmations till then, but my status is still pending now.

Anybody?