That is just wild...  Now if we found THREE BLOCKS 8 seconds apart... I'd have to start worshipping your anime goddesses at that point lol

Awesome! Finally the blocks are coming...

In other news -- Can someone tell me how this is possible?

• 491,802 is found by Shitfury   at 2017-10-25 23:52:04
• 491,803 is found by BTC.FLOP at 2017-10-25 23:52:05

And a couple blocks before that 2 separate blocks were "found" by FUPool ~27 seconds apart...  It really feels like btc network manipulation or maybe their PH/s or EH/s are too high for the current difficulty to be effective against them?

Would appreciate anyone's thoughts on the matter...

I am a noob to this pool as well, a noob to hands on mining since 2 weeks ago, my BCT forum account says I'm a "newbie" but but I've been messing with bitcoin since 2012 (or earlier) so not a noob to btc... So really these forum labels don't say much in the way of real experience lol 

I second @padrinogtr's sentiment -- with all due respect @VRobb, everyone used to be a noob at some point (including you and Kano), until they weren't.  I won't speculate on how high Kano's aggravation level gets with noobs 'chiming' in the forum, but I will say that without noobs mining in the pool, this pool wouldn't grow and would most likely be forgotten by the ever increasing level of difficulty as the network grows, causing the runs of bad luck to become longer and more frequent.  

You don't need statistics to understand that

For real...I know the mods do their best but it's hard to turn a tidal wave... Stay Classy, San Diego 

I was looking at all the top pools, >50% of the btc network is either owned/invested in by Bitmain or physically located in China  (and/or both): I won't name them but just look at the top 5-6.

Theoretically speaking, couldn't they either benefit from broadcasting to each other what the next blocks are (either on purpose or just the sheer fact of being *physically located* in China) before those communications are received and processed by the other members of the network?
I am constantly seeing triples or quadruples of blocks found by the same pool or the same related 2-3 pools that it just seems to me this could be happening.

I don't know whether it's possible but with how money hungry Bitmain is I have no doubt that they'd do it in a heartbeat if they figured out *how*

Okay then, my bad.  

In other news..

I wondered earlier last week when I started really engaging in this forum why all of the lasting members always seemed so jaded or sarcastic when posting replies to ppl. Now I know: everyone here is constantly bombarded with newbie accounts that either could be legit or could be fake... Most often turning out to be the latter.

I doubt you actually have been mining in the pool with an S7 since Feb, I think you saw that @padrinogtr's post about:


And you thought it could be a quick scam.  Then again this could be me just being paranoid, however, your details don't quite add up, and seems like the whole reason you posted this long story full of irrelevant details just to try and "sell" an S7 on the forum because you lurked and saw an opportunity.  Also the fact that you just registered yesterday to make one post that you're leaving the pool?  Doesn't pass the smell test... sorry you obviously have ulterior motives... Besides, nobody who's a newbie with 0 trust should be trusted to "sell" or "buy" anything from anyone on this site without a trusted forum member or mod to act as escrow... too many scams like the one we just saw about someone PM'ing Kano pool members.

Those "cloud mining" sites you just referred to (after doing a google search on them) seem to be more like HYIP or ponzi type sites.  The only real cloud mining sites where you can either rent hash power and direct it to a particular mining pool are genesis mining, hashing24 and nicehash.

When something says you are "cloud mining" most of the time they are taking bitcoin from new users or referrals and giving it to the older members as a ROI for them to keep them happy and referring new people.

Admittedly I didn't do much research on those three sites you named, so I'm not going to call them "scams" per se (because there is probably a way you can get money out of them) but they would become scams once they reach a certain level where the operators either have collected enough btc that they want to stop or they can no longer pay for interest on the current deposits from new members joining.
There is no such thing as free hashing power, that is just a gimmick.

XMR or Monero is an altcoin and this question would be better asked in the Altcoins section, not the Bitcoin mining section.  Mods will move your thread if you start a discussiin on that.  I know nothing about XMR so please start a new thread in an appropriate section of the Forum.

If all of those are CPU's in your device list, my advice is "don't try to mine bitcoin with CPUs (or GPUs for that matter)".  You might make a few cents a day using nicehash.com but the electricity cost of doing that per day will far outweigh any gains.

If you want to get into mining, buy an ASIC device like the Avalon 741 from Minerwarez.com -- which you can earn $12/day or so in a mining pool or nicehash on that.

Bitcoin?  I'm not sure how you mean "more profitable" ... it depends on what kind of coins you are able to mine, ie. if you have any ASIC mining machines, how many of them you have and what algorithm they were designed to perform (SHA256 or scrypt or X11 etc etc).  An Antminer S9 can't mine ether or Litecoin and an Antminer L3+ can't mine Bitcoin.
Lastly you need to know the sum/total GH/s or TH/s for each algorithm you have available.

If you're talking about GPU mining I'd say unless you have many many high end GPU's in a specialized mining rig, probably no coins are profitable to mine because of the cost of electricity involved, it wouldn't be that efficient or cost effective.

You really need to give more details when asking an open ended question like that, because the real answer to your vague question (without knowing any details) is "it depends"

Plus your question has nothing to do with the OP's question and reason for starting this thread, so its off topic.

Thanks for this @luxMiner and thanks @beltsniffer too for your reply.  I did read the first post but somehow I missed the part about iOS Apps until your replies.  I got the app setup and am happy with the push notifications and the health monitors for my worker on Kano pool.

Anyway, I am glad I stuck with Kano pool during this long ass block.  This pool will end up paying much better than Slushpool...  It seemed odd to me that 2 blocks came in quick succession after the pool server was restarted?  Probably just a coincidence lol or just Lady Luck masquerading as something related to play tricks on the mind... :-/

Hi I have not had this (yet) but I just looked and wanted to see, if you go to that incorrect page and replace the "admin" with "avalon/page/index" does that work and take you back to the correct view?  If it does work, I don't think this would be a long term fix.  This is intriguing to me... I will dig into it more and try to figure out why this happens (so I can also know what to do when/if I see this issue) 

Oh wow, I am surprised I did not run across that link.  I guess it should work with two PSU's..


Have you tried any voltage offsets to get a better result from the miner?  I see there is also a +1 voltage offset which I am assuming would try to draw more power from the PSUs and in effect should get a higher TH/s.  I'm speculating because I cannot test it with my setup either.


I don't know enough about PSUs or the internals to state what exactly could happen either negative or positive when using two with this miner, so if its working now probably ok to stick with what you have.  It also wouldn't hurt to confirm IF you can get Avalon support to reply back...

hey bohoma, I just recently had an issue with my recently purchased Avalon Miner 741 as well... my issue was the 1 power supply I was using (HP 1200w hot plug psu + breakout board) was getting a low voltage from my American 110v power outlet, so it only produced enough wattage to power my Avalon for 10min at a time before it automatically shut down.
I did figure out how to make it work with that PSU, by changing in the Avalon Advanced settings view:

Status Tab > CGMiner Configuration > Voltage Offset setting that to -2
(I don't know if this is the proper way of setting things but it seems to work well)

Now my Avalon 741 works on the 1200w psu with the 110 v outlet, although the compromise is my TH is pretty pinned at 7.2-7.4 TH/s rather than being able to get 8 TH/s like it could with a proper PSU without the voltage offset.  I am doing this and waiting until I can get the 1600w Sorcerer power supply (that is specifically made for the Avalon 741 miner) when it comes available again so I get the full range of TH.

One question I have: why are you using two separate power supplies?  I have also made a similar search when researching my own PSU issues, and nowhere did I find it was proper to use two separate PSUs on an Avalon 741 (I only saw posts about people using the Bitmain Antminer with two separate PSUs, one for each board/side).  The problem I see is that each PSU is separately trying to adjust the output to the machine (without knowledge of the other PSU).  To me that seems like you might overwork both PSUs more than they should be, IMHO.

There may be no problem doing this with Avalons, but I have not seen it documented anywhere like i have seen with the Antminer.

Anyway, my recommendation is if you can do it get only one PSU and preferably something with a higher wattage ceiling so your avalon can get the full power (like the Sorcerer 1600w that Canaan makes).

Anyone know of an existing alert service or web site/app that I could somehow set up to notify me of when Kano pool hits a block?  Like an email would be cool but a text service would be best
Seeing as how we may be here for a bit longer, I just wanted to see if anyone reading this thread/mining in this pool knows of a service to alert me each time Kano pool relays a block...

If nothing like that exists I suppose I could investigate a way to do this thru IFTTT or something similar. 

There is nothing wrong with the pool... its called "luck"

Oh and I also just joined this pool when we were at 26 hours since the last block, but if you look at the past they hit like 5 blocks Oct 15th, 3 blocks on Oct 16th and 2 blocks on Oct 17th.  Like was said above, 'past performance does not indicate future performance'... If you've been mining during this no-block period, you just need to be patient and stick with it until we hit.

Also, as was said previously pools of this size have quite a bit of variance -- if you're looking for a daily adrenaline rush of the pool hitting a block (regardless of if the payout is smaller/bigger) then probably Slush pool would be better for that.  I'm still new to mining and pools, so someone else please correct me if I'm wrong.  I'm still learning. 

Hi lakerunner22 -- I'm no guru but I too recently purchased rom MinerWarez (however mine was a new Avalon 741 miner) and after 3-4 days of fiddling with different things finally got everything running smoothly.  When you say you purchased a "a set" of "Avalon 6['s]" I presume you are talking about the used Avalons they have on the used section of their web site?
The problems I faced were probably different than yours (mine were psu related).

Did you have to re-apply firmware to the controller(s)?  Miner warez hasn't been great at all about getting back to replies -- each time I have gotten a reply from them I've had to submit a new message from their web site....

Thanks, I have poured over (and tried to understand) just about every graph on the site -- they are a great resource.  I'm not worried in the least bit, just the anticipation is killing me hahaha.  Plus I am still reading up on the various mining pool/math terminology and trying to figure out what everything means.

What does it all mean, Bazzle?