Don't be fooled by million dollar back test results.There is no way exchanges can handle trades worth thousands of BTC  without seriously disrupting the market and price. In back tests, every trade is a success, in a real live market it's not that easy. Look for a bot that has a smart trading mechanism. A good bot will try multiple limit ordering attempts, within seconds, to make a trade.  And even then, making a trade in the real live market depends on the available volume. If a bot wants to buy, there has to be enough BTC's at a certain price available. If thats not the case the trade can simply not be made or at a much higher price.

So if you want to trade with bots, use a modest amount of money and be happy with 10-20 percent a month, which certainly beats that what you get in your savings account at your bank. And also realize that there are always risks involved, not that you will loose all your money, but profits can be disappointing compared to the back tests, aspecially if trades can't be made.

At CryptoTrader you can rent the use of a bot, they are not selling them.

I have been using http://Cryptotrader.org for a couple of months now, and it is not a scam. But you will have to be realistic. You will not get rich overnight. Don't be fooled by bots that make millions, it's not possible. But bots can protect your money and make some profit but there are always risks involved.

I have been using http://Cryptotrader.org for a couple of months now, maybe they have some bots you can use

Ik gebruik al enige maanden Cryptotrader. Een site waar je bots zelf kunt maken of kunt huren. Er is een behoorlijk actieve community die zich bezig houdt met allerlei zaken rondom het handelen met trading bots. Er circuleren enkele gratis scripts maar de betere scripts kun je huren vanaf 7 dollar per maand tot 100 dollar. Of zelf maken als je met Coffeescript overweg kan. Je kunt de bots testen op historische data voor verschillende exchanges. Resultaten behaald in het verleden geven enz. enz.
De bots zijn over het algemeen niet instaat winst te maken op een dalende markt. Dus dan is het belangrijk dat er geen geld wordt verloren. Bij een stijgende koers wordt er winst gemaakt.
Zelf heb ik een behoorlijk rendement behaalt, maar het is geen get rich quick scheme. Je kunt een gratis account aanmaken om er eens mee te spelen.

I have been using Cryptotrader for a couple of months now and it's great fun. Am I rich? No, I did make some money using the bots but no miracles. But it usually outperforms buy and hold and I can sleep better not checking the exchanges all the time.

Bots don't usually work with fixed prices. They spot a trend in the market and buy or sell when the trend changes.
Have a look at Cryptotrader.
You can check a bot's performance using historical data.
You can rent a bot for as low as $7,0 a month or use the free scripts available.

@hvanra
DP5uu9eHNWZsZ2j7cSg99wegqLVYc8ub7V

Cheers!

I gave up....


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Hvanra


I've just realized that I used an incorrect address when attempting to fund (deposit into) my account. Rather than sending bitcoins to one of the "funding addresses" that MtGox provides, I accidentally sent bitcoins to an address that MtGox used when sending me a withdrawl in the past. Can you confirm that MtGox owns the address 1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5? If so, can you please credit the 3.46700611 bitcoins from transaction 929ef144e5c7e439684d6f1f9ef86b332546794dcbaaaf61b3f365b72b0894b0 to my account: M90407683X. I apologize for any inconvenience, and will be more careful about funding my account in the future.

Hans


May 24, 2013 00:36

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Linda Support

Support Desk


Hello,

Thank you for the email. I am sorry to inform you that once the withdrawal is initiated it cannot be cancelled or the BTC cannot be retrieved. For your information, 1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5 is a withdrawal BTC address and the BTC cannot be retrieved. Please contact us back for further assistance.

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team


May 29, 2013 18:41

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Hvanra


Hi,

it wasn't a withdrawal. I made a DEPOSIT to 1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5.
Since this address is owned by Mt Gox you are able to credit the bitcoins to my account.

Please look into the matter.

Thank you, Hans


June 01, 2013 03:47
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Marcus

Support Desk


Hello Hans,

Thank you for your reply and sorry for the confusion.

To start with BTC address 1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5 is not linked to your account or any account here in Mt.Gox and please be advised that if BTC address is not linked there is no chance for your BTC to reach your Mt.Gox BTC wallet.

Please contact sender to have your funds returned. Let us know if you would require any further assistance regarding this issue.

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team


June 01, 2013 13:24
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Linda Support

Support Desk


Hello,

Would you require any further assistance regarding this matter?

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team


June 05, 2013 00:59

Thanks Danny for the explanation and help.
In their explanation of funding options:

"To add bitcoins, send to this address (Please be advised that your bitcoin address will change every time that there is a transaction, but old addresses are still USABLE.)"

I have contacted the Mt Gox help desk the way you suggested.

Results (or not) will be posted here.

Cheers, Hans

Well, I have come to the conclusion that it's not about miscommunication but stupidity.

Check the next tread  of this JappoSoap. The advice is nonsense; the Bitcoin address changes with every transaction.

Any advice?

Cheers, Hans

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Hvanra, May 23 01:56 (JST):
 
I am very sorry but I think we are having a miscommunication.
Nothing has been stolen.

I said that bitcoins were sent to my MtGox "account" (1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5), and that the funds are not showing up in the MtGox "account" that should have received them.
 According to the blockchain, the funds are still there.

https://blockchain.info/address/1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5

3.46700611 BTC to be exact. There are over 400 confirmations.
It is just not showing up in my Mt Gox account.

Thank you, Hans

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Linda Support, May 23 20:39 (JST):
Hello,

Thank you for the email. I am sorry to inform you that we are unable to locate the transfer with the Bitcoin address 1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5. You can find your Mtgox Bitcoin address from the steps below

-Login to your Mtgox account
-Click on "Funding options" and select "Add funds" and choose "Bitcoins" from the drop down
-You will find the Bitcoin address of your account.

Please contact us back for further assistance.

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team
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Hvanra, May 23

I can prove that the address was used sending an amount from my Mt Gox account!

Please check this transaction in my account history: 2013/05/18 09:55:57 Withdraw  0.81385120 Bitcoin withdraw to 147gae1XZnB3F18HRusqKu3MfaH8Er2hpt

according to this: https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/0dd62e4644f1b7f47590edbeb860a7da794b0d51217bd0433ae4eaff7f54587d

the send address was 1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5


So this address was be used with my Mt Gox account.

 

Maybe something has gone wrong in your database?

 

Hans

Thank you, I was also under the impression that there was a lot of miscommunication. Problem was that I couldn't put it more clearly than in my initial support request. Maybe it's not clear about what wallet i'm talking about.
I'll give it another try. In my best Jappo-English...i'm Dutch...that's not easy

To say the least...

Hi everybody,

for the past couple of days I have been wrestling with the Mt Gox supportdesk.
Please have a look at the thread below.

Can anyone help me find out what went wrong?

Their final solution is going to the police...

Thanks, Hans
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May 20 20:35


Hello Mt Gox!

On 2013-05-19 a payment was send to me in amount of 3.46700611 BTC.
It was send to 1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5
The transaction has cleared but the sum was not added to my account MXXXXXXXX
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5

The used address came from an earlier payment I made to him via MT Gox, but old addresses are still usable as I understand.

Can you look into the matter?

Cheers, Hans

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Linda Support

Support Desk


Hello,

Thank you for the email. Yes you can use the old BTC deposit address to deposit your BTC. On checking your account I find that you have received some BTC from third party please check and let me know the status. On checking I see that it is good to go. Please advise.

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team


May 20, 2013 21:18
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Linda Support

Support Desk


Hello,

For 3.46700611 BTC. Please check this link: https://blockchain.info/tx/929ef144e5c7e439684d6f1f9ef86b332546794dcbaaaf61b3f365b72b0894b0

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team


May 20, 2013 21:20
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Hvanra


Yes that is correct. Please add the amount to my wallet.
Thank you,


May 20, 2013 21:31
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Linda Support

Support Desk


Hello,

Thank you for the email. On checking your account I find that you have not initiated any withdrawal for 3.46700611 BTC from this following account M90407683X . Kindly clarify your request.

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team


May 20, 2013 21:44
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Hvanra


It is not a withdrawal. It was a payment from third party send to me!
I haven't received the 3.46700611 BTC in my wallet.
in other words: I haven't received a deposit made to 1PZmRkTrBv8sSn1mgYtjeVwJLtxwUGEHr5 in my account.




May 21, 2013 00:37
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Patrick

Mt.Gox


Hello,

Thank you for the email. Please check this link https://blockchain.info/tx/929ef144e5c7e439684d6f1f9ef86b332546794dcbaaaf61b3f365b72b0894b0

In that link you can see that the Included In Blocks shows 236910 this blocks needs to attends zero then only the funds will be credited. It is depends on the internet speed of the destination computer. please wait for that to get zero

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team


May 21, 2013 01:01
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Hvanra


Hi there,

I have been waiting a few days now, and I really don't know what I am
supposed to do.
What has to go to zero? How can I do that?

Please help,

Hans


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Linda Support

Support Desk


Hello,

Sorry for the inconvenience. Please change your email address password and Mt.Gox password immediately. Please do not use the same username and password on different services. You can use the Yubikey or Software Authentication on our Security Center to further secure your accounts.

Please file a police report in order for the police to investigate the case and make an effort to retrieve your funds. We will cooperate with the police authority in providing the necessary information for the investigation, but we are unable to reimburse any stolen funds.

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team


May 22, 2013 22:18
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Please consider this request as resolved