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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Narrative - Token sale concluded, Chaucer Alpha Launched! on: April 23, 2018, 10:23:14 PM
Must have more than 50% to be approved.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] Narrative - One of the First 10 Token Sales on NEO! on: February 18, 2018, 04:00:39 AM
The plans are interesting and we will hope that due to our work the plans will be fully implemented

Thanks, Stasik.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] Narrative - One of the First 10 Token Sales on NEO! on: February 18, 2018, 12:57:54 AM
The news just keeps on coming! We're changing our token symbol (slightly): https://blog.narrative.network/out-with-nrv-in-with-nrve-8991629bc80c.

Hello Rosemary,

With the public sale imminent, I'm finding myself needing to ask a few questions before I take the plunge with Narrative.  I know there is very little time left before the sale, but I'd really appreciate it if you were able to reply in time!  

Think of me as a Fox Mulder 'wanting to believe', but needing to be skeptical.  I also know a number of individuals who right alongside me have wished for something like Narrative to come along for the past fifteen years - I want to contact them and make sure they are on board - they are upstanding individuals with great contributions to make - but these questions are holding me back.

First question
It is highly speculative for people to bid on niches with zero metrics or past performance of the Narrative network to go on, to ascribe reasonable value.
The platform is not operational yet, but the community is being asked to bid against each other over its real estate.  I am not adverse to speculation per se, but we have to be sensitive to the degree of speculation here.  We all want cryptocurrency and blockchain to thrive.  Before true mass adoption can take place, the negative stigma of excessive speculation needs to be overcome.  The NEO founder has nodded towards this reality and I applaud him for it.
So my question is, isn't it multiplying the speculative nature of your platform to do an ICO with no MVP (minimum viable product), and then ask the community to give back many of the speculative tokens they just bought from you, in a second round of speculation, still with no MVP, and with no concrete notion of the returns the niches will generate?
I'm sure it was considered during development meetings, that initial niches could simply be reserved for a nominal fee, on a first come first served basis, and I'm wondering why this option did not get chosen.

Second question
Also concerning niche 'ownership' - it would be more accurate to call it niche leasing.  Is it fair to tell people they will own a niche after paying the highest bid for it (potentially a large sum of money), when in fact they have to pay annual fees in order to keep it, and if they don't, the Narrative organisation gets to auction it again to the highest bidder?  
This concerns me on a number of levels.  

First, the so-called owner of the niche pays an upfront, auction-determined purchase price for what is actually a lease.  

Then the so-called owner puts effort into developing the niche, finding the best moderators, attracting the best content.  They add value to their 'property' which should be on-sellable should they choose to cease to 'own' it.  You buy a house, improve upon it: you expect to be able to profit from those improvements - nothing complicated here.  But with Narrative, the 'owner' loses any value they have added to the niche if they decide to no longer own it, because they can't sell it, from what I have gathered from your white paper.  It sounds like the true owner, the Narrative organisation, gets to have its cake and eat it too: it 'sells' niches to the community, and leases it to them at the same time, while keeping ownership of the niches, and the possibility of selling the niches over and over again via auction.  

So the question is - what am I missing here?
I want this to be a misunderstanding because I really want to have confidence that the Narrative Content Economy is being set up with a fair, optimally decentralised ethos.  This aspect clashes with the ethical ideal of a decentralised economy, and also seems to be being described in misleading terms (ownership instead of leasing).

Third question
There is mention that niches may need to go through a second approval process long after niche reservations, when the platform actually launches.  How will this be managed, after the community has bid upon and secured potentially expensive niches?  By then, many will have done leg work contacting and screening potential moderators, researching methods of attracting quality content etc...  

Fourth question
Would you be willing to consider the following option, and report back publicly on your decision and the reasoning behind it?

- Initial niches are reserved for a nominal fee, on a first come, first served basis, with the person who suggested the niche naturally getting 'first dibs' (or first right of refusal).

- The person who purchases the niche becomes its real owner, not a leasee.  She can still pay an annual 'platform' fee, but if she fails to pay, or if she chooses to sell the niche, the niche is auctioned to the community and the proceeds are paid to her, not to the Narrative organisation.
In this scenario, such auctions would only be allowed to occur well after the platform is launched, so that bids on such niches would no longer be anywhere near as speculative.

Conclusion
This is your project - you have worked hard to bring it to the point it has reached, and the community is watching on with the hope that you - indeed we - succeed in creating a fair, truly decentralised content economy.

I hope you will take these observations and questions in the spirit of constructive criticism, and see them as an opportunity to embody the ideals of fairness and transparency you have spoken of and enthused us with.  


Thanks for the questions!

Regarding Q1:

We actually feel the system we are going with is the fairest possible way to do things.  If we only charged a fixed fee, then potentially valuable "real estate" would be locked up by users for essentially pennies on the dollar.  This way, if more than one person wants a particular niche, they can compete for it fairly, using a market-driven approach. It's true that no one (not even us) knows the true value of these niches prior to the launch of the complete platform and that's why this approach is fair.  A user should only bid what they think is fair value.

In addition, keep in mind that ultimately it is the community that benefits because all revenue from the niche ownership fees goes into network rewards, to be returned to network participants.

Finally, because we are limiting the number of niches that any one user can own or bid on at any time, we expect that to reduce the amount of wild speculation. If I already own 3 niches, I can only have active bids on two niches, since there is a limit of 5 niches per user (owned or bidding on).

Thus, I would argue that the bidding system we have enacted is completely fair and ultimately beneficial for the network as a whole. If one person thinks a niche is worth $1,000 (in tokens), as opposed to the base rate of $75 (in tokens), for example, that entire fee goes into the community pot for redistribution, leading to more revenue for all participants.


Regarding Q2:

We call it ownership because you essentially earn royalties based on the content contained in your niche.  It's kind of like home ownership with a recurring mortgage payment, I suppose. Smiley  We like the term "owner" because of the obvious benefits you receive, whereas a lease does not usually convey such benefits.

You said that the "Narrative Organization" gets to auction off non renewed niches, but that is a misstatement. The organization has no role in this process.  And the revenue collected from the niches- for new niches and for renewals- goes into the Network Rewards pool, which is distributed to all network participants, like all network revenue is.

Regarding Q3:

It is still TBD as to whether or how a re-approval process might work, but obviously if the community later rejects a previously approved niche prior to launch, the niche fee would be returned to the owner.  It is likely that very little work would have been put in by the owner, since this would presumably happen before the launch of the network. But again, this is not even something that has not been decided yet; we simply mentioned it as something that is still under consideration. Also keep in mind that the community can revoke any niche, even after approval through an appeal system... in fact, if we do not require a re-approval on the early niches, then we will likely just rely on that mechanism.  We also do not expect a high rate of rejected niches in either case. Smiley

Regarding Q4:

We like the model we have in place, for the reasons I gave above. I don't see that changing for Chaucer. We will always consider feedback during the alpha period, of course... and ultimately the Narrative Committee that will be put into place (comprised of community members and narrative staff) will have the power to make structural changes to the way things work, if it is deemed necessary.

I also want to reiterate again, since you have mentioned it here too... these fees are NOT PAID TO THE NARRATIVE ORGANIZATION. They are paid to NETWORK REWARDS and distributed to everyone who qualifies based on the network rewards payout formula.  The organization receives only 15% of that revenue, while 85% is returned to the network users.

Thanks for the feedback... I hope it helped. And please feel free to keep that feedback coming!








4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] Narrative - One of the First 10 Token Sales on NEO! on: January 13, 2018, 02:21:05 AM
Thanks, Diggity- we are pretty excited about this, as well. 

We are very anxious to join the thriving NEO community.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Neo Transactions Fees & CoZ Neon Wallet on: January 09, 2018, 04:02:46 PM
NEO currently has no transaction fees. They may decide to charge transactions in the future, but it has not happened yet. Thus, it will no cost you anything extra to send to another account (at this time).
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] Narrative - The Content Economy on: January 05, 2018, 02:04:49 PM
What does it mean that users approve ads?  Like literally, how will that work? 

When a new ad is added to the network (by an advertiser), it will be listed in a "new ads" area, where community members can review them.  There will be a review period per ad (TBD on exact time frame) whereby users can vote on whether to accept/reject the ad.  At the end of the review period, if the ad scores low (has a high "reject" rate), then it will be pulled and not displayed on the network.

The idea here is that the community can determine what kinds of ads it wants.  This gives users even more autonomy over the network.

7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] Narrative - The Content Economy on: January 04, 2018, 11:56:38 PM
Do you need special qualifications to moderate in narrative or can anyone do it? Looks like a nice way to pick up some extra money.

No, there is no certification, but your actions as a moderator will be logged and available for anyone to see, so you are inventized to do a good job, otherwise community members might give you the boot. Smiley

We will also have a Moderator Pool, where moderators can list themselves as available for work and potential "employers" can find mods.



Can I own more than one niche?

And can I moderate my own niches?

Yes, you can own as many as you want. 

You may not moderate a niche you own, however.



Hello Narrative!

Thanks for the newsletter update yesterday!

New question---------------------

any idea what exchanges you will be on later?  I hear it is tough to get listed these days.

No, it is way too early to speculate about exchanges. Smiley 

We'll do our best though when the time comes. Thanks for the question.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook CEO says that he will look into adding crypto to FB on: January 04, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
To be honest I don't trust this guy. Facebook have extremely strong censorship and they are banning everyone for "hate speech" and monitoring user's behaviour (and ofc leaking everything afterwards). Facebook right now is extremely far from giving "the power to the people" and if they make their coin it will definetely be a garbage. I would rather expect something good from Telegram devs.

I'd invite you to check out our new project called Narrative. Our goal is to fundamentally reverse the way social media networks work by giving users complete autonomy and returning 85% of revenue to the users who contribute and participate.

We will also be using User Reputation to influence each user's impact on the network and the rewards they receive.

You can learn more about the project here:

https://www.narrative.network

Recommend reading the WP since it goes into a lot of detail about the way things will work.  
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which Neo Wallet to choose? on: January 04, 2018, 10:05:25 PM
Definitely NEON.  Allows you to claim and hold GAS, as well.  Really nicely done.

You can download it here:
https://github.com/CityOfZion/neon-wallet/releases
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Let's talk alt-coins - No Bull! on: January 04, 2018, 01:58:31 PM
Definitely lots of great projects being developed.  I'm still a big fan of Ethereum, but it will have lots of competition.  It's kind of amazing to see the Cardano price skyrocket even before it has rolled out.  And I still think NEO is extremely undervalued and can compete with Ethereum right now. 

I wrote an article about NEO here:

https://medium.com/@ted.oneill/why-the-future-may-already-be-here-with-neo-824ba801a51b

My intention was not to blast Ethereum in any way, but simply to point out some of the reasons why I like NEO now and going forward.

No matter what your perspective though, it's an amazing time for innovation.  I can't wait to see what happens in 2018.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] Narrative - The Content Economy on: January 03, 2018, 11:04:50 PM
How confident are you guys that you'll be able to launch the network this year?

Very confident.  We'll be licensing technology we developed at our other company and that will help us hit the ground running.  Still a giant undertaking, don't get me wrong, but we've got a lot of experience launching platforms. 

Thanks for the question!



Our latest blog post, this one focusing on Network Rewards- how they work, security, governance, and more:

https://blog.narrative.network/narratives-network-rewards-5fc28d7bc5b3

This was an excellent post.  Really clarified things for me. Thanks, team!

Thanks, vuego.  Glad it helped.



Just a reminder that you get Founder status by contributing 10 ETH or more during ANY phase of the token sale. Just wanted to clarify because some people interpreted the email we sent about the private pre-sale to mean that only private pre-sale contributors qualify for founder status.

Again, any contribution over 10 ETH gives you Founder status. Smiley

Sorry for any confusion.

Here's our old blog post about what Founder status means:

https://blog.narrative.network/founder-status-9a4d7ea4d539
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] Narrative - The Content Economy on: January 03, 2018, 01:43:29 AM
Here is our official post about adding Sergey Vasin, COO of BlackmoonCrypto to our advisory board:

https://blog.narrative.network/sergey-vasin-joins-narrative-advisor-team-504697d4531

We're excited about having Sergey join us!



Our latest blog post, this one focusing on Network Rewards- how they work, security, governance, and more:

https://blog.narrative.network/narratives-network-rewards-5fc28d7bc5b3

I read this earlier today. Thanks for the clear explanation. 

I'm psyched about the tipping feature in particular. That could be huge. 

When do we learn more about this Native project, too?Huh?

Thanks, Diggity!

I agree that tipping is a really interesting component of Narrative.  It gives members the freedom to reward and inspire each other. I hope it will be a feature that a lot of people use.

We're not really saying much about Native at this time. More will be revealed in the future. Smiley



I'm quite excited about the prospects of this project. I used to write for a newspaper (terrible business to be in these days) and I would love to see this work.  I'll likely be an investor AND a user. 

Looking forward to it!

Awesome... great to hear the perspective of a writer.  We hope that Narrative can be a rewarding home for you in the future!

If you have any questions, please let us know.



We'll be speaking at the Crypto Funding Summit in Los Angeles later this month:
https://www.cryptofundingsummit.com/

If you are in the Los Angeles area, stop by and see us!
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt coins with low Capital.. on: December 31, 2017, 03:55:33 PM
Ripple is behaving the same way Bitcoin did 6 years ago . Now is trading below 5$ and I wont be surprise to see it price hit 1500 USD in next 3 to 5 years.

Please do not confuse price with value.  You realize that Ripple has MANY more coins in circulation compared to bitcoin, right?  Ripple is currently the second ranked coin in terms of market cap.  You should not compare it to bitcoin 6 years ago. 

14  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor or Ledger? on: December 30, 2017, 03:47:59 PM
Honestly, I recommend using both. I prefer Trezor but Ledger supports more coins so I need that for the ones that I cannot use Trezor for. 
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who uses myetherwallet? on: December 30, 2017, 12:11:47 AM
MEW is great, but I recommend using it in combination with a hardware wallet like Trezor or Ledger.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO Is Really A Good Investment or Not? on: December 29, 2017, 08:18:38 PM
Definitely do YOUR HOMEWORK!  I've invested in many ICOs myself and am very glad I did, but only after doing my own research.  You need to read the white paper for every project you consider. Learn about the experience of the team behind the project.  And only if you are excited about both of those things should you even consider an investment.

I'm part of a group doing its own ICO now so I'm on the other side of the fence at the moment, but I wouldn't want anyone contributing money to our token sale unless they fully understand what we are doing and believed in its long term success. 

Best of luck to you!

17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] Narrative - The Content Economy on: December 29, 2017, 08:05:57 PM
Just a note that we have opened our Private Pre-Sale, which offers a 22% discount on the public token sale rate.  It does carry a 100 ETH minimum though during this phase.  Don't worry, much lower minimum in later phases!

If you want an invitation for the private pre-sale, contact us at privatepresale@narrative.network.

Happy New Year, everyone!





Our latest blog post, this one focusing on Network Rewards- how they work, security, governance, and more:

https://blog.narrative.network/narratives-network-rewards-5fc28d7bc5b3
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Community For ICO Founders/Leaders on: December 26, 2017, 05:29:15 PM
This is for those of you that have either completed an ICO or have one in process....

As someone going through the process now, it can feel like you are flying blind sometimes.  It's always good to have some advisors who have experience with the process, but I was thinking it might be cool to have a private community only available to ICO founders where we can share ideas, successes, failures, and tips about the ICO process in general.  The idea would not be to compete with each other but to help each other.

It would be important to exclude any outside vendors (ICO marketing groups, directory sites, PR firms, etc.), as well.

Does anyone have any interest in this? If there is sufficient interest, I'l be happy to get the ball rolling.

Let me know what you think!
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will alts crash again ? on: December 26, 2017, 04:51:52 PM
The crypto market is volatile. We will continue to see big gains and major drops. The trend IMO is still UP, but the crypto market is not for the faint of heart.

Thus, my advice is to only advice what you are comfortable losing.  Diversify by splitting your money into multiple investments. If you use Coinbase, consider their automatic investment program to dollar cost average your way into crypto.  And of course do your own research before you purchase a crypto. 

Finally, try to think long-term!
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the newyear 2018 on: December 26, 2017, 04:44:39 PM
I think we will see $50k or higher in 2018.
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