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Okpay was an our partners during long time. But Sergey Mayzus, a main chief of Okpay - is a great liar. He was steal our moneys through our official okpay accounts
are you saying that Sergey bought Okpay to steal the money of all Okpay customers? how was it happened in your case?
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Okpay working with bitcoin is really a reliable. But you have to read all their terms that related to their debit cards, because bitcoin deposit and funds that originates from cryptocarrency are not allowed to upload to their cards.
really? I'm sure I read all the terms before ordering the card. I ordered a card only to withdraw bitcoins and I was f**king angry when it turned out that it is forbidden. Anyway, I agree with you, okpay is good for bitcoins. now I withdraw bitcoin from okpay using bank transfer So, in summary - you can top-up account with bitcoins, however you can't move them to card - but you can withdraw them by wire transfer. Is that correct? yes, quite right. this topic can be closed ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I would like to order the xapo card, never heard about it before, for the first time I heard about it here on the forum. Please share your experience. thank you
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Do I need to verify my account to order Xapo Card?
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Other options like coinpayments will allow you to accept bitcoin without verification.
Are you saying that I can accept btc on my site via coinpayments without verification?
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Okpay working with bitcoin is really a reliable. But you have to read all their terms that related to their debit cards, because bitcoin deposit and funds that originates from cryptocarrency are not allowed to upload to their cards.
really? I'm sure I read all the terms before ordering the card. I ordered a card only to withdraw bitcoins and I was f**king angry when it turned out that it is forbidden. Anyway, I agree with you, okpay is good for bitcoins. now I withdraw bitcoin from okpay using bank transfer
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using a bank wire transfer from my okpay wallet
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As it is written in their official forum https://forum.okpay.com/thread/accepting-btc-on-our-site/, you have to register a corporate account and verify it. After that you have to apply for activation of payment methods. As far as I understood, you need to have an officially registered company (to provide corporate documents for verification)
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Maybe okchanger.com?
okchanger.com is good enough as an analogue of bestchange.com
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What about Neteller?
Neteller itself don't have chargeback possibility but it all depends on the payment method used to fund the account. If for example someone fund his account using a credit card and then send you funds, If he contact the credit card company claiming the payment was unauthorized, there is a possibility that the will chargeback it and you will get affected. So, while dealing with Neteller, always ask for proof on how the account was funded. (If bitcoin for example was used, no fear). Absolutely right! No matter that transfer service is non-reversible (like Neteller or OKPAY), there is a possibility that the client will get chargeback if it was a payment via plastic card. So this is not the fault of Paypal and it would be fair to change the name of the topic =)
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Why do I have to invest my bitcoins anywhere? Bitcoin is an excellent investment in themselves! It's a better way to invest money in bitcoins and just wait. In a couple of years you'll hit the jackpot!
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You can search local exchanges or find Bitcoin ATM to withdraw cash. Is Bitcoin legal in your country?
Legal Bitcoin ATM - it is just a dream in my country ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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I ordered too, one virtual card but instead of giving me virtual card instantly after payment system generated an automated support ticket than after few days their support ask for address verification which I have done with them before too. But after sending that same document they just rejected it. I got fed up with them and finally asked for refund and they have refunded me. I was in a similar situation, asked for a new document, although I was already verified. Support told me that the card issuer bank did not like my address doc which was accepted for verification. So I provided another address document. Because I really needed Okpay card. Otherwise I would tell them go to hell.
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As others have mentioned there are various exchanges that will allow you to withdraw your bitcoin to fiat, you will need to abide by their KYC - know your customer process which means confirming your identify which might take some time.
You could also use a debit card which you can find loads of information about by searching the forum, with any option you choose there will be fees involved in the conversion.
Verification is the price that I had to pay for using Okpay to withdraw my bitcoin to fiat. Unfortunately, it is forbidden to withdraw bitcoin to Okpay card. But I hope the situation will change and Okpay will understand that they losing huge profits because of this.
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Bitcoin will still be able to provide all of its needs at a possible drop in prices. The fact is that today the price is really rising and it seems to me that buying Bitcoin today is a little impractical. There will be a moment when the price will fluctuate and even then it will be possible to make a small purchase before the next bar ahead. [/quote] This is exactly the moment I'm waiting for. But it seems this will not come true... ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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for me porn sites only waste of money better pay for girl
My girl does not accept bitcoins ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) , so I usually hang on porn sites ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I used wirex on the past and it was one of the best cards that i have ever used until they had a lot of issues and i had to change to okpay, it is the best card, because it is very easy to use and it has very low fees. Xapo card is a good one too, but the fees are pretty high and this made me stop using their service because it was insane just to pay more than three dollars per every transaction with your debit card, it is more than a daily salary in a third world country. And if i am not wrong, the okpay card is below twenty dollars each one.
I ordered the okpay card for 15 dollars. It looks like nothing has changed https://www.okpay.com/personal/payment-cards/okpay/And what kind of problems with wirex card are you talking about?
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okpay is really a good idea to work with bitcoins, but you can not move btc from your okpay wallet to your card =( by the way, it is non-reversable
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