Laurent has been lying to investors dozens of times, it's well documented and obvious to anyone who is willing to face the sad reality.
He is complicit in this fraud and produced a lot of evidence being used lawsuits in Germany, by investors and prosecutors.
There us 0 reason to believe a notorious liar and spin-doctor.

Sad project status, it was so promising. I feel like they lied to us big time.
Some 'Envion Watch' of investors was founded.

They wrote this article “Fact-Checking Envion’s Top 10 Misleading Communication Claims”:
https://medium.com/@EnvionWatch/fact-checking-envions-top-10-misleading-communication-claims-238e3bdabc9e

Good summary of what went wrong with Envion (as we now so far):

Here the list of Envion’s Big 5 Failures:

1) *Incomplete Prospectus* omitted the real picture of Envion’s behind-the-scenes corporate structure including involved key entities (Quadrat GmbH and Trado GmbH), the core business role of Trado (e.g. ICO, IP, token generation etc.), its shadow CEO Michael Luckow and related ‘founders’. Discrepancies exist between prospectus and whitepaper re shareholders and founders. Why the secrecy about real structure, shareholders and founders?

2) *Corporate Raiding* by CEO Mathias Woestmann and accomplices, abusing an inadequate corporate structure and allegedly trying to secretly sell Envion. Woestmann claims to have justification for his capital increase (which undoubtedly breached a Quadrat-Trado contract) but no hard evidence has been brought forward yet. Why the strange silence? Fraud?

3) *Insider Trading* by undisclosed ‘founders’ using a backdoor created via modifying the previously audited EVN smart contract. Tokens worth millions of US$ sold before end of an earlier in place and communicated 6 months lock period, via an undisclosed 3rd party. Investors were not informed upfront about smart contract manipulation or token sales. Exact amounts, use and whereabouts of resulting funds unknown. Why the secrecy? Fraud?

4) *Misleading Communications* towards investors overselling positive news (‘hardware arriving’, ‘production started’, ‘mining started’, LOIs etc.) and hiding factual ‘negative’ news (Enel and PWC drop off, fallout between CEO & founders, founders’ selling of tokens etc). Critical voices are banned from Telegram channels and critical media reports arrogantly dismissed as ‘irrelevant’. Complicit in fraud?

5) *No Mining, Huge Losses*. To date, instead of hundreds of mining units generating the heavily promoted 161% ROI, investors face up to 85% losses of their investments. Court cases between parties and investor protection lawsuits are underway, making it impossible to assess if there ever will be Envion mining payouts. One of the biggest ICO fails in history?

Unless a major breakthrough surprisingly would happen, the conflict could go on for years. Looks like courts will now determine the fate of Envion.

Source: https://medium.com/@franzemonaco/envions-big-5-failures-c8b60c07f079

Good summary of what went wrong with Envion (as we now so far):

Here the list of Envion’s Big 5 Failures:

1) *Incomplete Prospectus* omitted the real picture of Envion’s behind-the-scenes corporate structure including involved key entities (Quadrat GmbH and Trado GmbH), the core business role of Trado (e.g. ICO, IP, token generation etc.), its shadow CEO Michael Luckow and related ‘founders’. Discrepancies exist between prospectus and whitepaper re shareholders and founders. Why the secrecy about real structure, shareholders and founders?

2) *Corporate Raiding* by CEO Mathias Woestmann and accomplices, abusing an inadequate corporate structure and allegedly trying to secretly sell Envion. Woestmann claims to have justification for his capital increase (which undoubtedly breached a Quadrat-Trado contract) but no hard evidence has been brought forward yet. Why the strange silence? Fraud?

3) *Insider Trading* by undisclosed ‘founders’ using a backdoor created via modifying the previously audited EVN smart contract. Tokens worth millions of US$ sold before end of an earlier in place and communicated 6 months lock period, via an undisclosed 3rd party. Investors were not informed upfront about smart contract manipulation or token sales. Exact amounts, use and whereabouts of resulting funds unknown. Why the secrecy? Fraud?

4) *Misleading Communications* towards investors overselling positive news (‘hardware arriving’, ‘production started’, ‘mining started’, LOIs etc.) and hiding factual ‘negative’ news (Enel and PWC drop off, fallout between CEO & founders, founders’ selling of tokens etc). Critical voices are banned from Telegram channels and critical media reports arrogantly dismissed as ‘irrelevant’. Complicit in fraud?

5) *No Mining, Huge Losses*. To date, instead of hundreds of mining units generating the heavily promoted 161% ROI, investors face up to 85% losses of their investments. Court cases between parties and investor protection lawsuits are underway, making it impossible to assess if there ever will be Envion mining payouts. One of the biggest ICO fails in history?

Unless a major breakthrough surprisingly would happen, the conflict could go on for years. Looks like courts will now determine the fate of Envion.

Source: https://medium.com/@franzemonaco/envions-big-5-failures-c8b60c07f079

Is it confirmed that these are the correct Envion tokens? There has been confusion and mix up with 'Environ' and EVN vs ENV.

Very excited about Envion. Finally an ICO and value proposition that is not based on lofty future ideas but this is measurable and solid. In the normal business world ROI of over 160% are unheard of but with crypto seems realistic. Of course risks remain and everyone needs to do own due diligence.

The Envion team has been keeping all promised in my view. The Telegram channel is overloaded and confusing but their official documents, e.g. email, Medium and website are very professional. Give them some space, too, a small team that has to deal with over 20,000 new investors in short time.

Best of luck Envion implementing! I'll look forward to HODLing and the payouts.

In my books they kept all promised so far. For instance their prospectus was available at time of ICO.
See: https://static.envion.org/kyc/Envion_Prospectus.pdf

Bpress, grow up and do your homework before making baseless accusations. Is it too difficult to do some research and/or ask some questions before shouting around?

If you would have done some research you'd have found out that the payout is in ETH. The EVN token is used for the smart contract and delivery of the payout. Why should Envion not be able to compete with other big players? Doesn't $150m make them a big player with privileged access to cheap energy and preferential hardware deals? Also very detailed calculations available on ROI etc.

Show me any other ICO with this level of detailed information, transparency and communications,

I recently emailed the Frauenhofer Institute in Germany to get confirmation about the partnership that Envion announced with them.

Today, Mr. Hollinger from Frauenhofer answered, confirming that they are collaborating with Envion AG:
"You where contacting us to get information about our cooperation with the envion AG. Today, I can inform you that we added a short notice at our homepage news area: http://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/de/presse-und-medien/news/2017/fraunhofer-ise-untersucht-energieversorgungskonzepte-fuer-mobile-datenzentren.html"

It's a short text in German stating that Frauenhofer is researching energy supply concepts for mobile data centers in shipping containers which are used by Envion AG for cryptocurrency mining.

How do you view Envion's ICO? See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2348435.0;all
Looks legit...

@envion, thanks for fast replies.

Dragos Roua has some very interesting questions on his blog, could you pls. respond?
1) "shortly, Ethereum will move to Proof of Stake, so mining Ethereum will no longer be possible
2) Bitcoin mining infrastructure is already decades away in places like China or Iceland, where they plugged into solar plants, thermal water plants or river power plants, entire factories, not just pop-up units - that leaves very few profitable currencies that you can mine ..."

Source: https://steemit.com/blockchain/@dragosroua/envion-promises-a-self-expaning-mining-infrastructure-and-obviously-there-s-an-ico-involved

I'm very interested to invest but need more information:
1) Is there a solid, comprehensive Risk Analysis available, beyond the few sentences in the whitepaper? I'd assume there are numerous know and unknown risk, be it financial, technical, operational, sustainability, scalability, regulatory etc. Is there a comprehensive overview if these, plus risk mitigation strategy?
2) The mentioned Audit by one of the Big Four, when will it come out? before 1st Dec.?