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1  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I bet it all in bitcoin? on: January 12, 2019, 10:39:30 AM
"If I'm right in the thesis, what do I get?"

"But on the other hand, if I am wrong, what is the maximum I lose?"

With these two bezels on your head, it's easy to size and risk your bet.


The risk is huge and so we must scale very well the amount we have to lose, not to fall into the fallacy of trying to solve life with a single shot.

Only too many people are blinded by their optimism and fail to see the downside. It seems that when it comes to investing people are a lot more naive than in other aspects of life where they're able to think rationally and adapt to risk.
I would say people who are in this market are just assuming in their head right now how well bitcoin is going to make them rich in the long term and they are not investing because they believe in the long term potential when it comes to the usage of the market globally for a lot of reasons. So, trust me, I am not surprised if I see a lot of people in this market with their naivety seeing this space as gambling and not even considering the risk involved before hitting the market to invest or trade.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What to do if you are deceived? on: January 11, 2019, 11:58:12 AM
maybe in the meantime when I was deceived I couldn't do anything, but there were some suggestions from my friends to report it to CIE whether it could work or not. I haven't tried it yet.
Do not stress yourself, as long as it is this market and for now there is no regulation in place, there is so little you can do in reporting fraudsters, and it is not like they will give you their identity in the first place. Most important thing is to ensure you have all the details of what you are investing in. Dig as deep as you can and don't fall for anything you are not sure about. I always keep saying as long as you know you are not sure of what you are investing in, then, do not invest.
3  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: could it be the next scenario? on: January 11, 2019, 10:06:49 AM
Buying bitcoin and holding them for years will be more profitable than any other investment plans.
You may be correct with this statement,but the major reason why most traders favor short term/active trade is lack of huge capitals to engage in long term trade
Because in my opinion for one to make profits from long term hodling,you will have to use a substantial amount to purchase the coins,so at least a double of your investment price would be worthwhile for you

But with Little capital,it will be best to trade actively,probably arbitrage trading and rack up little profits overtime,as the ROI comes quickly,the little profits wouldn't matter that much
Little capital or huge capital, what is important is to understand what you are doing. However, no matter how little you think your capital is (at least to you), you have to realize that profitability is by choice and that is based on how you are able to find knowledge, stick to a pattern you are cool with and trade it accordingly. People tend to think trading should be an easy money making venture, but you have to realize that even with your little or big capital, you can still quickly blow it all away within a short period if you are ignorant.
4  Economy / Speculation / Re: Tone Vays Is 85% Certain Bitcoin (BTC) Hasn’t Hit True Bottom on: January 10, 2019, 03:32:46 PM
Does his Mom cut his hair with a knife & fork?

Seriously who cares what this douche predicts. These guys are wrong with their price predictions all the tike. Throw enough shit at a wall & eventually some of it will stick.
Lol. Honestly, no one cares! Bunch of guys like this just trying to gain recognition for their stupidity and as far as I am concerned, the only thing guys like this are good for is baseless predictions and trying to tell you I told you so in the long run. I only blame those who act on what they say. No one can predict whatever happens to the market, anything any one says is just baseless speculation. Whether the market has reached bottom or not, only time and trend can give that answer, and the last time I checked, Tone Vays is not time and trend.
5  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What coins do you like to trade the most? on: January 10, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
Bitcoin still remains my top notch coin to trade, with some few altcoins on the top 20 (some of them though). Basically, most of the other altcoins below that for me, is more like a long term thing for me, which I tend to buy low based on some trend changes, and then sell high as the case may be. However, for short term possibilities and gains, I tend to prefer, bitcoin the more for a lot of reasons. For strategies, I am a momentum trader, and I still do that making sure my stop loss is intact.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: is investing in ICO's a good option? on: January 10, 2019, 09:11:30 AM
It's not a good idea if you have very little money and can't risk making a mistake. Most ICOs are and will be scams. You can calculate your chances in many different ways it can be 30 to 70 or 20 to 80 but in the end you will be at a disadvantage. If you have a lot of money already invested in Bitcoin you can always put 10% of it into ICOs.
Well, it is a normal thing to back away from something as a person, most especially when the condition is not favorable for investment and that is how I basically feel most investors are thinking right now when it comes to investing in ICOs. Certainly 2018 was like the worst year for most ICOs, but it is what it is. However, it is interesting to note that a lot of investors are becoming wiser these days while making sure they consider what they are investing in first before investing in it, unlike before.
7  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin price and January on: January 09, 2019, 07:52:14 PM
That would be a hard thing to tell for now, if you want to start comparing last year with this year, you have to realize these are basically two different scenarios entirely. However, it is the market, anything can still happen, but I usually prefer to use the trend for direction and not stick my mindset to what happened in the past. Sure, there is a likelihood we might go down lower, or consolidate for a while, but time will surely tell, and how we are able to use the trend to our advantage is what matters anyway, but if you want to consider all the Januaries from the beginning of time when bitcoin gets trade-able in the market, you will realize even your past assumption is wrong.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Committing Suicide? on: January 09, 2019, 04:03:43 PM
I have never even seen any good reason for huge caps, and the funniest thing is that some of them do not even really have so much to offer in the first place and all they care about is to make huge and shit load of money. Trust me, the main theme for the ICO market presently as far as I am concerned right now is 'high level of greed'.
9  Economy / Economics / Re: PREDICTION IS SOMETIMES LIKE A FALSE PROMISE on: January 09, 2019, 01:59:06 PM
As long as bitcoin high volatility hasn't been addressed; pumps and dumps and high rates of manipulation still at large, 95% of all predictions will still be untrue. Not because proper analysis wasn't done before the predictions were reached but because of other factors beyond the control of the predictors (experts alike). That is why it is very dangerous to make trading decisions solely on predictions.
Right.I agree on you.No one can tell exactly what will really happen in the future since bitcoin is still constantly changing because of its high volatility.But still there are a lot of predictions appear even in the start of the year.There's no harm in always believing from different predictions as long as you also do your part.Like in trading,you have to be more focused on the movement of the market and even on the coins itself,those potential ones and those who don't even have value from the start.
Predictions were never even meant to be a promise, they are just basically a means of anticipating what could actually end up happening in a market position as the case may be. The thing is that a lot of people usually assume that when it comes to predictions, they should always be right, but in the real sense, if predictions were meant to be 100% right, there would have been no need for stop losses.
10  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen to Bitcoin if there is a global economic crash? on: January 08, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
  Bitcoin is different currency if ever we have an economic crashed or economic crisis, bitcoin will not be affected. The currency affected is Fiat money.
  Crypto currency can help through subsidized the affected party through use bitcoin as a currency reserved to can pay all the debt of those financial institution affected
I want to believe in the scenario of a global economic crisis, a lot of people and investors will need to put their funds in places where they can still store value for their money. We all do not know yet how bitcoin or the likes will be serving at times like this, since this will simply be the first use case scenario in terms of a financial crisis, but one thing is certain, it was created for that reason and I believe it should serve that reason ultimately.
11  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Holding coins on: January 08, 2019, 02:22:21 PM
Anything over $20 goes directly into cold storage. Sometimes I change this amount, but it's always a low amount. I'm not risking losing anything more than $100 USD; as such, not really considered closed or open source.

For the wallets I do use, I use only open source wallets. I wouldn't trust anything in Bitcoin that isn't open source TBH. Other software vendors in other industries may be able to get away with it, but with BTC (or other cryptos) the risk is just too real.

As long as it is even an asset, losing it should not even be an option because even if you think the amount it is now is small, in the next couple of years, you would end up finding out what you lost could have amounted into something huge. I guess those who lost their bitcoin when it was less than a dollar would have that to attest to at this stage even with how bitcoin is low today. This is one good reason why for long term holders, it is always very necessary to make sure you are using a wallet where you have full access to your assets and cannot easily get exposed to vulnerabilities.
12  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 4 Things Traders Must Do To Be Successful on: November 01, 2018, 06:27:20 AM
1) Good mindset
2)money management
3)develop there own trading system
4)never complicate things , use simple things it works great,
5)practice   
not only that can make our trade work well, but with patience is the key to our success because by overcoming the market conditions that are destroyed again, patience is what we will definitely use to avoid losses that will be received
Sometimes, when I see the way people analyze patience when it comes to trading, I tend to wonder if they actually understand what trading means at all.

Trading is not investment that you are just holding for the long term, which in this case, you are basically taking advantage of the fluctuations, and patience is actually the last thing you want to be considering.

Have knowledge, build a strategy which includes where to buy, sell and place stop loss, and then execute it with confidence after practising for a while, and i see no way patience should even come into that equation at all.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: VR ICO, has anyone tried any? on: October 31, 2018, 02:49:03 PM
If you are talking about the idea of virtual reality and its long term prospect, I would say there is a big prospect but a lot of questionable efforts so far with most of the project's approach.

However, if you are referring to trust here, then a lot of that will have to do with the team, the availability of product and the business solution or vision of the team in the long run. A lot of people have invested into empty promises or scams because they do not get to check all of that.
14  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency - future? on: October 31, 2018, 01:44:21 PM
What do you think will happen with the cryptocurrency in the future?
no one can answer with certainty the future development of crypto currencies because it's already the risk and nature of investment with crypto currencies but if our beliefs will make crypto currencies develop
That is one thing that is for sure, but looking at most of the development going on in our world today, the fact that instead of fighting it, most countries are beginning to see it as an alternative payment tool that will actually even help them boost their economy looking at the likes of Malta, Japan and the rest, and then over time, i believe as we move on, we will get to see even much more development in this space, that will make more investors feel relaxed to want to come in and be able to benefit from the main value that this space brings.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is altcoin worth investing? on: October 31, 2018, 06:27:45 AM
Altcoin prices are currently very cheap so when you talk about altcoin investments at this time it is very profitable but it's better you can buy an altcoin that has good movement and has the potential to be very expensive. for example altcoin XRP, Ethereum, XLM and others.
Being cheap does not mean you should just hop into anything you see. Some altcoins may be good for investment and some may not be good. One thing you just have to understand is to have the knowledge to be able to differentiate between what you should be taking a risk on, and what you should not even be bothering taking any risk on, everything about altcoin is risky, and there is no doubt about it, and it is how you manage the risks most of the time that matters at the end.
16  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will die at 2027 on: October 30, 2018, 01:38:47 PM
That means we have to sell before 2027? People who hates bitcoins never stops telling when bitcoin is going to die.
Bitcoin died so many times in this forum l
300+ times
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/
Grin Probably that should give some people the clue that, no matter how much some keep pronouncing bitcoin dead, it just keeps coming back stronger, and in the end, they that pronounced it dead and those who want to believe that, are actually the ones who always miss out at the end. This is nothing new though, and i know even if bitcoin gets to possibly over $1m, and there is a correction, some will still keep coming with their obituary posters.
17  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: How to make 12BTC with just 0.005BTC on: October 30, 2018, 12:40:44 PM
Since you have so much money to spare, why ask us to put in a one time payment of 0.005BTC when you can just ask us to drop our address now and start giving us 12BTC each?

I am sure it is either you are basically high on some cheap weed to think we all will be dumb enough to believe this or you are basically just living in your own fool's paradise. You really do need to get a better job as this just made you sound extremely foolish. Ponzi schemes at this age? Anyone who falls for this is just as dumb as you are.

If you want to take that as an offense, read my lips; I do not care! I wonder why my middle finger tend to get an erection at times like this.

I know it sound to good to be true but there are 1400 in the telegram group they can answer any questions you have.

I am happy you realized that yourself.
18  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at Yuletide on: October 29, 2018, 06:39:17 PM
I would say it depends on how things get to play out during or before the yuletide season. If we get to have some pretty good growth, with some chances of seeing the market make a huge move somehow to the upper side, and knowing there could be a correction afterwards for the mean time, before we continue with the uptrend in 2019, then I may likely sell, but not because I need money for some Yuletide, but because i need more money to increase my stash for the future. Pretty much that is what counts for me at this stage.
19  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why you buy Cryptocurrency ? on: October 29, 2018, 03:57:19 PM
Most people have the same reason why they buy crypto, that is to earn profit and to change financial to be better , although i dont not understanding how blockchain technology work but crypto and this technology has potential to change amillion financial's people in the world. Since Bitcoin created and tradeable in that times more milyuner was born from crypto.
You're right, even I am like that. I don't really understand this system, but I can use it. of course that is all to get a better profit, and improve the economy that I have. well, because of that, most people buy crypto to try to use it to get a good profit.
Sometimes, I still find it a bit hard to believe that people could be a part of a system, and they really do not care about the system or do not even want to bother to understand it, which is one of the reasons why we will keep seeing those who are just so keen about trying to only make something out for themselves in the short term and never be able to focus on long term.

Buying cryptocurrency should be because you actually know what you are getting into and what you are holding in terms of its potential and what makes it tick for the long run.
20  Economy / Trading Discussion / New to trading? Learn to be an emotionless trading machine on: October 29, 2018, 03:36:45 PM
I know this may sound somehow impossible for some, but really, to be successful in trading, you need to have the mind of a machine. Now, you cannot have this if you do not have a strategy and you cannot have a strategy if you do not take your time to learn.

Let me explain myself better, for instance, when using trading robots, you input your strategy, and they do it better because there is no emotion attached to it, except that they just do exactly what they are programmed to do. You cannot do well without a strategy and you cannot do well too when you keep changing strategies over and over again.

Learn, get a strategy, build on it, and then trade it like a pro. It is imperative that you get to see trading as a profession, which would always make you to see yourself having to let your strategy play out than letting your emotions rule you, which I believe most new traders are guilty of.

What makes you even better than a machine is the fact that you can think, you can fine tune your strategy with experience you keep gaining over time, but when it comes to never letting your emotions come before your strategy, you need to be like a trading machine.
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