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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: November 21, 2017, 08:12:06 AM

It's a classic PR spin. A little bit, but not too much of wearing sackcloth and ashes. Promise that they will improve and talk about technicalities. Personal reply to everyone that gives them support.

If you look at the content, they've addressed none of the concerns community had and made it hostile towards the management in the first place.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: November 19, 2017, 01:17:46 PM
If only 1 millions are burnt, it will make a huge demand supply gap

They burned 750k in Q3, ICN price went down 60%. Not sure what kind of effect you think 1M burnt would have?

ICONOMI has now locked their Reddit channel.
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hypothetically, if bitcoin is to become the new global currency... on: November 19, 2017, 03:18:10 AM
It would likely be far cheaper for the world government shutdown the Bitcoin network with network filtering and establish alternative under their control.
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Starting an ICO - feasible? on: November 19, 2017, 03:08:44 AM
Waves DEX is to restrictive and will turn off many people that would normally participate in the ICO, but if your idea is good, you might get the targeted 50k.
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: where goes the lost bitcoins? on: November 19, 2017, 03:01:33 AM
Every lost Bitcoin reduces the number of Bitcoins in circulation. The scarcer it gets, the higher the value per Bitcoin. So in a way every Bitcoin owner benefits from this.

I don't think this is true, the impact I mean. For the lost supply to influence demand wouldn't the market need to be aware of it? And the market can never be aware of the lost supply.

Maybe it's the fact that the fraction of people who would have had those coins are no longer participating in the market as sellers that really influences that supply vs. demand equation.

Any economists out there care to comment?

Exactly, market is only aware of it through the supply/demand of the guy who lost Bitcoins. Considering he will not be able to sell the lost coins at some point, this reduces future supply and consequently increases the price. Also, he might want to purchase more coins, because he lost some, so that increases demand and again the price. So lost coins do not influence supply/demand by itself, the guy that lost them does.
6  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people like Trump? on: November 19, 2017, 02:54:19 AM
Because people are sick of elites and this was one of the rare occasions when they had a change to show them the middle finger - if only by electing a different kind of elite.
7  Economy / Economics / Re: Are cyoptoeconomics changing economic theory? on: November 19, 2017, 02:44:29 AM
What do you think cryotocurrencies will do the current economical environment we have today? Tokenization is a way to digitalise assets, and this might force us to rethink value, as it is perceived today.
What is your opinion on this?

No, not really. Futures have already "digitalized" all kinds of assets, so this is not new. Other things such as supply, demand, rational human behaviour and greed - it's all there.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: November 19, 2017, 02:37:06 AM
Strange that ICN price is tanking further.
November AMA is not really convincing, but I didn't really expect anything to be honest.
Probably there will be a bit of a delay in releasing the platform. I hope to have some good news by jan/feb next year...

Strange? Have you seen the Q3 numbers? With Q3 rate it will take 222 years to burn all the ICN tokens but only a few years to use all ICO money for operational expenses and only if they will not use more ICO money to fund their pet project and not loose more money due their technical incompetence. They have already spent $57M ICO money to launch their private companies Columbus Capital and Cofound.it from which ICN investors have nothing, no fees, nothing. You basically gave your money so they can play with it and you are getting no return. They've also lost all Eth, $36M due to Parity bug, so from $120M ICO money they have less than $30M left.

After a year they have shown no real income, all promised features are still just a promise and they are increasingly hostile to their investors. Today their CIO lost his nerve:
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Actually I’m not patient anymore. This community feels like backstabbing all the time (with few bright exceptions), searching for slightest details to s**t on. Might really have been last monthly AMA because of how things are going.

In a year, they will channel out ICO money for their bonuses and new pet projects and the $120M ICO money will be gone and ICN with it.
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