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1  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: July 14, 2018, 06:12:33 AM
DeepWebsitesLinks.com == SmartMix.io == SCAM

Scammers behind both of these sites.   

Deepwebsitelinks.com (email: deepwebsiteslinks@protonmail.com) had removed SmartMix.io (email: smartmix@protonmail.com) from the top spot on its list of 5 best mixers a couple of weeks ago...
however, now SmartMix.io is once again listed as the #1 mixer on deepwebsitelinks.com and the "scam complaints" warning has been removed.

Stay away from both of these SCAM websites.

Partial email thread with deepwebsiteslinks follows:

__________________________________

Thanks so much aware about his service, I will contact him right now and delete his service as a scam. Thanks so much for give your valuable time.

Regards

https://www.deepwebsiteslinks.com
Email: deepwebsiteslinks@protonmail.com
Live Chat: ricochet:6u6riblnrjw6wxpy


‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On June 29, 2018 6:24 PM, Deepwebsiteslinks <deepwebsiteslinks@protonmail.com> wrote:

By the way thanks so much for aware about this service, are you victime of his service. If yes then please show me some proof
I will delete and notify scammer right now.

Regards


‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On June 29, 2018 3:34 PM, xxxxxx <xxxxx@xx.xx> wrote:

Hi,

The mixing service, SmartMix.io, you have listed as #1 on your website is a confirmed scam.

Here's a thread on bitcointalk.org discussing it. 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.new#new

Another blog webmaster, upon receiving the evidence below, and the attached .pdf, pulled every promotional article about SmartMix.io from his site and issued this warning:

https://www.cryptocoinupdates.com/scam-alert-smartmix-io-is-a-confirmed-scam/

I hope after reviewing the evidence, you consider doing something similar too.

_________________________________________


2  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: July 01, 2018, 08:25:16 PM
Could you please correct your list?
The fact is that one of the services, namely SmartMix.io was charged with a scam March 23, 2018.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.msg32960872#msg32960872
After that, several more users confirmed that they had lost coins.
To date, the SmartMix.io did not make any reply messages, which indicates that the service most likely ceased to exist.

Progress on taking down SmartMix.io


CryptoCoinUpdates.com was the first to respond.  They removed all SmartMix promotional articles, issued a scam warning, and rebuffed the scammer when asked that the scam warning be taken down.

LeGaulois has updated his list and has removed SmartMix.io.

DeepWebsitesLinks Top 5 Bitcoin Tumblers list had SmartMix.io listed as its #1 tumbler.   It has been moved down to #7, and is now appears as "7. SmartMix.io (Got Scam Complain)."  They still have some work to do, however, as listing SmartMix.io at all places readers at risk.
3  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: July 01, 2018, 08:14:48 PM
Hi
I kept reading you to see everything and now removed it from the list
Thank you

Thank you.
4  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: June 30, 2018, 05:44:16 PM
Yes please, if you have an undeniable proof can you post it here for everyone to see? If it"s needed I will, of course, update the list and remove the site. Thanks

Hi Legaulois,

I've posted proof that SmartMix.io steals user's bitcoin, yet I see that you still have SmartMix.io on your list of mixers. 

If something about the evidence I've posted leaves you with any doubt, would you please explain so that I can have a chance to clarify?

Thanks
5  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: June 29, 2018, 09:51:37 AM
SmartMix.io is a scam - Part 2

In Part 1, the following was established:

1. The user’s 1st Tx with SmartMix.io appeared to succeed; user sent 0.7001 BTC to SmartMix.io and got back 0.7 BTC (nothing being said here about whether the coins were mixed or not; just that SmartMix.io sent back the users’s BTC).
2. The user’s 2nd Tx with SmartMix.io failed.  User sent 1.8620081 BTC, and received nothing back.

User submitted several support requests via the contact form on SmartMix.io’s website, but received no response…

...that is, until a couple days later, when a blog webmaster, upon reviewing the evidence, acted with awesome integrity and pulled every SmartMix.io promotional article from his blog and issued a scam warning.

Emailing from smartmix@protonmail.com (email address not listed anywhere on SmartMix.io's website) the scammer wrote to the user:

Quote
“please excuse our late answer.
Your support requests from aebib@pm.me landed in our spam folder.
The only thing that actually came through were the threats sent with the adresses smartmix@gmx.net and dead@youare.com. (not so nice)
We will investigate the situation and check all the information you provided us.
This may take a day.”

Not that it's relevant, but the user did not submit any support requests using ANY of the email addresses listed in the scammer's email, and did not send any threats. 

That was the only communication the user ever received from the scammer.

The user responded to the scammer’s email as follows:

Quote
“Your support form should not have a "spam" folder, but rather, should be attentively monitored, like a professional business would operate. 
It's not "nice" to be unresponsive when dealing with large amounts of your customer's funds.

Resolution. 

1) Look here:  
https://blockchain.info/tx/50135c1e012202f60ac414faebeec8a1a138589fa1bbf86c7d40cad0922790d1

Notice that your address - 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj4 - received 1.86200821 BTC from my addresses, 1PoPLJYdw17p6PQeVYNHFz32Z74VtXkEfZ, 
1Mvfd79nvJLbfeKZHFFrfHwCb2gEVUnrVR.

2) Review your records and notice that you have not delivered the 1.86100821 BTC (minus your 0.0001 Tx fee) owed to me.

3) Look here: 
https://blockchain.info/address/1DFnmz26X4c3gBtpbgwz2HRJHkCqJfRuh1

That is the output address I specified when I initiated the mix.  Notice that it has zero balance, and zero Txs.

4) Send 1.86100821 BTC to the above address and we're good.

Your prompt attention here is important.”

While the scammer never emailed the user again, on 6/23/2018, he did email the blog webmaster:

Quote
“after carefully analyzing all transactions and mixer logs we found the following:

1. The user made a successfull mix of 0.7 BTC
2. He created another mixing session to clean more bitcoins
3. He sent 1.8 BTC somewhere, but not to us. The address in the mix page has not received any funds.

We are very sorry for the person who list her bitcoins due to sending them somewhere, but cannot do anything.
Other than that we have a lot of happy customers and the mixer always works fine.
Regarding the communication with the customer: We are not willing to help him anymore in tracking down his funds, since he sent us death threats.

We ask you kindly to put up the posts on your website again and remove the scam accusations since they are not true and damage our brand.”

Key part of the scam attempt:

Quote
“He sent 1.8 BTC somewhere, but not to us. The address in the mix page has not received any funds.”

And thus we arrive at the scammer's MONUMENTAL ERROR: 
When the scammer sent the user's BTC from 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj in Tx #1,
he unequivocally identified himself as the owner of that address.   
3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj is where the user sent BTC to initiate Tx #2.

Incidentally, the webmaster utterly rebuffed the scammer’s request:

Quote
“Here are direct links to the relevant Txs on the BTC blockchain:

1) Tx showing SmartMix.io ownership of address, 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj4
https://blockchain.info/tx/51a67b7d3a4593df246969004e75d70f307f043275afb0b8ea205c3397216a33

2) Tx showing SmartMix.io's address, 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj4, received BTC from user.
https://blockchain.info/tx/50135c1e012202f60ac414faebeec8a1a138589fa1bbf86c7d40cad0922790d1

3) User's specified output address shows balance of zero - i.e. user did not receive BTC (mixed or not) from SmartMix.io.
https://blockchain.info/address/1DFnmz26X4c3gBtpbgwz2HRJHkCqJfRuh1

Tx #2 (above) shows conclusively that you received 1.8620081 BTC, but you did not mix those BTC and send them to the user's specified address.  

Webmaster also noted: 
Quote
“And despite your excuse, this is not the first time that this has happened.”

Webmaster is correct... see links below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.msg40602386#msg40602386
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.msg32960872#msg32960872
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.msg36160019#msg36160019
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.0

Next up: Alert the writer of "Top 5 Bitcoin Tumbler Services 2018" where SmartMix.io is listed as #1 and ask, "WTF?!?!?"


6  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: June 27, 2018, 10:32:11 AM
SmartMix.io is a scam - Evidence, Part 1

User received an email request for evidence supporting the claim that SmartMix.io is a scam.

The user responded as follows:



Some peripheral supporting evidence can be found here:

1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.msg40602386#msg40602386
2) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.msg32960872#msg32960872
3) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.msg36160019#msg36160019


Concrete evidence is shown in attached .pdf showing screenshots of two recent Txs with SmartMix.io.  
1) The first Tx did not end in the theft of the user's BTC, but is pertinent in that it shows an address owned by SmartMix.io.  
2) The 2nd Tx resulted in the user's BTC being stolen.  

Viewing the Tx via blockchain.info, one can clearly see that the user sent BTC to SmartMix.io's address.  One can further see that the BTC was not mixed, nor was BTC sent back to the user's specified address.

SmartMix.io has failed to respond to any communication via their website support contact form at https://smartmix.io/support or emails sent to smartmix@gmx.net.

Thus it can be confirmed that SmartMix.io received BTC and failed to send BTC back to the user.

Here are direct links to the relevant Txs on the BTC blockchain:

1) Tx showing SmartMix.io ownership of address, 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj4
https://blockchain.info/tx/51a67b7d3a4593df246969004e75d70f307f043275afb0b8ea205c3397216a33

2) Tx showing SmartMix.io's address, 3PVFJCMNti7kY4fxZ3nnwALX4qTS6xsoj4, received BTC from user.
https://blockchain.info/tx/50135c1e012202f60ac414faebeec8a1a138589fa1bbf86c7d40cad0922790d1

3) User's specified output address shows balance of zero - i.e. user did not receive BTC (mixed or not) from SmartMix.io.
https://blockchain.info/address/1DFnmz26X4c3gBtpbgwz2HRJHkCqJfRuh1

Of course, feel free to try to contact SmartMix.io and obtain his side of the story, if he has one.  

Simple question for him to answer:  Tx #2 (above) shows conclusively that you received 1.8620081 BTC, but you did not mix those BTC and send them to the user's specified address.  User claims that you have also failed to respond to any of her communication attempts.  Why?

If you have any further questions, I'll try to answer them.  Email me.



The .pdf mentioned can be found here.   It consists of annotated screen shots that step through the two transactions discussed above.


7  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: June 27, 2018, 08:38:23 AM
Hi,

I am not familiar with your list or website, but I presume it aims to promote reputable mixing services. 
 
SmartMix.io is a scam.

A few days ago, I sent one blog webmaster undeniable proof that Smartmix.io is a scam.
The webmaster was quickly convinced that SmartMix.io was in fact a scam, pulled several articles that promoted Smartmix.io from their site and immediately published
the following scam alert:

https://www.cryptocoinupdates.com/scam-alert-smartmix-io-is-a-confirmed-scam/

If you are still unsure about Smartmix.io, I will gladly email you the evidence for your review so you can clean up your list.

My goal is to thoroughly expose Smartmix.io and completely bury the service.

Thanks.


Yes please, if you have an undeniable proof can you post it here for everyone to see? If it"s needed I will, of course, update the list and remove the site. Thanks

OK.  I have limited time for the next few days, so I will publish this in parts, hopefully at least one part per day:
 
Part 1 will provide the essential evidence that proves SmartMix.io stole BTC.   
Part 2 will describe the scammer's modus operandi and how he fucked up in this instance
Part 3 will show how the scammer has responded to being exposed

Part 1 comes next.
8  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: June 27, 2018, 08:17:27 AM
My goal is to thoroughly expose Smartmix.io and completely bury the service.
Then just post your evidence. I've checked your article and you didn't say anything about why SmartMix is a scam.

Who is going to believe in you? If you want to bury the service, then you need to publicly expose them.

Hmmm. 

I haven't written any articles, nor did I say that I did.
I haven't asked anyone to believe in me.
And I question your assertion that I need to "publicly expose them" to bury their service.

Having said that, I do appreciate that your response does convey that you are interested in the evidence I offered to provide.

I will post it.

Please read carefully, OK?
9  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: June 26, 2018, 09:22:32 AM
Hi,

I am not familiar with your list or website, but I presume it aims to promote reputable mixing services. 
 
SmartMix.io is a scam.

A few days ago, I sent one blog webmaster undeniable proof that Smartmix.io is a scam.
The webmaster was quickly convinced that SmartMix.io was in fact a scam, pulled several articles that promoted Smartmix.io from their site and immediately published
the following scam alert:

https://www.cryptocoinupdates.com/scam-alert-smartmix-io-is-a-confirmed-scam/

If you are still unsure about Smartmix.io, I will gladly email you the evidence for your review so you can clean up your list.

My goal is to thoroughly expose Smartmix.io and completely bury the service.

Thanks.
10  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Anonymize your Bitcoin Transactions the Smart Way on: June 21, 2018, 08:31:21 AM
SmartMix.io == TOTAL SCAM.... STAY AWAY.

Scammer allows user's first Tx to go through.... Then steals user's BTC on subsequent Tx.

User's first Tx will typically be a small amount to test the service to see if it's a scam.  The SmartMix.io scammer processes the small test Txs to make the service appear legit, but then steals the BTC sent via any subsequent Tx, which is typically larger than the initial test Tx.  Scammer ignores all contact attempts.  Support form on website is meaningless.

SmartMix.io is a COMPLETE SCAM.  STAY AWAY.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LTC round 2 begins? on: April 20, 2017, 05:02:25 PM
How do you like my perfect timing ...
...before April 19 when BTC will begin its decline by -30% ...

Thumb on bitcoin's pulse? hardly... Grin
12  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculation Rule: sell when others are irrationally optimistic or too exuberant on: April 13, 2017, 06:16:56 AM
"I am ROTFLMAO that you the egotist who just doesn't get the meaning of what you quote:"

I get it. 

In the context of your egoic attraction to Eric's blog post http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1404...
and in the context of my question to you:

when will you publish your white paper?

Your paper should clarify whether you are super-capable or incapable, as inferred from what I quoted from Eric's blog post:  "egotism is a disease of the incapable, and vanishes or nearly vanishes among the super-capable."


Re: ego

ego = mind-made sense of self that arises with the identification with thought.

Perhaps you'll find this helpful...  https://youtu.be/91qL76UMNWQ

13  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculation Rule: sell when others are irrationally optimistic or too exuberant on: April 13, 2017, 02:51:19 AM
"egotism is a disease of the incapable, and vanishes or nearly vanishes among the super-capable." - ESR

The volumes of discourse you've left here thus far teem with egotism. 
Is it the deterioration of your physical health that allows your ego to get the best of you?
Are you incapable or super-capable?

Those are rhetorical...

The one question I have for you:  when will you publish your white paper?   
14  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: [SOCAL] Southern California Meetups on: July 16, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
Hey Ursay, do you still have bitcoin you want to sell?
15  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: June 28, 2013, 09:48:17 PM
<<The other big issue is they continue to mislead people into believing the site is fixed and operating correctly when obviously there is still alot of problems. If they are picking and choosing which problems to fix, this affects those of us who have been waiting the longest>>

Perhaps they feign technical problems, web site issues, software glitches, partner delinquencies, high transaction volumes, office moves and critical upgrades as dilatory tactics to delay customer orders at the current low price, as they wait for the price of bitcoin to go up?

Of course, this would mean that BitInstant operates under a conflict of interest with its customers, and makes a profit by selling bitcoins - which it is not licensed to do.  BitInstant's consistent, exceedingly high, and impossible transaction execution prices has raised many eyebrows.

If indeed BitInstant profits solely from its collection of transaction fees, then one would expect BitInstant to be taking orders by whatever means possible - pen and paper, if that's what it takes.   The higher demand when the price of bitcoin drops down into the 90's, where it is now, should mean $MONEY$ to BitInstant...  But alas, are they taking orders now???

look deeper for the truth...
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