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1  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: September 02, 2013, 05:03:15 PM
I am sorry to heare that you will stop selling to endusers Cry

But I think that is the best way for getting high quality products developed in hamburg - germany.
Because you can concentrate on getting the the new boards running and in production.
Can't wait for the new boards =)


Guys remember everything Burnin rufunds to you is a gift



This still isn't clear to me.

I don't understand, if Burnin isn't accepting orders and some people need refunds (but only at 50%), why not allow people (like me and others looking for assembly) the
ability to take on the orders from others? I think that makes us happy (we get the boards and assembly) and a few people get more than the 50% refund amount.

Burnin - Can you comment on things please as the message has been mixed thus far?

Thanks for all your work. I know this is rough for many, if not the majority, of people involved. From the GB participants, organizers and all the way up the chain to you.

It's About Sharing

from a producer point of view I can understand why he won't change adresses in orders:

Have you any idea how long it would take to change XXX Orders? Or have you considered the consequences if somthings mixes up with the order? We are not talking about parcel with value of less than 100€ we are talking about tousend or even tenthousends of euros.

from a coustomer point of view
I understand you - a possible solution is that you looking for a buyer (with Avalonchips) who lives in the same country and make a private deal with him. So you only have to worry about one adress. you have to pay one additional shipping cost

but beside the small amout of additional cost you get everything back and burnin gets his order - win win situation

@tranquille
He has done his work realy well Wink  everything he gives back is a gift...
2  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: July 24, 2013, 04:19:47 PM
Just for clarification:

The scope of supply of the watercoolerblocks is without fittings.

You can use any G1/4" fittings.


Sorry about the confusion. Wink

Congratulation Burnin for over 650 orders in such a short time.
3  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: July 14, 2013, 10:08:17 PM
I think you miss a LOT space with this design. If you would use a rack adapter you would build in way more miners. At the moment you maybe use 200mm, but colocation racks have space for 750mm depth. Much unused space.
The other thing is... why do you use 3U for PSU? ATX-PSU's are designed especially for 2HU Height. So one would pay for 1HU extra.
Yes we are aware of that Wink

To build a solid PSU Panel for 2HE it would have been double-angled wich almost means double-priced Cry and the Rasberry PI would not fit in between the PSUs.

The question is, what does the customer wants. These panels can be produced for a low price, they can be mounted into racks or even in shelves.


We also had the idea for a complete Case with 26 Boards and one PSU in 3HE but building a whole case is sadly to expensive. ~300€ per pice + ~600€ developement cost.
If we somebody order 1000 of them they would only cost <80€ each.


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in this demo setup you could also mount the PSU Unit and a BitBurner Unit in the front and two BitBurner Units in the back, half the height, same the fun Cheesy


but what i dont get: why are the plugs for the hoses in front of the Panel, that just makes no sense. Leave the Plugs inside, so you could connect the heatsinks from the units in the front easy with those in the back, if it stays like that it will be a pain in the ass to connect all those hoses.

next point: if you really are going for a datacenter you really should think about power supply redundancy.
you could also use one of those sweet 19" redundant 2kw psus like

http://business.fantec.eu/html/en/2/artId/__1128/gid/__2009020590/article.html

yes that is one way to do it to mount it from the front and from the back. We want these panels to be as modular as possible.

There is no place inside for the plugs @3HE.
You could either go for 4HE and mount the plugs where the Anfi-tec engraving is at the moment or go for bigger watercoolers so you would have the plugs between the power connectors. To connect one row of Boards is realy easy because you have enough space around the fittings

If you have another idea where to put the fittings please draw or explain it. We are always open for suggestions.

To go from the back to the front we could make some additional holes in the PSU panel

We are not going for big datacentres with these panels Wink
 
The redundant PSU is realy sweet  - But the price for the 2000w redundant PSU is 8 times as expensive (1600€ for 1700w) as a good PC PSU(100€ for 900w).

Keep in mind that nothing realy happends when the psu fails. Just connect a spare one and you are back in business. (sadly with some lost time).
I guess it would be better to have more miners than 30% less with redundant PSUs.

regards
[Anfi-tec] Finn
4  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: July 12, 2013, 10:43:47 AM
damn looks nice... But how do the boards attach onto the waterblock... 5 screws on each board, screwing onto the same location on the waterblock....

Also are the waterblock G 1/4 threads? Would love to use my own fittings...


Danny


Of course we use G 1/4" threads Wink

You will also be able to order the waterblocks over our homepage (anfi-tec.de) but then you have to pay twice the shipping cost and you have to attach the cooler yourself.

@schrankwand yes that is right. ~95% of the heat will be emit in the water.


About the radiator size:


When you use a tripple Radiator (3*120Fans)  you have round about ~0,025°C/w  = - that means per 100w the watertemperatur will rise 2,5°C.
If you use a Mora (or 3 Tripple radi) radiator you have round about ~0,008°C/w - that means per 100w the watertemperatur will rise 0,8°C.

here is a short upscaling example:

Tripple radi and 16 Boards @40w =640w -> 0,025°C/w * 640w = 16°C watertemperatur over Air Temperatur. with a 3 trippleradis = 5,3°C
Tripple radi and 16 Boards @80w =1280w -> 0,025°C/w * 1280w = 32°C watertemperatur over Air Temperatur. with 3 trippleradis = 10,6°C


no guarantee for these examples!


Regards Finn
5  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: July 11, 2013, 10:15:22 PM

Some spoilers from our side ^^



and for the dark side


The first watercooler Prototype arrived today at Burnin.
And onother one is to anodize blue(just like the Final version). We will post some pics here when this one is ready

We will produce them on demand! So make shure you order them (at Burnins shop) in the first 2 days after the Shop is online. We will do our best to have them ready as soon as possible!


Regards Finn
6  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: July 04, 2013, 11:34:49 AM
@Burnin

Greate news with the overclocking Smiley

####


Hey guys,

which power supply are you guys planing to use? Are there any favorites?

What about this Thermaltake?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001812

1475w @ 12V <-> 26 Boards @ 55watt


Are there any Experience with this high power supply for FPGAs? Or is it better to use 2 weaker PSUs?

How deep are your 19" Racks (32inch / 40inch) ? -  for the Users of the Si-System = 0,8/1m)

Thank you

Regards
Finn
7  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: July 01, 2013, 09:47:45 PM
do the chips really transfer more heat into the PCB than to the upper side?

Yes, they are designed this way. And you shouldnt put a heatsink on top. Yifu said this will have a negative effect instead.

Can anybody verify this?
On computer mainboards. (NB/SB , MOSFETS) or RAM you can cool with out problem from the top.

The differential temperature in one chip should be less than 1°C ... i can not image that this would have a negativ effect.

The only can explain the negativ effect throuhg wrong/to high mounting force. (so that the chip will break)

Regards
Finn 
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: July 01, 2013, 04:15:32 PM
Hello,
I am a member of a german watercooling company (all products are made in house)

anfi-tec.de
we are currently developing (for the user toolhead) a custom waterblock for the BitBurner XX Board for maximum overclocking performance combined with a high density--> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.980
9  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: miningrigs.com - deutscher Shop speziell für Miningrigs on: July 01, 2013, 03:58:01 PM
ist ja immer wieder spannend wenn alte threads aus versehen hoch geholt werden... könnte ein Mod diesen Thread schließen?
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Anybody Here Who Runs A Website Which Accepts Bitcoins? on: July 01, 2013, 03:47:04 PM
Maybe in the future we will make this possible in our watercooling-store.  Wink

but first we will develope a water cooler for "bitburner XX"
the idea is to increase the packing density and to enable problem-free overclocking the boards. Grin
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: bitburner XX -> watercooling -> overclock -> more bitcoins :D on: July 01, 2013, 03:29:39 PM
Hello everyone,

I also work for Anfi-tec and have some questions about the Avalon chips.
especially about the cooling conditions:

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do the chips really transfer more heat into the PCB than to the upper side?

Yes, they are designed this way. And you shouldnt put a heatsink on top. Yifu said this will have a negative effect instead.

Can anybody confirm this behavior to me?

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