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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: February 26, 2018, 09:00:34 PM
Technically speaking, you can purchase crypto from resources that do not require proof of age. These would be
BTC ATMs (there aren't that many, but if you can find one, this is your best bet).

Whether or not one needs to show ID depends on which country you live in and how the laws of that country regulate BTC ATMs. I have mentioned this before - In my country you cant buy from a bitcoin ATM unless you have ID and are over 18.
2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: February 26, 2018, 02:28:15 PM
Thanks for all the support and recommendations. Even the negative ones... I kind of deserve it. I am starting to get over the loss and move forward. Still balls deep into everything crypto though Smiley
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 30, 2017, 12:04:18 AM
Not trying to kick you while you're down or anything.  Just please don't go the shady route again.  Those guys could have just as easily been honest people, but unfortunately there are probably way more dishonest people than honest ones out there. 

I wish I would have thought of this before you got scammed, but you should have just bought hardware and got into gpu mining.  No age restrictions on mining into a pool and no age restrictions on setting up wallets.  Your investment would have been in the hardware, but you would be getting paid back for that investment in the coins that you mined.  You would have the coins you mined in your own cold storage and there are even some legit exchanges that don't require verification until you start doing high dollar amount trades.  I'm kicking myself for not suggesting that to you, because it's a decent way for someone under 18 to get into the crypto world, especially if they have tech knowledge.

Could you point to a few legit exchanges that dont require verification? Thanks.
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 29, 2017, 11:45:08 PM
If you are still a child and not yet a teenager, I suggest trading bitcoin in the care of your guardian, after all, all investments are risky.

I am a teenager and as I mentioned my situation with parents/guardian are not standard.

Didn't anyone try to talk you out of doing this?  Anyone could have seen that scam coming from a mile away, so I'm not sure why you didn't.  Hate that it happened to you, but damn man.  You have to be smart about stuff.

Yeah... Looking back I realize that now. I got excited about the tanking prices...
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 29, 2017, 10:36:25 AM
If you are still a child and not yet a teenager, I suggest trading bitcoin in the care of your guardian, after all, all investments are risky.

I am a teenager and as I mentioned my situation with parents/guardian are not standard.
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 26, 2017, 09:51:21 PM
I would probably go to police, but its pain and lots of time.+ Im not sure what they do when people are underage (would they call for parents to be present as well.? i have no idea)
Those scammers probably know very few people would go to police, so they count on it.

Yeah... The police will definitely get a adult involved. I dont want to go into detail here on why I dont want to involve my parents/guardians and why I would be in trouble. The net damage of going to the police might be higher than the gain.
7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 26, 2017, 09:15:31 PM
Sorry, man, that sucks. Your other option would be to hang around here and build your account up to participate in some airdrops of alts that you could swap to bitcoin.

Otherwise, I'd probably go with getting a gift card and trading it on localbitcoins or paxful - but they are rife with scammers as well.

If it makes you feel any better, about 6 years ago or so I was scammed out of 20 btc. Worth a whopping $80 at the time, lol. Oh, to have those back in my wallet...

How long did it take to get over the loss and get back on the horse?
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 26, 2017, 09:07:38 PM
ok,  did you try to contact them after that, to tell them nothing came to your wallet?

We communicated through facebook messenger. I blasted them on messenger till yesterday until a point when it looked like the account does not exist any more. I am contemplating about going to the police but that would also mean that I am in big trouble. Although the hotel had cameras I am pretty sure the probability of getting my money back is close to 0.
may i ask the amount? i dont know how it works in  your country, but here where I live its almost pointless to go to police if the amount is less than ~$500 equivalent in our local currency

3800.- Euros (Been saving it up for a while) I am sure the police would investigate and maybe even catch the guys but I am probably not the only one they have scammed and owe money to. If I had to guess they looked like they live a "fast" lifestyle and burn money quick. Usually in the end the police or the courts have nothing to confiscate.
9  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 26, 2017, 08:52:52 PM
ok,  did you try to contact them after that, to tell them nothing came to your wallet?

We communicated through facebook messenger. I blasted them on messenger till yesterday until a point when it looked like the account does not exist any more. I am contemplating about going to the police but that would also mean that I am in big trouble. Although the hotel had cameras I am pretty sure the probability of getting my money back is close to 0.
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 26, 2017, 08:41:43 PM
sorry to hear that. I was scammed many times when i started with bitcoin, i know that feeling :/

did you try to look up that transaction on block explorer? do you know how high was the transaction fee they set?

I thought about that but since they probably never made the payment I have nothing to look up. I have pretty much nothing. No wallet ID, no transaction ID.
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 26, 2017, 08:25:53 PM
I got scammed.

But first, let me start from the beginning. Since most of the people recommended getting a parent/guardian or a person who is over 18 involved I manned up and approached the only adult I knew who might be ok with helping me out. My pitch went well and he was cool with the idea. We began the process of setting up a account on his name on Coinbase. I had no idea it was such a painstaking process, hence I had told him that it will be quick. I felt bad... I looked like I had not thought this process through and I was misleading. It took us about 2 hours to get to a point where Coinbase asked him to make a 8 second video of himself holding up his credit card to his face and read a script. I could tell he was not comfortable with it and I was not comfortable with it also. We tried Kraken also, but it soon became evident that we would end up in the same spot. Anyway... I looked like I did not know what I was doing so I had to apologize and abort the whole plan. I was frustrated. Bollocks.

Then became friday (22.12). When I got up I saw that bitcoins and all the altcoins were tanking. I got excited. This was my chance! A great time to buy and to get on board. Against all of the recommendations and my own better judgement I decided to find a local dealer and opt for a face-to-face deal. I found one on facebook and we set up a meeting in a hotel lobby. It was a 2 hour adventure for me to get to the hotel. There was two guys waiting for me. I introduced myself, we shook hands and started with the business. One guy scanned my QR code with his Ipad and told me to hand over the cash. I did. It looked like he had sent the bitcoins my way. They said that due to heavy traffic the transaction time was 30min to 1h (I had also read about long transaction times and it sounded logical). I made the mistake of not demanding that we wait together for the transfer to hit my wallet before I handed over my money. I asked if they could wait with me but they refused. My pleading did not work. They left.

Since the whole deal was pretty intense for me I sat there looking into infinity for the next 5 minutes. I started my journey back home refreshing my wallet every 30 seconds. By the time I was home it was clear there was no payment coming. I was and still am mortified.

Looking back they looked tense. It looked like one guy was telling the other guy what to do. It did not feel right, but I felt like I was already in too deep to abort... Maybe they would get pissed if I told them that I changed my mind. Also everything happened pretty quickly.
12  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 18, 2017, 06:12:36 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions. There are some expensive options with a few places with high fees but I guess I have no choice. I will give an update on how things went down.
13  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 16, 2017, 03:57:51 PM
It's pretty hard to get into bitcoin as a teenager but it's not impossible. I will have to say this, the options I'm about to mention are not really ideal they will charge a lot of fees or you are not buying bitcoin at a market rate (slightly higher). So what you first of all can do is head over to purse.io and start doing orders. What purse does is that it allows people who are looking to buy things on Amazon with bitcoin. The two downsides of this is that you're buying above market rate and you will have to wait a couple of days until the parcel has arrived before you get your bitcoins. But except that it's great for underage people. The second site you could use is virwox. Thus site allows you to instantly buy bitcoin via PayPal or another payment method they accept. The downside of this is that they charge a lot of fees and you can only buy a certain amount every single day. Hope this helps.

Thanks will look into the options. Did you mean virwox.com or viewox?
Yes it's virwox that was a little typo on my behalf but it's fixed now. Good luck with the two sites I recommended, you should be at risk using either of them. Just make sure your guardian is aware of what you're doing and never spend more money than you can afford to lose.

Im going all in.         Ok just kidding.
14  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 16, 2017, 08:19:05 AM
It's pretty hard to get into bitcoin as a teenager but it's not impossible. I will have to say this, the options I'm about to mention are not really ideal they will charge a lot of fees or you are not buying bitcoin at a market rate (slightly higher). So what you first of all can do is head over to purse.io and start doing orders. What purse does is that it allows people who are looking to buy things on Amazon with bitcoin. The two downsides of this is that you're buying above market rate and you will have to wait a couple of days until the parcel has arrived before you get your bitcoins. But except that it's great for underage people. The second site you could use is viewox. Thus site allows you to instantly buy bitcoin via PayPal or another payment method they accept. The downside of this is that they charge a lot of fees and you can only buy a certain amount every single day. Hope this helps.

Thanks will look into the options. Did you mean virwox.com or viewox?
15  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 16, 2017, 07:36:15 AM
Thanks for the reply`s all! Asking my guardian is out of the question. To do a face-to-face buy/sell I would have to travel quite a bit. I did try to buy from a facebook group but had to abort. Looking back I am 90% shore I almost got scammed. Decent sellers with high reputation want to see ID even through facebook. There is a bitcoin ATM in a nearby city but it is located in a pawnshop and one would need ID before using it. Any other ideas?
16  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 16, 2017, 07:19:11 AM
Have your parents help you.

Thanks for the reply but asking my parents is out of the question.
17  Other / Beginners & Help / I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 15, 2017, 10:30:31 PM
Hi, Does anyone here have any experience of overcoming this issue. The amount I want to park in bitcoin and maybe other altcoins is not big but also not small.

Help a kid out!
18  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-29] How to Buy Bitcoin When Underage on: December 15, 2017, 10:12:42 PM
Yeah. My parents are also out of the question. Also the other ideas proposed here do not work in my case. The amount I want to park in bitcoins and maybe other altcoins is not big but also not small.
19  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-29] How to Buy Bitcoin When Underage on: December 15, 2017, 05:14:49 PM
I am underage and have extreme difficulty buying bitcoin. There is a bitcoin ATM in the city where I live but it is in a pawnshop and they need to check the persons ID before using the ATM and one has to be at least 18. Bollocks.
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