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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Moolah Scam on Mintpal - Reporting Missing Coins on: November 22, 2017, 04:54:22 AM
Those who received this e-mail, did you reach out to police via your e-mail address before? I am trying to understand why I have not received this e-mail, while I have received print letters from liquidation lawyers.

Anyone with Mintpal account here who has NOT received this e-mail yet as of October 21st?

ME too
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Moolah Scam on Mintpal - MintpalJustice.com - Report Missing Funds on: November 22, 2017, 04:47:37 AM
I lost 49.5 BTC on mintpal.com, it seems hopeless to get them back.


I want my BTC back,  this is a lot of money today.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Moolah Scam on Mintpal - MintpalJustice.com - Report Missing Funds on: November 18, 2014, 02:42:37 AM
I lost 49.5 BTC on mintpal.com, it seems hopeless to get them back.
4  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 31, 2014, 10:04:44 AM
真能做出来机器人,还差这点钱吗?
机器人的操作和套利是能稳定价格的。这个可以有!

你是懂行的,感谢支持。

看看

感谢关注
5  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 31, 2014, 10:04:03 AM
真能做出来机器人,还差这点钱吗?

真能做出来机器人,还差这点钱吗?
同问?

算法交易有局限性,不可能闭眼挣大钱,但能对人进行有效辅助。

大户操盘需要有较大资金量,而且风险很大,我们没这么大的资金量,也不懂得操盘。

套利需要大资金量才能有长期收益,我们没这么大的资金。

另外,交易所的成交量有限,大的资金量会引起盘面波动大,不一定能挣到可观的比例。

以上几个条件注定算法软件不是神,只是有效辅助,大势还得靠人决定。

因而我们只卖软件,无炒作和操盘风险。

6  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 31, 2014, 06:32:01 AM
这个可以关注

感谢关注 !

各位请记住:“你还没给钱时你是大爷,你给了钱之后对方就是大爷!”

言尽于此
至理名言,顶一个 Grin  太多人还是too young too simple


感谢关注 !

这些功能,一个三线业余程序员,最多三天就能写出来比你这还要灵活的东西,还用IPO?Huh创业想疯了吧
github上一堆代码量是你N倍的成熟的机器人开源项目,回测,多交易所支持,等等,有python的,有nodejs的,各色各样的,不要意淫似的闭门造车,你的这玩意儿用户基本上是小白,MT4这样牛B的强大的东西,就你们几个人,做个两年也比不上,也是免费的,我写了三年的EA策略,事实证明,能拿出来卖的策略,都是坑人的。华尔街不是靠EA支撑的,好策略远比一个机器人项目有价值,没有愿意share一个能赚钱的EA的。


准确。


感谢关注 !
IPO有两方面的意义
一方面所得的BTC用于团队的炒币。别一方面卖给别人挣钱。朋友介绍朋友买的情况比较多吧。


感谢关注 !


我认为没前景,长期看无论什么机器人都无法战胜市场

如果参考美国期货和股市的情况,机器人的使用特别是给基金带来了较大的收益,因而美国有比较多比较强的做高频交易和套利的公司

有可能这种情况可以应用到虚拟货币领域。
7  Economy / Securities / Re: [IPO][Open source robot: btcrobot]Trading Robot CoinzBot IPO Plan on: May 31, 2014, 01:03:01 AM
The customer base you are seeking is not that large. Many people do not want / will not pay a large fee to use a robot trader. Most BTC users don't trade BTC enough for it to be worthwhile.

Not to mention there are several other business's already doing this, and are established with low price points. Goodluck selling 8000 bots at .25BTC. Thats not break even. Thats 2000 BTC revenue. Why do you need to hire 8-10 programmers? Your idea is basically to take something thats free, tweak it slightly. Your valuation is even more insane than HeatherAI who created a custom made bot thats already been built for 10 exchanges. They are valuing themselves at 500 BTC

If you think Im wrong, put your money where your mouth is and Il wager 10BTC that you dont even attain revenue of 500BTC within 1 year. And if you are thinking long term your even more insane, BTC is very volatile and high risk, and a longer term investment is purely a gamble, and as such you should undervalue your business if you intend to do that


Thank you for your advice.

(1) Do you have any investigation into the targeted customers ? If not, I wonder, what make you so sure about the market capacity ?

(2) Our bussiness model is to develop a product that is very easy to use than other products, and trading policy research will be performed.

A product is very different from a program, and we think CoinzBot should be different from other products, so we need a team to research, programming, testing , supporting and so on.

(3) We do think that trading bot will have its market position, the situation of trading bot now can't explain its future. We do have faith on the future of cryptocurrency.

(4) Anyway, thank you for your warning, "you should undervalue your business if you intend to do that", we will think about it carefully.
8  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 30, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
这些功能,一个三线业余程序员,最多三天就能写出来比你这还要灵活的东西,还用IPO?Huh创业想疯了吧
github上一堆代码量是你N倍的成熟的机器人开源项目,回测,多交易所支持,等等,有python的,有nodejs的,各色各样的,不要意淫似的闭门造车,你的这玩意儿用户基本上是小白,MT4这样牛B的强大的东西,就你们几个人,做个两年也比不上,也是免费的,我写了三年的EA策略,事实证明,能拿出来卖的策略,都是坑人的。华尔街不是靠EA支撑的,好策略远比一个机器人项目有价值,没有愿意share一个能赚钱的EA的。

各有各的用途,MT4有MT4的用途,专业性软件也有专业性软件的市场,GITHUB上的东东是有,但那是产品吗?易用性就是一个大问题。谁都不是程序员,谁都能编译能配置的。

真正普通用户要用的东东,应该是非常简单的,一上手就会的。

你说有了免费的LINUX,为什么大家都要用WINDOWS呢,不就是方便易用吗?

你的水平很高,但是不代表其他用户的使用水平也一样高的。

不管怎么样,谢谢批评和指正。

不支持机器人,这是吸散户的血,伤害投资者的利益,损害市场。

这位应该是有误解吧,机器人的操作和套利是能稳定价格的。
9  Economy / Securities / Re: [IPO][Open source robot: btcrobot]Trading Robot CoinzBot IPO Plan on: May 30, 2014, 03:38:11 PM
This is not worth 2000BTC

market is saturated, goodluck getting 2000BTC in just revenue nevermind profits

The CoinzBot Commercial Version is to be developed along the directions of: algorithmic trading, large volume transactions, and multi-exchange automatical arbitraging.

We think there are many people have one of or two of these requirements. Coinzbot may help them a lot.

(1) We target holders of large quantities of virtual coins, or professional traders. We help them automate the process of issuing orders, and limit losses and wins. We help them save time and generate more profit.

(2) We also target part-time virtual coin traders. Such users cannot monitor the market around the clock. Our trading software allows them to take advantage of all the trading opportunities.

(3) We further target virtual coin miners with limited computing power. They face increasing difficulties in the mining business, and can use our software to generate additional income to complement their mining income, all the while incurring much lower cost.

(4) Finally we target the arbitragers, who mostly have to execute multiple orders at different exchanges to make a profit. Our software eliminates the risk of price movement by identifying arbitrage opportunities and executing orders at a much faster speed.
10  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 30, 2014, 12:33:12 PM
3.1商业版
Commercial Version

商业版的发展方向是:算法交易、大户操盘、多交易所自动化套利。



2个问题:

1.有这样的神器,干嘛不自己套利?
2.大家都用神器,套谁去?

就像矿机厂商一样,为什么都卖出矿机,自己挖不行吗?

套利是能挣点小钱的,但是大家都在套利,挣的钱就少。你要挣钱多,就必须有大资金投入,不是每个人都投得起。

算法交易,有自己的局限性,这些局限性已经在计划中说明了。

另外,也有市场深度的问题,再好的算法,因为市场深度有限,不可能进行大额交易,否则会引起价格较大变化,抵消了利润,还是挣不到钱。

因而计划中说到,算法交易能够帮人止损止赢、分单阶梯买入卖出、在多交易平台多币种多帐户操作,我们觉得能够做到这些,就已经是很有价值了。
11  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 30, 2014, 12:26:54 PM
各位请记住:“你还没给钱时你是大爷,你给了钱之后对方就是大爷!”

言尽于此

理解,感谢关注
12  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 30, 2014, 11:35:23 AM
再也不会参与任何IPO项目的人路过了!

理解,感谢关注。
13  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 30, 2014, 11:24:02 AM
就冲着这么多字,好像是认真的啊

感谢肯定,那是一定要认真的。
14  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 30, 2014, 10:04:33 AM
文章这么长 都不想仔细看了

呵呵,IPO文档,不详细不行啊。

good

感谢 !


能看出来是国人搞的项目么?
高频交易对手痒按捺不住的人有一定需要,对散户无大意义。也有浮亏的可能。

是国人搞的,没错,呵呵。
15  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 30, 2014, 10:03:41 AM
去年开始就有人在用自动挂单的软件了,你现在才来IPO做软件,是不是迟了点

应该不会迟吧,只要还有人用。毕竟btcrobot已经有一定的名声了。
16  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划 on: May 30, 2014, 08:42:10 AM
BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO计划
BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO Plan

一、Btcrobot & CoinzBot是什么?
What are Btcrobot & CoinzBot?


Btcrobot是一个开源的、非常优秀的BTC/LTC算法交易软件,用go语言编写,网址:https://github.com/philsong/btcrobot 。CoinzBot是Btcrobot商业化产品名称。
Btcrobot is an open source, highly acclaimed BTC/LTC algorithmic trading software. It is implemented with the GO language, and has its official repository located at https://github.com/philsong/btcrobot. CoinzBot is commercial product name of Btcrobot.

Btcrobot能在OKCOIN、HUOBI上按照预定算法,自动买入和卖出BTC/LTC,支持的基础交易算法有:MA、EMA、MACD、KDJ等。
The Btcrobot software today is able to integrate with a number of exchanges (OKCOIN, HUOBI), and automatically buy and sell based in pre-determined algorithms and parameters. The base algorithms supported include MA, EMA, MACD, KDJ etc.

目前有很多比特币和莱特币玩家使用它来获利,许多程序员基于此开源软件开始做自己的交易策略。
There are a number of BTC and LTC enthusiasts using this software to make a steady profit. There are also programmers who are developing customized trading algorithms.

二、CoinzBot IPO的目的
The Goal of the CoinzBot IPO


本项目并非只是一个思路和想法,Btcrobot已经是一个比较成熟和稳定的开源软件,目前处于产品化后期、商业化前期。
This project is beyond just an idea or a direction. Btcrobot is a mature and stable software. Currently we are planning for its final go-to-market and commercialization.

CoinzBot项目将启动 IPO计划,筹集的资金用于以下工作:
The CoinzBot IPO plan aims to raise money for the following efforts:

(1) 继续开发免费的、开源的Btcrobot版本;
Continue to develop the free open source version Btcrobot.

(2) 组建开发和运营团队,开始专业化运营;
   Expand the development and operations team, start a commercial operation around the software.

(3) 开发商业版本CoinzBot,出售软件和服务来获利;
   Build a commercial version of the software named CoinzBot, market the software and related services for profit.

(4) 研究更可行的交易算法,以出售独立的交易算法模块获利。
   Develop additional trading algorithms with more advanced strategies, market individual algorithm modules.

三、CoinzBot商业计划
CoinzBot Business Plan


3.1商业版
Commercial Version

商业版的发展方向是:算法交易、大户操盘、多交易所自动化套利。
The CoinzBot Commercial Version is to be developed along the directions of: algorithmic trading, large volume transactions, and multi-exchange automation arbitrage.

商业版将逐步实现以下功能:
The commercial version will gradually cover the following functionalities.

(1) 界面重新设计,推出多语言版本,如英文版;
   Redesign of the user interface, with multiple-language support, such as English.

(2) 支持更多的交易所如btc-e.com,bitstamp.net;
   Support additional exchanges, such as btc-e.com, bitstamp.net.

(3) 支持更多的虚拟币和交易指标;
   Support additional virtual currencies and trading algorithms.

(4) 更强大的操盘功能:手动实时(定价/市价/阶梯)下单、计划(止损/止赢,定价/市价/阶梯)下单;
   More powerful trading capabilities: manual real-time trading (limit orders, market orders, stepping orders) and automatic trading (limit-loss, limit-win, limit orders, market orders, stepping orders)

(5) 更多更精准的机器交易策略,实现交易策略API接口;
   Additional precision trading algorithms, implement API for trading strategies.

(6) 市场深度检测,仓位控制;
   Market depth awareness, portfolio position analysis and control.
(7) 多交易所套利,利用多个交易所的差价来自动买卖;

   Multi-exchange arbitrage, with automatic trading from different exchanges if significant price differences are detected.
(Cool 多用户多交易策略支持。

   Supporting multi-user multiple-strategy trading.

3.2算法交易的价值
The Value of Algorithmic Trading


算法交易(Algorithmic Trading)是指以一定的技术指标为依据,事先设计好交易策略,然后将其编制成计算机程序。利用计算机程序算法来判断买入点和卖出点,决定下单的时机、价格和数量等。
Algorithmic Trading is the practice of designing trading strategies based on technical indicators, and implements such strategies with computer software, which applies the various algorithms and carries out the trades by deciding the buy/sell operation, time, price and quantity, etc.

它给人们带来的好处有:
The advantages include:


(1) 下单时大单分拆为许多小单,减小冲击成本;
Large orders can be split into small orders, avoiding to move the market.

(2) 在突涨时更容易买入,在突跌时更容易卖出;
Easier execution when there is a sudden surge or drop of the prices.

(3) 理性止损和止赢;
Rational decisions to limit losses and to limit wins.

(4) 同时操作许多帐户;
Simultaneous trading through multiple accounts.

(5) 全自动操作,无需人们长时间盯盘。
Fully automated operation, no need for constant monitoring of the market by a human being.

它也有一些弱点:
There are a number of disadvantages as well.


(1) 某种交易策略一旦被许多人使用,就会产生共振效应。许多机器人会在同一点买入,使得买入价格变高,或者无法买。
When a certain strategy becomes widely used, the effectiveness will be diminished. Many trading parties will be executing the same trades, making trades difficult or impossible.

(2) 假突破或假突跌时,会被欺骗;
A a breakout or a pullback may prove to be false or short-lived. In these situations the trading strategy may incur loses.

(3) 对大势无法准确判断,需要人工干预。
The overall trend of the market is not reflected into most trading strategies, manual interventions may be needed if related adjustments are desired.
总之,算法交易有较大的价值,但并非买了类似软件,就能闭眼挣大钱。机器的理性和人类的判断相结合,效果更好。

Algorithmic trading offers great advantages, but it is not a way to make money with your eyes completely blindfolded. The best result will be achieved through the careful combination of algorithmic trading and human judgments.

3.3目标客户群和本项目价值
Target Customers and Value of Our Project


(1) 虚拟币大户或职业玩家,帮助他们阶梯下单,自动止损/止赢,节省操作时间,获利更多;
We target holders of large quantities of virtual coins, or professional traders. We help them automate the process of issuing orders, and limit losses and wins. We help them save time and generate more profit.

(2) 兼职炒币者,他们没有太多时间,机器人交易使得他们不会错过交易时机;
We also target part-time virtual coin traders. Such users cannot monitor the market around the clock. Our trading software allows them to take advantage of all the trading opportunities.

(3) 小算力矿工,他们在矿机的军备竞赛中失败,本软件可以给他们一个类似于挖矿的挣钱机会,而且成本更低;
We further target virtual coin miners with limited computing power. They face increasing difficulties in the mining business, and can use our software to generate additional income to complement their mining income, all the while incurring much lower cost.

(4) 套利者,他们只能手工套利,速度慢且有风险,本软件在多个交易所中快速下单,使得套利没有风险。
Finally we target the arbitragers, who mostly have to execute multiple orders at different exchanges to make a profit. Our software eliminates the risk of price movement by identifying arbitrage opportunities and executing orders at a much faster speed.

3.4赢利模式
Business Model


(1) 销售软件,软件中包括了部分交易策略;
We plan to sell our software, which includes a number of built-in trading strategies.

(2) 销售特殊交易策略,特殊策略是指特制且限量销售的交易策略;
We further plan to sell advanced trading strategies individually, which are purposely built and we limit the number of licenses we sell on each of these advanced strategies.

(3) 与其他开发者合作,在网站上销售其他开发者的交易策略,收取佣金;
We will enable 3rd parties to develop additional strategies for our software, and sell these strategies on their behalf, earning a commission on each sale.

(4) 以独立交易服务器(VPS+CoinzBot)方式向用户提供整套的算法交易技术服务,用户仅需登录指定IP设定策略即可,无需安装和部署;
We will consider offering the service of self-contained “Trading Servers” to our users, which bundles a hosted virtual private server (VPS) and our CoinzBot software. This would be a turn-key solution for our users, who will be able to start trading immediately and not having to worry about installing and configuring software, etc.

(5) 自动交易,这仅作为软件测试的手段,并非主要赢利手段。
Finally we will run our own software to trade for our own account. This will not be a significant way for us to generate profit, but it is important for us to constantly use our own software for testing and quality assurance purpose on an end-to-end basis.

3.4项目人员
Project Team Members


(1) Philsong :首席程序员(Btcrobot开源软件开发者);11年C/C++开发经验,6年团队管理经验,2年GO语言开发经验。
Bitcointalk帐户: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=337473
Philsong: Lead Programmer (founding developer of the Btcrobot),11 years C/C++ development experiences, six years team management experiences, 2 years GO development experiences.
Bitcointalk account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=337473

(2) Eric: 项目运营、算法研究;13年C/C++开发经验和团队管理经验,目前在深圳大学读博士,研究方向是计算机网络和信息安全,论文主题是:加密货币的混币与反混币研究。
Bitcointalk帐户: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=144945
Eric: Project Operation and Algorithm Research, he has 13 years C/C++ development and management experiences, now he is a doctoral student of Shenzhen University from China, majoring in Computer network and information security. His thesis for the Doctorate is Research on coin-mixing and un-coin-mixing of Crypto-currency.
Bitcointalk account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=144945

(3) Steve :营销顾问;Steve 是在硅谷的资深技术高管,曾在 Cisco,Amazon.com 等五百强企业担任技术副总的职务,负责重要部门的技术和产品。还曾经就职于 Sun Micro, Oracle Inc. 等硅谷的高科技公司。
Steve: Sales and Marketing Consultant,Steve has been a veteran technologist iin the Silicon Valley, he has held senior executive positions with Fortune 500 companies such as Cisco and Amazon.com, responsible for technology and products in major divisions. He had also held technical positions with other hi-tech companies such as Sun Micro and Oracle, Inc.

(4) 其他成员:1个技术支持、1个C/C++程序员;
Other Members: 1 technical support person, 1 programmer in C/C++ language

(5) 计划招聘:8-10个GO/C/C++程序员。
Additional Hires: 8-10 programmers in GO/C/C++ languages.

3.5运营计划
Operations Plan


(1) 8-9月推出商业版,启动营销计划;
We plan to launch our commercial version around the August/September time frame in 2014. We will also launch our sales and marketing operation at the same time.

(2)10-11月股份可在股票交易所自由买卖(由董事会和股东投票决定是否上交易所);
We plan to make our shares tradable on virtual exchanges in the October/November time frame, subject to board and share holder approval.

(3) 9-12月推出一些特殊交易策略模块。
We plan to introduce the first batch of advanced trading strategy modules between September and December.
 
四、IPO计划
This IPO Plan


4.1发行股本
Shares Issuing Plan

(1) 本项目总股本2000股,公司持有1200股,占60%;IPO拟发行800股,占40%;
We have created 2,000 shares for this CoinzBot project. Existing project founders will be issued 1,200 shares (or 60%). We plan to make 800 shares available in the upcoming IPO.

(2) 800股,发行价格1B/股,筹集800B;
We plan an IPO price of 1 BTC per share, raising 800 BTC in funding for the project.

(3) 1-200股的股东将获得15%的返款,201-400股将获得10%的返款,401-600将获得5%的返款。即60B作为IPO营销费用,实际获得740B;
The purchasers of the first 200 shares will get a 15% rebate of their purchase price. The purchasers of the 201st and 400th shares will get a 10% rebate. The purchases of the 401th and 600th shares will get 5% rebate. This constitutes 60 BTC in the IPO sales cost. The project will receive a net proceed of 740 BTC at the end of the IPO process.

(4) 股本保值,我们把筹集资金的80%以比特币保存,另外20%以美金保存,需要资金时把比特币换成人民币、或把美金换成人民币。
We plan to keep 80% of the IPO proceeds in BTC, and the other 20% in fiat currencies as working capital. As the project proceeds, we will exchange the BTC funds into fit currencies on an as-needed basis.

4.2董事会
Board

    本项目设立董事会,负责本项目的重要决策。
We plan to operate this project using customary practices of operating a corporation. We plan to have a board to represent the interest of the share holders and make major decisions for the project.

(1) 公司股本占60%,占3个董事会席位,由IPO发起人出任;
The board shall have 5 seats, 3 of them will be designated by the founding members of this project.

(2) IPO股本占40%,占2个董事会席位;产生规则:在IPO中投资多于1%的两名股东各指定一名董事(可以是他们自己);如果还有剩余席位,则其余股东中股份最多的前5名各推荐一名董事候选人,再由股东选举出董事;
The shares sold through the IPO are called “floating shares”. Owners of the floating shares are entitled to appoint 2 members to the board using the following process: The two largest holders of floating shares can each appoint a board member (possibly the holders themselves) provided that such holders’ shares exceed 1% of total outstanding shares. If there are remaining board seat, the top 5 remaining floating shares owners can each appoint a board member candidate, and a vote of the floating share holders will determine the board members.

(3) 董事会按照超过50%的多数投票原则决策,如果2位IPO董事皆不同意,则公司董事有向IPO董事解释清楚运作的义务。
In general the board makes decisions by simple majority. If any decisions are made against the votes of the 2 board members appointed by the floating share owners, the board is to provide a good-faith explanation on the issues.

(4) 董事会议:董事会通过董事会议作决策,董事会成员可通过电话或实时聊天服务参加会议,保证每位董事成员都理解所讨论的内容,并且有效投票;董事会应保存每次会议的纪录,根据要求提供给占1%股份以上的股东的检查。
    Board Meeting. The board makes decision through board meetings, each of which is to be attended by board members. Board members can attend such meetings remotely through telephone or instant messaging services, provided that each board members is able to clearly hear (or otherwise understand) the issues being discussed, and be able to effectively cast votes on decisions. The board shall keep minutes of each meeting and make it available for inspection for all share holders of 1% of more shares, upon request.

4.3股东收益和权利
Shareholder Rights


(1) 选举权和被选举权,股东可选举新董事,也可被提名作为董事候选人;
A share holder can elect board members, and can also be elected as board members.

(2) 分红权,按照股份比例享受分红。商业版销售之后每月分红,净利20%留作运营资金,80%按照股份比例分红;
A share holder is entitled to dividend payout proportional to the shares. When the project starts to generate profits, we plan to declare a dividend every month. 20% of net profit will be kept by the project as working capital, the other 80% will be declared as dividend.

(3) 特殊策略优先购买权,特殊策略将限量销售,股东可优先购买特殊策略;
A share holder has priority in purchasing our software, especially advanced trading strategy modules, whenever there is a license quantity limit and/or waiting list.

(4) 购买优惠权,购买软件和特殊策略有7-8折优惠;
A share holder also enjoys a 20% to 30% discount on the purchase prices of our software modules.

(5) 知情权,每月获得项目收支报表;
A share holder is entitled to review the monthly financial statements of the project.

4.4董事权利和义务
Board Members Rights and Responsibilities


董事权利
Board Members Rights


(1) 董事享有股东的一切权利;
Board members have all rights of shareholders.

(2) 每季度以网络视频形式开一次董事会议,直接参与本项目的产品方向、营销模式决策;
Board members are to attend a board meeting once every quarter, possibly through a video/web/im conferencing arrangement. We make important decisions for the project in these meetings.

(3) 定期或不定期参与某些必要的临时决策过程;
Board members are to attend special board meetings when called upon, to make certain necessary and urgent decisions for the project.

(4) 购买软件和特殊策略有6-7折优惠;
Board members enjoy 30% to 40% discount when purchasing our software modules.

(5) 优先测试新交易策略
Board members enjoy priority for trial uses of our new trading strategies.

董事义务
Board Member Responsibilities


(1) 每季度按时参加董事会例会;
Attend regular board meeting on a quarterly basis.

(2) 未经董事会授权,不得擅自透露任何决策细节;
Keep project information in strict confidence, unless specifically authorized by the board to communicate certain limited information to outside parties.

(3) 不得利用以董事身份获得的信息来炒作本项目股票或股权;
Not to trade the floating shares or any derivative rights of this project based on inside information gained from board meetings.

(4) 违反以上义务的董事,将被取消董事资格,产生的空缺由股东另行选举;
Violation of rules above will result in the termination of board membership, as decided by a majority of board members. Vacated seats will be filled through special elections.

(5) 董事需收集来自大多数股东的意见,并且把它们汇总带到董事会。
Board members are to stay current with the desires and thinking of the share holders, and help represent their interest at board meetings.

4.5退出方式
Exit Methods


(1) 股份上交易所之前:IPO股份可自由买卖,但必须备案;
Floating shares can be traded freely post IPO, provided that such trading is properly recorded with the project.

(2) 股份上交易所之后:IPO股份可在交易所自由交易;
After we make our shares available on exchanges, the shares can be traded freely.

(3) 公司60%股份自IPO之日起,锁定一年,不以任何形式卖出。
The project founders’ 60% shares are to be locked up for 12 months after the IPO date. No sales of such shares shall take place during the lock-up period.

4.6信息披露、财务和分红
Information Disclosure on Finances and Dividends


(1) 本项目每月初向股东发送邮件,公开上个月的项目进展、资金、资产情况;
The project will send out a newsletter to all registered share holders at the beginning of every month, with information on project progress over the past month, and project balance sheet and income statement.

(2) 在紧急或重要情况下,本项目会向股东发送邮件,向股东披露重要信息或要求参加选举等;
In special situations, the project may contact all share holders for special information disclosure, and/or call for special elections.

(3) 分红:净利(收入-成本)20%留作运营资金,80%按照股份比例分红,每月初向股东发放。
The project will declare 80% of operating profit (if any,defined as revenue minus cost) as dividend at the beginning of every month, and issue to all share holders.

4.7股东可能面临的风险
Share Holder Risks


(1)项目组和IPO发起人不按承诺完成工作或恶意违约。Philsong做的开源软件Btcrobot,维护到现在,在开源社区有良好声誉。Eric以前运营过比特币套利基金(BAF),在出现亏损时,以IPO原价全部回购,避免股东损失。因而我们有理由相信IPO发起人信誉良好;
The project team members and IPO organizers may fail to fulfill their obligations. The project lead programmer “Btcrobot” enjoys a great reputation in the open source community and has long carried this project up to this date. The other team member Eric was the organizer of the Bitcoin Arbitrage Fund (BAF) with well kept records on bitcointalk.org. The BAF project incurred losses at the end, but Eric made sure every share holder was properly compensated according to the established rules and have not received a single complaint. We believe the project team carries excellent reputation.

(2)  软件无法销售出去,很少或者没有分红。目标客户群对此类软件的需求强烈,销售不出去的可能性不大,但是仍有可能;
Additional risk exists with the possibility that we will not be able to sell the software in enough qualities, or at all. So far we have seen great demand for such software and believe this to be a low risk, which nevertheless exists.

(3)  其他潜在风险。
Other unforeseen risks.

4.8终结和清算
Project Termination and Liquidation


遇到以下情况,本项目将终结
We plan to terminate this project in the following scenarios.

(1) 连续两年亏损;
We incur losses for two consecutive years.
(2) 不可抗力,让本项目无法继续执行。
Unforeseen factors causing our project not to be able to continue.

终结清算,IPO股票每股剩余价值计算方法:
Upon project termination, we use the following formula to calculate the value of each outstanding share.

(1) 当项目利润(=项目收入-项目成本)为正,IPO每股剩余价值=(筹集资金+(项目利润-已分红资金)*40%) /IPO股数;
If we have net profit of the project (defined as revenue minus cost) for the life of the project, every one of the floating shares is to be worth:
(IPO proceeds + (sales profit- dividend)* 40%) / floating shares

 (2) 当项目利润为负,IPO每股剩余价值=(筹集资金+项目利润-已分红资金)/IPO股数。
If the net sales profit above is negative, every one of the floating shares is to be worth:
(IPO proceeds + profit - dividend) / floating shares

然后把每股剩余价值按照IPO股数,分发给每个IPO股东,回购所有股票。
The project will repurchase each floating share at a price calculated above.

场景演示:
Demonstration Scheme:


本项目组筹集800B,IPO股数800股,项目中止后分以下两种不同情况计算IPO股东每股剩余价值。
We issues 800 BTC and 800 shares are raised in funding for the project. One day, the project has to be terminated. We calculate the value of every floating shares depended on two different situations.

(1)销售收入1300B,已分红640B,项目成本500B
Revenue 1300B, dividend 640B, cost 500B

IPO每股剩余价值=(800+(800-640)*40%)/800=864/800=1.08B
因而清算时,每股本可得到1.08B
The value of every floating share:
=(800+(800-640)*40%)/800=864/800=1.08B
So, every floating share will receive 1.08B.

IPO股东累计收益=1.08+640*0.4/800=1.48B
Shareholders’ total income = 1.08+640*0.4/800=1.48B

项目组累计分红=640*0.6=384B
Project founders will get 384B.

(2)销售收入500B,未分红,项目成本600B
Revenue 500B, dividend 0B, cost 600B

IPO每股剩余价值=(800-100)/800=700/800=0.875B
The value of every floating shares= (800-100)/800=700/800=0.875B

IPO股东累计收益=0.875B
Shareholders’ total income = 0.875B

项目组累计分红=0B
Project founders will get 0B.

从上述结果可知,项目组在赢利和亏损时中止项目,都得不到多少分红,只有把项目做好,才能从股份中得到最大回报,这就是项目组与IPO股东的共同利益所在。
It is obviously that the project team can’t make money unless they operate the project better and will be rewarded a lot from shares, that is the common interest of IPO shareholders’.

4.9再次IPO的可能性
Possible Secondary Offering


当同时满足以下几个条件时,我们有可能再次IPO
The project may conduct a secondary offering to issue additional shares, when the following conditions are met.

(1) 本项目产生了一些销售额;
The project is seeing some sales volume.

(2) 本项目有新的重要开发方向;
The project is seeing additional new direction of development.

(3) 董事会批准再次IPO计划。
The board has approved such secondary offering plan.

我们承诺:
The project team commits to the following:


(1) 再次IPO最早将发生在本次IPO半年后;
The secondary offering will not take place within 6 month of the IPO.

(2) 保护本次IPO股东的利益;
We make every effort to protect the interest of the floating share holders.

Btcrobot & CoinzBot 项目组
Btcrobot & CoinzBot Project Team

2014/5/30
17  Economy / Securities / [IPO][Open source robot: btcrobot]Trading Robot CoinzBot IPO Plan on: May 30, 2014, 07:55:32 AM
BTCRobot & CoinzBot IPO Plan

http://coinzbot.com

1. What are Btcrobot & CoinzBot?

Btcrobot is an open source, highly acclaimed BTC/LTC algorithmic trading software. It is implemented with the GO language, and has its official repository located at https://github.com/philsong/btcrobot. CoinzBot is commercial product name of Btcrobot.
The Btcrobot software today is able to integrate with a number of exchanges (OKCOIN, HUOBI), and automatically buy and sell based in pre-determined algorithms and parameters. The base algorithms supported include MA, EMA, MACD, KDJ, etc.
There are a number of BTC and LTC enthusiasts using this software to make a steady profit. There are also programmers who are developing customized trading algorithms.


2. The Goal of the CoinzBot IPO


This project is beyond just an idea or a direction. Btcrobot is a mature and stable software. Currently we are planning for its final go-to-market and commercialization.

The CoinzBot IPO plan aims to raise money for the following efforts:
(1)Continue to develop the free open source version Btcrobot.
(2)Expand the development and operations team, start a commercial operation around the software.
(3)Build a commercial version of the software named CoinzBot, market the software and related services for profit.
(4)Develop additional trading algorithms with more advanced strategies, market individual algorithm modules.

3. CoinzBot Business Plan

3.1 Commercial Version
The CoinzBot Commercial Version is to be developed along the directions of: algorithmic trading, large volume transactions, and multi-exchange automation arbitrage.

The commercial version will gradually cover the following functionalities.
(1) Redesign of the user interface, with multiple-language support, such as English.
(2) Support additional exchanges, such as btc-e.com, bitstamp.net.
(3) Support additional virtual currencies and trading algorithms.
(4) More powerful trading capabilities: manual real-time trading (limit orders, market orders, stepping orders) and automatic trading (limit-loss, limit-win, limit orders, market orders, stepping orders)
(5) Additional precision trading algorithms, implement API for trading strategies.
(6) Market depth awareness, portfolio position analysis and control.
(7) Multi-exchange arbitrage, with automatic trading from different exchanges if significant price differences are detected.
(Cool Supporting multi-user multiple-strategy trading.

The Value of Algorithmic Trading

Algorithmic Trading is the practice of designing trading strategies based on technical indicators, and implements such strategies with computer software, which applies the various algorithms and carries out the trades by deciding the buy/sell operation, time, price and quantity, etc.

The advantages include:

(1) Large orders can be split into small orders, avoiding to move the market.
(2) Easier execution when there is a sudden surge or drop of the prices.
(3) Rational decisions to limit losses and to limit wins.
(4) Simultaneous trading through multiple accounts.
(5) Fully automated operation, no need for constant monitoring of the market by a human being.

There are a number of disadvantages as well.

(1) When a certain strategy becomes widely used, the effectiveness will be diminished. Many trading parties will be executing the same trades, making trades difficult or impossible.
(2) A breakout or a pullback may prove to be false or short-lived. In these situations the trading strategy may incur loses.
(3) The overall trend of the market is not reflected into most trading strategies, manual interventions may be needed if related adjustments are desired.
Algorithmic trading offers great advantages, but it is not a way to make money with your eyes completely blindfolded. The best result will be achieved through the careful combination of algorithmic trading and human judgments.

3.2 Target Customers and Value of Our Project

(1) We target holders of large quantities of virtual coins, or professional traders. We help them automate the process of issuing orders, and limit losses and wins. We help them save time and generate more profit.
(2) We also target part-time virtual coin traders. Such users cannot monitor the market around the clock. Our trading software allows them to take advantage of all the trading opportunities.
(3) We further target virtual coin miners with limited computing power. They face increasing difficulties in the mining business, and can use our software to generate additional income to complement their mining income, all the while incurring much lower cost.
(4) Finally we target the arbitragers, who mostly have to execute multiple orders at different exchanges to make a profit. Our software eliminates the risk of price movement by identifying arbitrage opportunities and executing orders at a much faster speed.

3.3 Business Model

(1) We plan to sell our software, which includes a number of built-in trading strategies.
(2) We further plan to sell advanced trading strategies individually, which are purposely built and we limit the number of licenses we sell on each of these advanced strategies.
(3) We will enable 3rd parties to develop additional strategies for our software, and sell these strategies on their behalf, earning a commission on each sale.
(4) We will consider offering the service of self-contained “Trading Servers” to our users, which bundles a hosted virtual private server (VPS) and our CoinzBot software. This would be a turn-key solution for our users, who will be able to start trading immediately and not having to worry about installing and configuring software, etc.
(5) Finally we will run our own software to trade for our own account. This will not be a significant way for us to generate profit, but it is important for us to constantly use our own software for testing and quality assurance purpose on an end-to-end basis.

3.4 Project Team Members

(1) Philsong: Lead Programmer (founding developer of the Btcrobot and CoinzBot), 11 years C/C++ development experiences, six years team management experiences, 2 years GO development experiences.Bitcointalk account: Bitcointalk account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=337473
(2) Eric:Project Operation and Algorithm Research, he has 13 years C/C++ development and management experiences, now he is a doctoral student of Shenzhen University from China, majoring in Computer network and information security. His thesis for the Doctorate is Research on coin-mixing and un-coin-mixing of Crypto-currency. Bitcointalk account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=144945
(3) Steve:Sales and Marketing Consultant, Steve has been a veteran technologist iin the Silicon Valley, he has held senior executive positions with Fortune 500 companies such as Cisco and Amazon.com, responsible for technology and products in major divisions. He had also held technical positions with other hi-tech companies such as Sun Micro and Oracle, Inc.
(4) Other Members: 1 technical support person, 1 programmer in C/C++ language
(5) Additional Hires: 8-10 programmers in GO/C/C++ languages.

3.5 Operations Plan

(1) We plan to launch our commercial version around the August/September time frame in 2014. We will also launch our sales and marketing operation at the same time.
(2)We plan to make our shares tradable on virtual exchanges in the October/November time frame, subject to board and share holder approval.
(3) We plan to introduce the first batch of advanced trading strategy modules between September and December.

4. This IPO Plan

4.1 Shares Issuing Plan

(1) We have created 2,000 shares for this CoinzBot project. Existing project founders will be issued 1,200 shares (or 60%). We plan to make 800 shares available in the upcoming IPO.
(2) We plan an IPO price of 1 BTC per share, raising 800 BTC in funding for the project.
(3) The purchasers of the first 200 shares will get a 15% rebate of their purchase price. The purchasers of the 201st and 400th shares will get a 10% rebate. The purchases of the 401th and 600th shares will get 5% rebate. This constitutes 60 BTC in the IPO sales cost. The project will receive a net proceed of 740 BTC at the end of the IPO process.
(4) We plan to keep 80% of the IPO proceeds in BTC, and the other 20% in fiat currencies as working capital. As the project proceeds, we will exchange the BTC funds into fit currencies on an as-needed basis.

4.2 Board

    We plan to operate this project using customary practices of operating a corporation. We plan to have a board to represent the interest of the share holders and make major decisions for the project.

(1) The board shall have 5 seats, 3 of them will be designated by the founding members of this project.
(2) The shares sold through the IPO are called “floating shares”. Owners of the floating shares are entitled to appoint 2 members to the board using the following process: The two largest holders of floating shares can each appoint a board member (possibly the holders themselves) provided that such holders’ shares exceed 1% of total outstanding shares. If there are remaining board seat, the top 5 remaining floating shares owners can each appoint a board member candidate, and a vote of the floating share holders will determine the board members.
(3) In general the board makes decisions by simple majority. If any decisions are made against the votes of the 2 board members appointed by the floating share owners, the board is to provide a good-faith explanation on the issues.
(4) Board Meeting. The board makes decision through board meetings, each of which is to be attended by board members. Board members can attend such meetings remotely through telephone or instant messaging services, provided that each board members is able to clearly hear (or otherwise understand) the issues being discussed, and be able to effectively cast votes on decisions. The board shall keep minutes of each meeting and make it available for inspection for all share holders of 1% of more shares, upon request.

4.3 Shareholder Rights

(1) A share holder can elect board members, and can also be elected as board members.
(2) A share holder is entitled to dividend payout proportional to the shares. When the project starts to generate profits, we plan to declare a dividend every month. 20% of net profit will be kept by the project as working capital, the other 80% will be declared as dividend.
(3) A share holder has priority in purchasing our software, especially advanced trading strategy modules, whenever there is a license quantity limit and/or waiting list.
(4) A share holder also enjoys a 20% to 30% discount on the purchase prices of our software modules.
(5) A share holder is entitled to review the monthly financial statements of the project.

4.4 Board Members Rights and Responsibilities

Board Members Rights

(1) Board members have all rights of shareholders.
(2) Board members are to attend a board meeting once every quarter, possibly through a video/web/im conferencing arrangement. We make important decisions for the project in these meetings.
(3) Board members are to attend special board meetings when called upon, to make certain necessary and urgent decisions for the project.
(4) Board members enjoy 30% to 40% discount when purchasing our software modules.
(5) Board members enjoy priority for trial uses of our new trading strategies.

Board Member Responsibilities

(1) Attend regular board meeting on a quarterly basis.
(2) Keep project information in strict confidence, unless specifically authorized by the board to communicate certain limited information to outside parties.
(3) Not to trade the floating shares or any derivative rights of this project based on inside information gained from board meetings.
(4) Violation of rules above will result in the termination of board membership, as decided by a majority of board members. Vacated seats will be filled through special elections.
(5) Board members are to stay current with the desires and thinking of the share holders, and help represent their interest at board meetings.

4.5 Exit Methods

(1) Floating shares can be traded freely post IPO, provided that such trading is properly recorded with the project.
(2) After we make our shares available on exchanges, the shares can be traded freely.
(3) The project founders’ 60% shares are to be locked up for 12 months after the IPO date. No sales of such shares shall take place during the lock-up period.

4.6 Information Disclosure on Finances and Dividends

(1) The project will send out a newsletter to all registered share holders at the beginning of every month, with information on project progress over the past month, and project balance sheet and income statement.
(2) In special situations, the project may contact all share holders for special information disclosure, and/or call for special elections.
(3) The project will declare 80% of operating profit (if any,defined as revenue minus cost) as dividend at the beginning of every month, and issue to all share holders.

4.7 Share Holder Risks

(1) The project team members and IPO organizers may fail to fulfill their obligations. The project lead programmer “Btcrobot” enjoys a great reputation in the open source community and has long carried this project up to this date. The other team member Eric was the organizer of the Bitcoin Arbitrage Fund (BAF) with well kept records on bitcointalk.org. The BAF project incurred losses at the end, but Eric made sure every share holder was properly compensated according to the established rules and have not received a single complaint. We believe the project team carries excellent reputation.
(2)  Additional risk exists with the possibility that we will not be able to sell the software in enough qualities, or at all. So far we have seen great demand for such software and believe this to be a low risk, which nevertheless exists.
(3)  Other unforeseen risks.

4.8 Project Termination and Liquidation

We plan to terminate this project in the following scenarios.

(1) We incur losses for two consecutive years.
(2) Unforeseen factors causing our project not to be able to continue.

Upon project termination, we use the following formula to calculate the value of each outstanding share.

(1) If we have net profit of the project (defined as revenue minus cost) for the life of the project, every one of the floating shares is to be worth:
(IPO proceeds + (sales profit- dividend)* 40%) / floating shares
 (2) If the net sales profit above is negative, every one of the floating shares is to be worth:
(IPO proceeds + profit - dividend) / floating shares
The project will repurchase each floating share at a price calculated above.

Demonstration Scheme:

We issues 800 BTC and 800 shares are raised in funding for the project. One day, the project has to be terminated. We calculate the value of every floating shares depended on two different situations.

(1) Revenue 1300B, dividend 640B, cost 500B
The value of every floating share:
=(800+(800-640)*40%)/800=864/800=1.08B
So, every floating share will receive 1.08B.
Shareholders’ total income = 1.08+640*0.4/800=1.40B
Project founders will get 384B.

(2) Revenue 500B, dividend 0B, cost 1000B
The value of every floating shares= (800-100)/800=700/800=0.875B
Shareholders’ total income = 0.875B
Project founders will get 0B.

It is obviously that the project team can’t make money unless they operate the project better and will be rewarded a lot from shares, that is the common interest of IPO shareholders’.

4.9 Possible Secondary Offering

The project may conduct a secondary offering to issue additional shares, when the following conditions are met.
(1) The project is seeing some sales volume.
(2) The project is seeing additional new direction of development.
(3) The board has approved such secondary offering plan.

The project team commits to the following:
(1) The secondary offering will not take place within 6 month of the IPO.
(2) We make every effort to protect the interest of the floating share holders.

Btcrobot & CoinzBot Project Team
5/30/2014

18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Shenzhen Consensus in Bitcoin: the Industrial Chain Is in Need of Legal Supervis on: May 02, 2014, 02:35:23 AM
      
------- The second session of Guangzhou Shenzhen Bitcoin forum in 2014



 A caption : the guests and interaction among audience in “the second session of Guangzhou Shenzhen Bitcoin forum in 2014”

   In April 27th, the Misters of the main domestic Bitcoin trading platform gathered in Shenzhen University participating in the second " Guangzhou- Shenzhen Bitcoin forum", and what greet them is not only the flowers and applause, but also the inquiries and questions from the Bitcoin lovers.

  The forum was hosted by National Key Laboratory of science and technology of  Shenzhen University . There are more than 200 users by applying online registration in. According to ShenTu Qingchun, who is in charge of the "Organizing Committee of Shenzhen Bitcoin technology and Industry Forum " , different from the first , the forum is co-sponsored by the Organizing Committee of  Bitcoin Forum in both the Guangzhou and Shenzhen regions. Especially,the Forum invited four leaders of domestic Bitcoin exchange platform to keynote speeches.(XuMingxing ,CEO of OKCOIN ; Bobby Li, president of BTChina ; Li Lin ,cofounder of Huobi;Qiu Liang,general manager of Peatio) . Besides,Luo Jinhai,the CEO of coinxu, which is an e-commerce platform in the Bitcoin industry chain, Yaoyuan, the cofounder of Btct.com, and  Hua Songxiu , CEO for CHBTC are also invited as the guests. The same to the present there are a number of mining machine manufacturers, information service providers, Bitcoin wallets service providers and other enterprises, covering the basic aspects of China Bitcoin industry chain. The forum can be called a feast in China after the biggest attention .

Trading platform invokes industrial pain? Reconsider the “Lever”


  In January 19th this year, the first "Shenzhen Bitcoin Technology and Industry Forum ” also attracted hundreds of Bitcoin lovers to participate.Moreover,with fully awaring of calculating the capacity and the ready power ,some participate make the judgement that "2014 is the first year of Bitcoin" . It has been over three months since the first forum. The collapse of the currency trading platform MtGOX , domestic speculations recently on the "415" event  , downward fluctuations Bitcoin price make Chinese trading platform the focus of the society. In the interactive sessions of this forum,  problems like the 100% reserve ratio of trading platform ,leverage, short mechanism, charge fees and financing currency are the most frequently asked problems. However,the users are very worried about the safety on the exchange, they expressed dissatisfaction with the short-mechanism, and the  on-site participants also point out that the pace of  financing currency is too large. Faced with these problems, exchange platform between the exchanges are not unified, Xu Mingxing ,the CEO of OKCOIN,who has ever been very insisted on short mechanism , with LiLin,stated that it is necessary to reconsider the problem with the pause of  lever, but whether it can ultimately perform needs to be observed.

Bitcoin industry chain: who is to be the leading role?

   After several years’ development, the industry chain of Bitcoin has built the basic outline. Among them, mining, chip production, mining machine assembly, trading platforms, investment, wallet store, online payments, and other aspects of the business alliance have basically filled the Bitcoin vertical industry chain.

  The ups and downs of the market does not seem to hinder the footsteps of the capital, the derivative applications and services around the Bitcoin is more, indicating that more people recognized its value. Gaps in the domestic industry chain has become the capital of field of competition and IT entrepreneurs . Industry and market changes cannot be predicted. On one hand, the so-called bad news and good news stimulates continuous Bitcoin prices or inflation; on the other hand the capital is quietly grabbing beach layout in each industry chain of Bitcoins . In addition to the existing industry, according to the application industry chain report of organizers ShenTu qingchun , he listed 6 possible direction application examples from "existence" to "digital assets and information" , which more far-reaching Bitcoin future can be seen. Bitcoin exchange is now the protagonist in the industry chain , but in the future, letting Bitcoin into our daily life  is more likely to be the core of Bitcoin related enterprise .

Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzhen: the concentration of Bitcoin enthusiasts

   ‘Chu Xiahu’ ,based in Shanghai,is one of the interaction guest ,says “I still remember ,just in last year ,we don’t have such big gathering in shanghai, if I wanna paticipate in such kind of activity ,I have to pay a special visit to Beijing.” As a Bitcoin enthusiast, he is also the co-founder of Shanghai-Bitcoin entrepreneurship camp which has been promoting the development of related applications of Bitcoin. According to his introduction, Shanghai has held seven times of off-line netizen parties. Even though there is no public statistics, people in the industry universally acknowledged that first-tier cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and so on with their resources superiority and economic development have become the concentrations of Bitcoin enthusiasts.

  The four cities of Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzhen have seized the Bitcoin chain vanguard ,among them, Beijing, Shanghai and Hangzhou and so on being the major exchanges area and gathering places for information service providers of Bitcoin. The salon for Guangzhou Bitcoin enthusiasts starts at the same time with Shenzhen among which there is no shortage of low-key ‘miners’ groups, while Shenzhen captures an area with its mining machine industry and e-commerce platform. As a major financial center in China, Shenzhen is likely to become an important incubation bases for the development of Bitcoin industry with both its geographical advantage to be adjacent to Hong Kong and its accumulation in high-tech industry. On the first "Shenzhen Bitcoin Technology and Industry Forums", Professor Zhang Wei, dean of Shenzhen Research Institute in University of Science and Technology of China once said that Shenzhen is a vibrant and innovative city which has always been passionate and tolerant with new things and Bitcoin is of no exception.

Shenzhen common awareness of Bitcoin: industry chain needs supervising


  According to the forum 's partner--- Principal of coineve ,“ since Bitcoin industry is a kind of new things and it is very easy for people to misunderstand its running as well as the lack of institutional assurance, some Bitcoin companies will do harm to the whole industry chains and affect society’s perception towards it. So self-regulation appears to be very important. The host and co-organizers had thought to develop an industry self-discipline paper to quantify industry Benchmark but because of the immaturity of conditions, this forum will reach a common awareness based on which then to try to set up industry associations. At the end of the forum, the organizers take the initiative, together with Xu Mingxing,  Li Qiyuan, Nicholls ,  Li Lin ,  Qiu Liang, Yao Yuan , Chu Xiahu , Guangzhou Bitcoin salon responsible Chile bit , Hua Songxiu, Luo Jinhai, Shenzhen Bitcoin Forum Leader Shentu qingchun raise their hands to pass the vote and then to disseminate.

  According to organizers, the forum plans to hold on a quarterly basis , during which small salons will be adopted, aimed at gathering more human intelligence and committed to promoting the advancement and development of Bitcoin industries and its applications.
19  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 2014年第二届广深比特币论坛-比特币深圳共识:产业链需要法律监管 on: April 28, 2014, 10:38:23 AM
比特币深圳共识:产业链需要法律监管

       ——“2014年第二届广深比特币论坛”召开


 
图说: “2014年第二届广深比特币论坛”嘉宾与现场观众互动

    4月27日,国内主要比特币交易平台的老总齐聚深圳大学参加第二届“广深比特币论坛”,迎接他们的,不仅有鲜花和掌声,还有来自广大比特币爱好者的质询和发问。

    论坛由深圳大学ATR国防科技重点实验室主办,有超过200网友通过网上申请的方式报名参加。据"深圳比特币技术与产业论坛组委会"负责人申屠青春介绍,与首届论坛有所不同,此次论坛由广州和深圳两地的比特币论坛组委会联合承办,特别邀请正处于新闻热点中心的交易平台老总Okcoin总经理徐明星、比特币中国总裁李启元、火币网创始人李林、貔貅交易所总经理邱亮等作主题演讲。同时还邀请到比特币产业链上的电子商务平台币须网CEO罗金海、比特汇总裁姚远、中国比特币总经理花松秀等作为论坛互动嘉宾出席。同到到场的还有多位矿机生产商、资讯服务商、比特币钱包服务商等企业,基本囊括了中国的比特币产业链的各个环节。此次论坛,可以称作比特币产业链在中国备受关注后最大的一次盛会。

交易平台引发产业之痛?重新考虑杠杆问题

    在今年1月19日,第一届“深圳比特币技术与产业”论坛同样吸引了数百名比特币爱好者的参与,有与会者有感于比特币的强大算力和产业的蓄势待发,曾作出“2014年是比特币元年”的判断。至今距离首届论坛已过去三个月,比特币世界发生了交易平台MtGOX倒闭事件,同时国内近期也对“415”事件有诸多揣测,比特币价格向下波动,中国交易平台成为行业与社会关注的焦点。此次论坛互动环节,问到最多的问题就是交易平台的100%的准备金率、杠杆交易、做空机制、收取手续费以及融资融币等问题。现场玩家对交易所的安全非常担心,也表达了对做空机制不满,而融资融币也被现场参与者指出步伐太大。面对这些问题,交易平台之间意见并不统一,一直坚持做空机制的OKcoin总经理徐明星和火币网李林都表示要重新思考这个问题,考虑暂停杠杆,但能不能最终执行还需观察。

比特币产业链:谁来唱主角?

比特币经过几年发展,产业链已经基本构建轮廓。其中,挖矿、芯片生产、矿机组装、交易平台、投资、钱包存储、在线支付、商家联盟等环节已经基本将比特币纵向产业链各环节填充完毕。从横向上看,国外交易有Btc-e和Bitstamp平台,国内有比特币中国、火币网、OKCOIN等平台;钱包存储国外有Blockchain和coinbase,国内的钱包存储也有币加锁等新生力量;国外资讯有Coindesk这样的权威平台,国内巴比特货币前夜等网站也纷纷招兵买马、抢夺行业话语权;支付平台BitPay,已于去年获得李嘉诚旗下风投公司维港投资,支持商家已愈3万家,另外更有Overstock这样的电子商务网站公开支持,国内也有币须网这样的交易平台开始介入……

行情的跌宕似乎没有阻碍资本进入脚步,围绕比特币衍生的应用和服务越多,说明更多人认可它的价值。国内产业链上的空白,已经成为资本竞相角逐的战地和IT创业者投身创业的磁场。产业和行情的变幻不可预测,一方面是所谓利空利好的消息不断刺激比特币价格的跌涨;另一方面是各路资本不动声色地在比特币各个产业链上抢滩布局。除了现有的产业之外,在论坛组织者申屠青春的产业链应用报告里,从“存在性证明”到“可数字化的资产和信息”等列举了6个可能的应用方向,也能看到比特币更深远的未来。比特币交易所是现在产业链上的主角,但在未来,让比特币进入生活,更有可能成为企业竟逐的应用核心。

北上广深:比特币爱好者的集中地

作为互动嘉宾之一,来自上海的玩家“初夏虎”在面对下台听众发言时感慨道:“就在去年,我印象中还从未有过这样大型的聚会。要参加类似的活动,就要专门跑到北京去。”作为比特币的爱好者,他同时也是上海比特创业营的联合发起人,这个团队一直在推动比特币相关应用的开发。据他介绍,上海从年初至今已经举办过七次线下的网友聚会。虽然没有公开的统计,但业内公认的是,占据资源优势、经济发达的北上广深等一线城市,已经成为比特币爱好者们的集中地。

北上广深四座城池已经抢占了比特币产业链的先头。其中北京、上海、杭州等地区是国内主要交易所、比特币资讯服务商聚集地;广州比特币爱好者的沙龙与深圳同时起步,其中不乏一贯低调的“矿工”群体;而深圳则以矿机产业和电子商务平台占据一方。作为国内主要的金融中心,深圳既有毗邻香港的地理优势,又有高新科技的产业积累,很有可能成为比特币行业发展的重要孵化基地。在首届“深圳比特币技术和产业论坛”上,中国科学技术大学深圳研究院院长张玮教授就曾在致辞中表示:"深圳是充满活力和创新精神的城市,对新生事物一向抱有热情和宽容,对比特币也不例外。"

比特币的深圳共识:产业链需要监管

据此次论坛的合作伙伴货币前夜网站负责人介绍:由于比特币产业是新生事物,人们对它的运行极易产生误解,同时因为缺乏制度保障,一些比特币企业会伤害整个产业链,影响社会对比特币的观感。所以行业自律显得非常重要,主办方与论坛合作本想形成一份行业自律书来量化行业指标,但由于条件不成熟,先形成一份共识,在此基础上再尝试建立行业协会。论坛结束时,由主办方倡议,OKCOIN徐明星、比特币中国李启元、火币李林、貔貅交易所邱亮、比特币汇姚远、上海比特创业营创始人初夏虎、广州比特币沙龙负责人智比特、中国比特币总经理花松秀、币须网罗金海、深圳比特币论坛负责人申屠青春均举手表决通过,向外发布。

据主办方介绍,论坛计划每季度举办一次,期间也会举办小型的沙龙活动,目的在于凝聚更多人才智慧,致力于推动比特币产业和应用的进步与发展。

附录:《比特币深圳共识》全文

    也许有一天,就像离不开空气、阳光、水一样,人类也离不开电、互联网,或许还有比特币。
    用宽容消除偏见,用自信笑纳批评,尊重每个人的选择,这是比特币折射的精神。
    摒除一切意识形态的解读,因为这悖离它本质的技术意义。
    之所以爱好,是因为相信它吻合理性之美。之所以相信,是因为它符合内心的童真追求。
    比特币的去中心化思想,为人类未来提供更广阔的可能。
    我们认为,任何产业都需要在法律监管下前行;我们也相信,比特币的技术创新终将被人们所接受。
    如果说比特币有一个伟大的理想,那就是:让每个人的生活变得更美好。

注:以上内容已经发表在下列网站

和讯网         http://tech.hexun.com/2014-04-28/164318457.html

中华网         http://finance.china.com/fin/lc/201404/28/5382949.html

光明网        http://economy.gmw.cn/2014-04/28/content_11158892.htm

环球财讯网 http://www.hqcx.net/gncx/guoneiredian/20140428/406676.html

大众财经网 http://dzcjw.com/caijing/guonei/133005.html

财经中国网 http://www.fechina.com.cn/category/news/201404/2841326/1.html

中国财经网 http://finance.fecn.net/money/2014/0428/0428113483113483.html

深圳之窗     http://digi.shenchuang.com/digi/20140428/54684.shtml
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Declaration of the Second Guangzhou and Shenzhen Bitcoin Forum In 2014 on: April 28, 2014, 01:44:00 AM
2014年第二届广深比特币论坛宣言
Declaration of the Second Guangzhou and Shenzhen Bitcoin Forum In 2014

也许有一天,就像离不开空气、阳光、水一样,人类也离不开电、互联网,或许还有比特币。
The human race can't live without air, water and the Sun. In modern times we grew further dependences on technical innovations like electricity and the Internet. Someday, we may add bitcoin to such a short list.


用宽容消除偏见,用自信笑纳批评,尊重每个人的选择,这是比特币折射的精神。
Tolerance dissolves prejudice, a confident conviction welcomes all criticism, freedom of choice is treasured for individuals. Such are the spirits of the Bitcoin movement.



摒除一切意识形态的解读,因为这悖离它本质的技术意义。
Ideological debates do not form our essence, Bitcoin is a technology in the end.


之所以爱好,是因为相信它吻合理性之美。
We appreciate it, because of its unique and rational elegance.

之所以相信,是因为它符合内心的童真追求。
We believe in it, because of its appeal to our inner child, forever in pursuit of useful simplicity.

比特币的去中心化思想,为人类未来提供更广阔的可能。
The idea of decentralization opens up so many opportunities for human societies of every kind.

我们认为,任何产业都需要在法律监管下前行;我们也相信,比特币的技术创新终将被人们所接受。
We support proper regulation for every industry including Bitcoin, and we firmly believe the Bitcoin technological innovation will be embraced by all of us as a whole.


如果说比特币有一个伟大的理想,那就是:让每个人的生活变得更美好。
If we were to have a vision for the future, it will be, everyone's life will be just a little better.
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