The value of this forum is simply inmensurable. For me, a long time investor and long time loosing with cons and thiefs, it is very helpful to read the arguments about this DragonMint T16. 

I learned a very important lesson in business and investing, it is always a scam until proven the opposite and even then it still can be a scam.

I only ordered anything from Bitmain after hundreds of hours of research from a huge variety of sources and media types. Pretty much historicity at the business level.

I would never fork $40k into a machinery based on hype, pictures, word of mouth and people saying 'i bought it and it will work'.  I must see it from many, many, many youtubers showing it with numbers and noise and heat problems and all that is around this mining business, FIRST. That way (this is just one example) I have more points of networking to ask questions, more people to attest and to explain, more people to email and call.

As a test, try contacting Halongin (whatever name it is) and get a real answer. Ask for example the wattage used and if it is 220 or 110v. I bet no answer will come but computer generated generic stuff. Ask how can you have your money back? Let me see, we don't even know where to ask, do we?

It is a scam in my point of view until proven the opposite, and it will have to be lots of opposites.

Now, for those that will have those machines delivered, PLEASE, do share the facts, the evidences and allow us to contact you by phone, email or in person.

Fausto.

so you bought one? are you going to share your findings later? thanks.

[size=20ptThis site is a scam. Period.[/size]

I invested $50 for a 24 hours rental. The rig I rented was 100% uptime in their algo but half way through the rig was offline. They ""refunded"" me 38%.

I could never see how much I made with the rental, no where to be seen. Just a blind waiting.

Now I realized they charge an absurd fee for payout greater than I invested and I cannot take the money out.

A ripoff. Stay away from those crooked ones.