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1  Economy / Speculation / Re: Any observations as to patterns of price fluctuations in BTC prices? on: November 22, 2013, 05:45:56 PM
I'm sure there are computer programs from big financial firms day trading it already.  Forget about trying to time it.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here is the reason why the Chinese Communist Party is not stopping bitcoin. on: November 20, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
If QQ was estimated at 13% of China's cash economy and would have grown larger, what's from stopping bitcoin?

AnonyMint does make good points, but investing in bitcoin also guards you from inflation of your own currency.  I can see a lot of 3rd world countries using or backing their currency with bitcoins.  It's like buying a house, a house isn't going to grow new rooms, or gold isn't going to grow into more gold.
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here is the reason why the Chinese Communist Party is not stopping bitcoin. on: November 20, 2013, 06:27:46 AM
Well I think the amount of currency in the world is around 100 trillion.  bit coin is a very small percentage of that, it can get to 1% very easy.  I don't think people will dump it after that.  Many people keep their savings in the bank.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here is the reason why the Chinese Communist Party is not stopping bitcoin. on: November 20, 2013, 05:44:41 AM
My guess is that they want to be the leaders in bitcoin and have their citizens be the largest shareholders.

So you must disagree with my math that shows bitcoin is a ponzi scheme that will collapse to near 0 (after reaching a $trillions market cap first) and there is absolutely no way to avoid it (other than perhaps fractional reserve debasement with something like Ripple or an inflatacoin, altcoin). You probably didn't read the thread I linked to?

Why would they want their people to own something that will certainly be worth 0 in the future?

If they want to rule the future, the wisest would be to pretend they are allowing BTC, then let it run up and crash later so the all you males in the west are destroyed.

I've never understood why the goldbugs think China is their friend. Chinese upper-class are indifferent or hate us on a personal level (we have longer dicks and noses and we've been having all the fun at their expense). Try going to a high-class Chinese disco in Los Angeles, Hong Kong, or Beijing. If you are not well connected, you will be treated like a dog. I did. Of course that is a generalization and does not apply to all. And the middle and lower class don't hate westerners as far as I know.

The upper-ruling class want to win against you, not be your best pal. Be quite happy if you westerners are the slaves in the future.

The ruling class gets rich on the slow boat of leveraging their inside advantages in a huge economy. They aren't interested in speculations.

China is rising. Westerners are in their last desperate ponzi schemes. Going down.

I don't think China will win against our hitech industry just yet. But by 2033, we will see how much progress they can make. I rather expect the west will be the hitech leaders for many more decades. Yet most people in the USA are not in the hitech arena. How many of you all are programmers?

Your link, links to a bunch of other links, which I don't have the time to read.  I'm just going to assume the people the VCs hire who are investing millions in startup companies know more than you.  They could be wrong, but I'm placing my bets with them.
And to your other point, it's bet.  It's not going to crumble the US economy if bitcoins go down.  I don't think people are putting their life savings into it.

More chinese will have it the US people.
In these high class discos, money rules, I don't think race has anything to do with it.

Say if China took over the US in the future.  Not much would change anyway.  You'd probably be working at the same company, getting the same amount of money... maybe even taxed less.  I have friends that have moved to China for work, the big cities are not a bad place if you have a good job.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here is the reason why the Chinese Communist Party is not stopping bitcoin. on: November 20, 2013, 03:51:23 AM
The Chinese government isn't really communist anymore.  You can't compare them to Russia.  Their leaders are very smart and the government is run pretty well.  You could argue it's a better system than the United States where companies pay lobbyists to get laws passed and our elected officials are usually rich kids growing up in politics.  I'm not here to argue which is better, but you can't say the Chinese government is stuck in the communist 70s or 80s.  They have a long way to go with human rights, but they're getting there. 

The Chinese government probably had very smart people looking into what they could do about bitcoins and since they can't shut it down like the last virtual currency that was equal to 13% of their economy.  If they shut down a virtual currency before, why would you think they don't care about it?

My guess is that they want to be the leaders in bitcoin and have their citizens be the largest shareholders.  From what I've heard, you can really only move $50k out of China without some penalties or whatever.  It does seems strange that a country that doesn't want people taking money out would embrace bitcoin.  I'm guessing that they think it would be a losing battle to fight it.
6  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinbase ran out of BTC on: November 19, 2013, 12:31:34 AM

At least they are telling you that is the case. The wrong way to do this would be to "sell" bitcoins as requested, expect them to drop in value from some exchange, buy them, and then pass them to the user. If it doesn't drop in value, then after some time send a reply to the customer saying their super advanced machine learning algorithms flagged you as a fraudster.

Yeah, it's good they're honest about it.
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hearing on BTC in senate NOW on: November 18, 2013, 09:43:57 PM
Yeah, there is no problem in selling them.  They just can't get enough of them right now.  Someone said in the other thread, that they work like a brokerage.
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hearing on BTC in senate NOW on: November 18, 2013, 09:24:47 PM
Ending statement was really good. too!!  FYI, as posted in another thread.  Coinbase is out of bitcoins to sell.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hearing on BTC in senate NOW on: November 18, 2013, 08:39:57 PM
I think they're just saying, their department needs more money to track violations of bitcoins.  That's all they want anyway, a larger budget for their dept.  Win-Win.
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hearing on BTC in senate NOW on: November 18, 2013, 08:25:08 PM
I think they're basically saying, they can still arrest people using bitcoins.  I don't think it's that negative.
11  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-10-29 CoinDesk: Op-Ed: The bitcoin price has the potential to reach $1,820 on: November 05, 2013, 12:46:42 AM
No one has a crystal ball.  If bitcoin is a success and people start to use it, it'll be way more than 1,820.  Most people don't even know what bitcoins are.  Heck if a 3rd world country is smart, they'd just change their whole currency to bitcoins or pay people in bitcoins and the value of bitcoins would skyrocket.  You can't predict how fast it will go up or go down.  Anything can happen.
12  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin watch or necklace bling on: September 16, 2013, 11:01:39 PM
Same can be said of people wearing $100k earnings or other jewelry.  At the club you want people to know how rich you are.  Any amount of risk is worth picking up hot chicks.  I'd feel a lot safer with a $200 necklace showing that I have 100k bitcoins than a $100k diamond chain around my neck.  What do you think is riskier? I'm not suggesting everyone do this, but it's a great way to be a baller without having to hire extra security. 

Wow! I had no idea that such attitudes existed outside of the fantasy world of TV and movies.

I'll admit to being shallow, I have no problems with that.  I can pick up chicks with my good looks, gamerscore, and breakdancing skills, but many people pay money to look good.  Why does a handbag cost $50,000?  Why do some cars cost 10k while other a mil?  People buy expensive stuff to impress people.  I don't want to get into the moral aspects of this, but people buy stuff to show that they're richer than the next guy.

This is a great way to show that you're richer than the next guy, but you don't actually have to buy anything and it's not physically on you.  I guess bank of america could also come up with a necklace too.  It would just be a lot cooler if it were bitcoins.  Also you would have to make it so you couldn't copy the necklace and you couldn't put a fake number up, but that's a given.  All that stuff can be worked out.
13  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin watch or necklace bling on: September 16, 2013, 10:26:59 PM
Same can be said of people wearing $100k earnings or other jewelry.  At the club you want people to know how rich you are.  Any amount of risk is worth picking up hot chicks.  I'd feel a lot safer with a $200 necklace showing that I have 100k bitcoins than a $100k diamond chain around my neck.  What do you think is riskier? I'm not suggesting everyone do this, but it's a great way to be a baller without having to hire extra security. 
14  Other / Beginners & Help / Bitcoin watch or necklace bling on: September 16, 2013, 09:15:54 PM
Someone should make a watch/braclet or a LCD you can hang from a chain that shows the amount of bitcoins you have.  That would be sweet.  I don't have the time to put this on kickstarter or anything, but please some do and give me a shout out.  This is great bling, without having to buy stupid diamonds or anything.  And no-one is gonna rob you at gun point with this bling.
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