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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Just a warning that Sapien Network ICO is a scam. on: February 08, 2018, 03:31:12 PM
They keep saying accepting people in rolling basis for beta, but is there trully anyone accepted for beta or they just lying.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ⚡ Sapien Network - The Web 3.0 Social Network of the Future ⚡ on: February 08, 2018, 03:04:45 PM
Complete scam.  They don't even have an office.

http://scamya.com

do you have proof then? if so, then drop it here. so everybody can discuss about it.

ETH Pegged to $1,000

Despite the recent price drop we wanted to remind you that ETH is pegged to $1,000 for our pre-sale. We are keeping our word like we promised  Cheesy

Sweet FIAT to ETH to SPN deals right now

THE PRESALE IS LIVE! Wow! Over $14M has been raised in the first day


Information from telegrams

is this for real? 14M just for the pre sale?  Shocked  do they have hard cap for the pre sale then?
They do have a beta but that doesn't mean it work.
1.They claiming that they accept people for every day.But all of my friend and other people in the group include me, never get any mail for acceptence in Beta, even they claim that presale contributer will be priority for beta.
2.People in the Beta may be Fake too as same as Facebook all of them is bounty hunter no real user. The is no real user of beta.
3.They got no office, When asking why Admin keep claiming that, They are an decentralized so they dont need office. But Whitepaper Clearly say that the coin is decentralized but beta isstill need severs to run it.
So can't conclude they are scam but it make people doubt about them. Their answer don't realy fix the question. If they want people to trust them they need to applied people to their Beta not just talking.
I Know they are here to so if they read this i hope they will do some thing. If they legit action is required for building aa trust comunity. They say that they were make to fight fake news.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: January 22, 2018, 03:24:25 AM
One more week pass. All i got is "they expecting to" refund next week, let me geust again next week they will another anoucement they will do it the week after . This happen exactly in KYC countries adding, that took them 6 weeks to add 3 countries. When the hell they have right to keep people money without their agreement, i believe this is criminal.

Hey Problems of Hdac.

Please wait for next week, perhaps you might be surprised.
Thank you very much for your patience.
Please accept my sincere apologies for your inconvenience.


Okay I will hold my eye open, let see your surprise. I don't need any anouncement any more. It take you guy a week can't even start refund, it will probably take you guy months to finished refund
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: January 20, 2018, 02:23:43 AM

I'm not understand what will happen with investors who did not complete KYC form before 15th of January. Will be they refunded? Why this requirement was applicable for investors only and was not apply to bounty hunters? If I understand correctly KYC procedure related to token distribution? Or it is related to depositing of btc?
Could you explain.
Thanks

Hi German Klimenko.
The KYC process is for the token purchase.
Which isn't relevnt in the case of the bounty hunters.


I'm not understand what will happen with investors who did not complete KYC form before 15th of January. Will be they refunded? Why this requirement was applicable for investors only and was not apply to bounty hunters? If I understand correctly KYC procedure related to token distribution? Or it is related to depositing of btc?
Could you explain.
Thanks
HDAC is acting like a scam. They have lockup our money for 6 weeks and now they said it will take time for them to review the refund. We stuck here because of them now we have to keep suffering from there failure of adding our country and review the refund.

Hey DannyH.
Thank you for your patience.
I'm really sorry for the inconvenience.
I hope you will receive your refund ASAP.

Announcement on Hdac TGE results and refund instructions

The KYC process has closed since January 15, 2018. Therefore, all TGE procedures are closed.

We have received all data from Intrum (IDnow), our KYC company, on January 16. We therefore notify that each participant’s private information have been safely stored under full responsibility of Hdac’s person in charge of privacy protection.

Total of 2,057 participants from worldwide have participated and out of them, 1,627 participants were successful in KYC authentication. We thank all participants and deeply express our apologies for any inconveniences caused for KYC procedures.

We will send a separate notification email to those (did not proceed KYC, failed KYC, transferred less than 0.1 BTC, participated outside period etc.) who are relevant for a refund which resulted in approximately 430 participants.

Currently, we are double-checking with participation details for unsuccessful KYC and unqualified participation. We therefore request for your kind understanding as it may take some time to check each participation to prevent any errors.

Please note that we will soon update the date and detailed instructions for refund. We are expecting to proceed from next week and therefore, we strongly recommend to double-check the refund wallet address which was inserted by each participant.

The transaction fee for refunds will all be on Hdac and therefore you will receive the exact BTC amount as participated. (However, the transaction fee for participating is excluded.)

So about 20% of participants failed their KYC.
Why don't you do KYC before this crowdsale?
They are very bad, idont want to say but they acting like scam. i try to do KYC before crownsale, but my country not added, i asked amazix team that will my country get add or not and they say they will add soon so i sent them my bt but turn out 6 weeks passed they only added 3 more countries. There policy seem very scam too, that we have no right for asking refund if we can't pass KYC. I have wait for 6 weeks and now keep waititng for refund. I don't know will they refund or not. But what happen with KYC i no longer trusted them.Last time when i aked them about the refund policy they baned me.


Hey there Problems of Hdac.

I'm really sorry to hear about your experience with Hdac.
I can promise you that Hdac isn't a scam and Hdac won't lock away your money.
I hope the process will run smooth and fast, and you could receive your refund very soon.
Of course they won't, because they did already, the end of today my money has been locked up for 7 weeks
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: January 20, 2018, 02:14:51 AM
One more week pass. All i got is "they expecting to" refund next week, let me geust again next week they will another anoucement they will do it the week after . This happen exactly in KYC countries adding, that took them 6 weeks to add 3 countries. When the hell they have right to keep people money without their agreement, i believe this is criminal.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: January 18, 2018, 12:06:24 PM
Announcement on Hdac TGE results and refund instructions

The KYC process has closed since January 15, 2018. Therefore, all TGE procedures are closed.

We have received all data from Intrum (IDnow), our KYC company, on January 16. We therefore notify that each participant’s private information have been safely stored under full responsibility of Hdac’s person in charge of privacy protection.

Total of 2,057 participants from worldwide have participated and out of them, 1,627 participants were successful in KYC authentication. We thank all participants and deeply express our apologies for any inconveniences caused for KYC procedures.

We will send a separate notification email to those (did not proceed KYC, failed KYC, transferred less than 0.1 BTC, participated outside period etc.) who are relevant for a refund which resulted in approximately 430 participants.

Currently, we are double-checking with participation details for unsuccessful KYC and unqualified participation. We therefore request for your kind understanding as it may take some time to check each participation to prevent any errors.

Please note that we will soon update the date and detailed instructions for refund. We are expecting to proceed from next week and therefore, we strongly recommend to double-check the refund wallet address which was inserted by each participant.

The transaction fee for refunds will all be on Hdac and therefore you will receive the exact BTC amount as participated. (However, the transaction fee for participating is excluded.)


So about 20% of participants failed their KYC.
Why don't you do KYC before this crowdsale?
They are very bad, idont want to say but they acting like scam. i try to do KYC before crownsale, but my country not added, i asked amazix team that will my country get add or not and they say they will add soon so i sent them my bt but turn out 6 weeks passed they only added 3 more countries. There policy seem very scam too, that we have no right for asking refund if we can't pass KYC. I have wait for 6 weeks and now keep waititng for refund. I don't know will they refund or not. But what happen with KYC i no longer trusted them.Last time when i aked them about the refund policy they baned me.

7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: January 18, 2018, 03:20:24 AM
The market cap is quite large, I think it is not good for investment, but Korean people like this project, it will go moon.
Thank to them my money just go air 40%.I bought btc to sent them at 18000usd and they say they will refund soon it about 10000 today. I think when they refund it about 7000. VERY WELL DONE HDAC TEAM
me too. They are also claiming that they need to seperate unqualified participator and unsuccess participater. That mean there will be a risk that some of us will not get refund. I very worried for this even my country not been added.

They are day thief!!!!!

Maybe just plain dumb or still stuck in red tape of fiat world.Experty KYC is taking minimum 14days. It is dumb to do KYC via middlemen in brave,new decentralised world of crypto which stands against middlemen. However they have announced refund on numerous occasion so think of it as a forced HODL and do HODL till fall of dollar bubble.

There is no other choice now. Just hope btc will not die. If btc die who will responsible for my money. I swear i will never ever do any thimgs relative to Hdac again. They are unresponsible
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: January 17, 2018, 01:49:06 PM
The market cap is quite large, I think it is not good for investment, but Korean people like this project, it will go moon.
Thank to them my money just go air 40%.I bought btc to sent them at 18000usd and they say they will refund soon it about 10000 today. I think when they refund it about 7000. VERY WELL DONE HDAC TEAM
me too. They are also claiming that they need to seperate unqualified participator and unsuccess participater. That mean there will be a risk that some of us will not get refund. I very worried for this even my country not been added.
Let me guess they are going to wait untill btc become very cheap then buy and refund us.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: January 10, 2018, 06:04:27 AM
Do you guys think it will dump when it hit exchange or 20x like qtum
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IoT-Chain on: January 09, 2018, 09:53:24 AM
The telegram team no llonger in contact with the team be carefull guys
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: December 30, 2017, 03:02:16 AM
Okay the Amazix has Blocked me on telegram. There is a guys who ask for refund and the team say that the kyc extend day has been make clear by the team.
Then What i say is the guy was right,
1.None of people stuck at KYC want to extend period,every one keep asking about refund, what they want is fixed, and answer if they can fix or not if they cant just refund, why they have to wait kyc end, it not fair refund and kyc is 2 diffrent things
2.KYC Problems is the team problem not Participator problems, they have no right to extend KYC at first and no right to tie up someone money when they cant promise that they will add their country to kyc.
3.People doesn't care what Hdac doing with IDnow but they have no right to delay at first
Then they block me, i didn't use any bad word. The team behave is unrespected when people saying bad about them. Amazix wrote to be scam fighter not scam hider.

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