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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ⛏ ⛏ ⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: April 23, 2018, 07:11:03 AM


So respectfully, I have two questions:


1) do you or will you get a test rig to see if the promised specs are fulfilled?

2) have you, or will you visit personally the manufacturer in switzerland, before officially signing the multi-million euro deal for the new A1?


Edit: thank you. My questions got answered  in the latest Q&A video



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I couldn't watch all of that I skipped through , do u mind sharing the anwers ?

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Malik Murzashev said, before buying something like the A1 he would ofcourse check out the site and want a test rig, to see if the specs are valid.  Malik explicitly said he is not planning to buy A1 or any other, before personally checking it out. He also said something of talking to various companies and will decide depending on the offers. Furthermore they are trying to get offers for the next gen rigs, for the obvious reason, that there is no point in buying old tech. And according ro  IRM the new rigs are basically ready, the companies just want to rid get of their old rigs before announcing the new ones.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ⛏ ⛏ ⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: April 22, 2018, 01:56:58 PM
What that website sais makes no sense they claim to be able to do all different algorithms.

"
Unser errechneter Algorithmus kann alle künftig denkbaren Blockchain Anwendungen schneller und energieeffizienter als gegenwärtig marktüblich verarbeiten."


"
Our calculated algorithm can process all blockchain applications conceivable in the future faster and more energy efficient than currently available on the market. "

The only chips that i know of that could come close to do what they claim are Fpga's and Asics out perform those by a long shot and those Fpga's would be extremely expensive.

The picture of that special cooling system seems to come from.

http://news.3m.com/sites/3m.newshq.businesswire.com/files/press_kit/additional/novec_immersion_cooling_data_center2_0.jpg

The only other thing they show is made in photoshop.

I find the claims they make highly unlikely especially that a no name company would just appear out of no where and find the golden key to mine everything when there are companys spending Billions in this space.

Maybe IRM believe what these people are selling i cant visit their intentions but as a miner im extremly sceptical on what is beeing sold on this website.



Don´t forget they say it´s ASIC, with a code that can not change!
and FPGA need normaly more power then ASIC, so this can not work.
In the about us, they are talking about own research Lab and Years of experience.
We specialize in the development of high-performance processors for data center technologies.
Our development team has different software and hardware patents.


All this with a funding Capital of 50.000 CHF, in 6 month.


https://www.home.ch/de/mieten/detail/gewerbe-industrie/unterkategorie-gewerbe/in-Wollerau/106161233/ thats where they work

Better is this page, there are a lot Offices in this Building, this is the administration Site, but don´t found Bitswiss in the list of Companys.

http://sihlegg23.ch/#mieter

So respectfully, I have two questions:


1) do you or will you get a test rig to see if the promised specs are fulfilled?

2) have you, or will you visit personally the manufacturer in switzerland, before officially signing the multi-million euro deal for the new A1?


Edit: thank you. My questions got answered  in the latest Q&A video


3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ⛏ ⛏ ⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: April 22, 2018, 11:28:06 AM
What that website sais makes no sense they claim to be able to do all different algorithms.

"
Unser errechneter Algorithmus kann alle künftig denkbaren Blockchain Anwendungen schneller und energieeffizienter als gegenwärtig marktüblich verarbeiten."


"
Our calculated algorithm can process all blockchain applications conceivable in the future faster and more energy efficient than currently available on the market. "

The only chips that i know of that could come close to do what they claim are Fpga's and Asics out perform those by a long shot and those Fpga's would be extremely expensive.

The picture of that special cooling system seems to come from.

http://news.3m.com/sites/3m.newshq.businesswire.com/files/press_kit/additional/novec_immersion_cooling_data_center2_0.jpg

The only other thing they show is made in photoshop.

I find the claims they make highly unlikely especially that a no name company would just appear out of no where and find the golden key to mine everything when there are companys spending Billions in this space.

Maybe IRM believe what these people are selling i cant visit their intentions but as a miner im extremly sceptical on what is beeing sold on this website.



Don´t forget they say it´s ASIC, with a code that can not change!
and FPGA need normaly more power then ASIC, so this can not work.
In the about us, they are talking about own research Lab and Years of experience.
We specialize in the development of high-performance processors for data center technologies.
Our development team has different software and hardware patents.


All this with a funding Capital of 50.000 CHF, in 6 month.


https://www.home.ch/de/mieten/detail/gewerbe-industrie/unterkategorie-gewerbe/in-Wollerau/106161233/ thats where they work
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ⛏ ⛏ ⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: April 21, 2018, 08:06:44 PM
Did you even read my past posts? (click on my profile link). Everyone can clearly see I was critical of ice rock mining at first.

Instead of making baseless claims, read some proper research like this one:

https://icoforensicreports.tumblr.com/post/170698385383/forensic-analysis-of-ice-rock-mining-2nd-ico
Don't worry about Bitpotus, he is a conspiracy theorist and everything is a scam unless he decides it is not.   Cheesy

Read his posts and look at his signature, he thinks he is the Crypto Po Po.   Grin

He's right most of the time though ,,

You believe that there is a new Asic miner about to come on to the market that IceRockMining has exclusive access to and the company that created them, that they allowed the announcement of this new miner to be done by IRM instead of doing that themselves ?

What exactly do you think the Value add of this pretty much unknown mining company would be for this swis manufacturer and why would they Only sell this miner and disclose this information to IRM instead of doing what Every other company that sells miners does is to Sell to everyone that can afford to buy their product ..


Does that make ANY SENSE TO YOU AT ALL ?

If so please do explain.
 


You are just Trollolo.


Why can't you react normally to people's questions? If only to ease the mind of investors.

These are normal, warranted questions, don't you agree?

Yes, please answer the question. A legendary member should deserve the respect of getting a dignified respond.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 31, 2018, 02:01:53 PM
Not interested in FUD either. But in my understanding they are in government legislation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bank_of_Kazakhstan

Its not. Central banks are purposly not part of goverments.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 31, 2018, 12:23:13 PM
Guys, what are your plans on this issue?

Kazakhstan will prohibit cryptocurrency trading and mining

https://blockchaininvest.io/kazakhstan-will-prohibit-cryptocurrency-trading-and-mining/
Guys, what are your plans on this issue?

Kazakhstan will prohibit cryptocurrency trading and mining

https://blockchaininvest.io/kazakhstan-will-prohibit-cryptocurrency-trading-and-mining/


The national bank, isn't the government. That is just their opinion, which like all national banks, they try to present as a governmental statement.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 30, 2018, 07:27:22 AM
Well looks like they succeeded. The FB rating crashed....
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 21, 2018, 10:06:22 AM
@minerbobbert I think you have not looked at the web very well hehe. On the web it says the following: Crypto exchange entry 10.06.18

Crypto exchange entry?? WTF did that mean..?

Regardless of whatever that means, these tokens are not on ether delta or any other exchange.

Rock 1 is on the exchange. Rock2 is only tradable from june onwards.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 12, 2018, 08:46:49 AM
BE AWARE: they ban in their Telegram chat for uncomfortable questions.

It is my only original message I've got instant ban for:

Quote
Hey guys I have a few questions about your project:
1. In your documents it is mentioned that the designation of the property is vegetables storage. Do you have any permission from the officials to do mining there?
2. We all know how sometimes the business in post Soviet countries is made… What is your protection against government, police, guys in masks, another rich Kazakh individuals just coming at your place and arrest/raid the bunker and get all the equipment out?

Banning for questions in the chat that was created for this purpose is a red flag for me. Even if it's not a scam, it is at least showing their relation to investors and that they are hiding potential risks from people, who don't know the local specificity of business and Russian/Kazakh language to understand the docs.

Honestly these questions are messed up to say the least.
Question 1) implies you think their plans might be illegal and they are stupid enough, not to know that it is illegal.
Question 2) Implies that Kazakhstan  is so goddamn corrupt, that you need the mafia or some other private militia  to protect you.

Now do you really see nothing wrong with these questions?

There is nothing wrong with first question. It is clearly stated in their document that the "purpose of the land is the service of vegetables storage". If you want to do something else, you have to make an official claim to the government that you want to make something else on this land and want to change its purpose, and it is costly and time consuming, often ending up with rejection.

They are not stupid enough, but they are "entrepreneurial" enough to close their eyes to this and don't inform their investors.

But will the "goddamn corrupted government" close its eyes to this misuse of the land when the farm starts generating its first incomes? I don't think so.


Apparently you really aren't capable of understanding how insulting these questions are.


what nonsense is this person talking about here?

Insults our government.

Do not invest in our project. This person has a very negative energy.

Yea some people really are messed up in the head :s
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 11, 2018, 07:28:25 AM
BE AWARE: they ban in their Telegram chat for uncomfortable questions.

It is my only original message I've got instant ban for:

Quote
Hey guys I have a few questions about your project:
1. In your documents it is mentioned that the designation of the property is vegetables storage. Do you have any permission from the officials to do mining there?
2. We all know how sometimes the business in post Soviet countries is made… What is your protection against government, police, guys in masks, another rich Kazakh individuals just coming at your place and arrest/raid the bunker and get all the equipment out?

Banning for questions in the chat that was created for this purpose is a red flag for me. Even if it's not a scam, it is at least showing their relation to investors and that they are hiding potential risks from people, who don't know the local specificity of business and Russian/Kazakh language to understand the docs.

Honestly these questions are messed up to say the least.
Question 1) implies you think their plans might be illegal and they are stupid enough, not to know that it is illegal.
Question 2) Implies that Kazakhstan  is so goddamn corrupt, that you need the mafia or some other private militia  to protect you.

Now do you really see nothing wrong with these questions?

There is nothing wrong with first question. It is clearly stated in their document that the "purpose of the land is the service of vegetables storage". If you want to do something else, you have to make an official claim to the government that you want to make something else on this land and want to change its purpose, and it is costly and time consuming, often ending up with rejection.

They are not stupid enough, but they are "entrepreneurial" enough to close their eyes to this and don't inform their investors.

But will the "goddamn corrupted government" close its eyes to this misuse of the land when the farm starts generating its first incomes? I don't think so.


Apparently you really aren't capable of understanding how insulting these questions are.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 10, 2018, 10:27:11 PM
BE AWARE: they ban in their Telegram chat for uncomfortable questions.

It is my only original message I've got instant ban for:

Quote
Hey guys I have a few questions about your project:
1. In your documents it is mentioned that the designation of the property is vegetables storage. Do you have any permission from the officials to do mining there?
2. We all know how sometimes the business in post Soviet countries is made… What is your protection against government, police, guys in masks, another rich Kazakh individuals just coming at your place and arrest/raid the bunker and get all the equipment out?

Banning for questions in the chat that was created for this purpose is a red flag for me. Even if it's not a scam, it is at least showing their relation to investors and that they are hiding potential risks from people, who don't know the local specificity of business and Russian/Kazakh language to understand the docs.

Honestly these questions are messed up to say the least.
Question 1) implies you think their plans might be illegal and they are stupid enough, not to know that it is illegal.
Question 2) Implies that Kazakhstan  is so goddamn corrupt, that you need the mafia or some other private militia  to protect you.

Now do you really see nothing wrong with these questions?
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 10, 2018, 06:15:01 PM
To ensure a constant profit. Reliability is a very important factor when one offers a service. People love earning every month more but they hate earning less. I'm asking because they mentioned in the contract the issues of rigs breacking but didnt go into strategies to overbridge such technical issues. It's just a question out of curiosity:)

I don't think you understand mining.

Due to difficulty increases, mining equipment is continually going out of date. If you left spares hanging around, they are depreciating daily.

Steady payouts are determined by number of blocks found and variance.

It would be very poor planning to leave working equipment unplugged just to be able to replace defective miners to ensure a consistent hash rate.

Yea i dnt know alot about mining. This is the first mining project that i find interesting enough to particupate. So apologies for some silly questions Cheesy
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 09, 2018, 01:28:18 PM
To ensure a constant profit. Reliability is a very important factor when one offers a service. People love earning every month more but they hate earning less. I'm asking because they mentioned in the contract the issues of rigs breacking but didnt go into strategies to overbridge such technical issues. It's just a question out of curiosity:)
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 09, 2018, 10:09:15 AM
Another question, if a mining rig breaks down, do you keep spare rigs to prevent profit loss while they get repaired/replaced? 
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 07, 2018, 06:57:17 AM

Indeed, you will want this to be legally solid. Not just for our sake as investors, but also for your sake. Fact is shit happens and if you do not make your services legally binding and something goes wrong, you will have lawyer letters coming in from all over the world. You already are using smart contracts, so your lawyer will be able to draft something up. It is in our mutual interest that you get that sorted. T

The cryptocommunity got burned by a lot of scams, with one of the bigger scams being, the ponzi scheme Bitconnect. You currently have a lot of accusations of being another ICO scam.
Please take our advice a) Draft up a legal guarantee, that you will pay the percentages that you promised. b) get yourself audited, so that people know that a non-biased company can validate, that what you are doing is solid and honest.

Following this advice is only good for business, it will clear your name of the accusations of being a scam and/or incompetent  and you will receive solid trust from serious investors.

Dude are you a total noob to investing or crypto?

There are "NO GURANTEES IN LIFE" and especially in Crypto.

If you invest in stocks on the Stock Market do they come with a guarantee?  No they do not.

You either roll the dice and invest or you do not, they are not going to jump through hoops to satisfy a random newbie on this forum  you fool.   Cheesy

That was a terribly stupid answer, sorry. Of course there is always a risk. Nonetheless, yes there are also in stocks  contracts that need to be full filled. And requesting an audit is absolutely standard. Every serious crypto service/company is doing them, refusing to do so is a red flag because it lets everyone be suspicious of what you are afraid of...

16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 06, 2018, 08:20:28 PM
Hi Dias,

Thanks for answering my question. I have another one.

Do investors have any protections for our future income? What guarantee do we have that after some months or years, you won't simply just stop paying the dividend? Because we are buying tokens and not shares, so we have no legal entitlement, so really we are just relying on good faith of the team?


Our reputation is our guarantee.

Please check the background of our CEO. 10 years of Apples store holding in Kazakhstan

Reputation works until scam artists flee with the money.  Legal guarantee would be better.

That, and fear of retribution if they scam money from some of the larger investors. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Indeed, you will want this to be legally solid. Not just for our sake as investors, but also for your sake. Fact is shit happens and if you do not make your services legally binding and something goes wrong, you will have lawyer letters coming in from all over the world. You already are using smart contracts, so your lawyer will be able to draft something up. It is in our mutual interest that you get that sorted. T

The cryptocommunity got burned by a lot of scams, with one of the bigger scams being, the ponzi scheme Bitconnect. You currently have a lot of accusations of being another ICO scam.
Please take our advice a) Draft up a legal guarantee, that you will pay the percentages that you promised. b) get yourself audited, so that people know that a non-biased company can validate, that what you are doing is solid and honest.

Following this advice is only good for business, it will clear your name of the accusations of being a scam and/or incompetent  and you will receive solid trust from serious investors.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 05, 2018, 01:26:49 PM
Would I make more holding onto $10k worth of BTC or $10k worth of ROCK2 tokens is the question. BTC can be worth $50k by July and I wouldn't have made a $ yet with Ice Rock Mining.

Ice Rock will multiply your investment.

your 10k will just be converted to BTC and that's it.


In our case, we have reinvestment strategy!


Do i understand you vcorrectly: if i invest now and the bitcoin value increases by  500% by then, will i get 5x the amount of rock2?

Thankyou for answering our questions Smiley
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: March 02, 2018, 07:08:10 PM
After the Main ICO ends in may, is that it? Or will further ICOs follow?
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: February 27, 2018, 11:46:51 AM
So if I were to reinvest my profits, is there a limit where you would say "no more" or is the only limit the storage space in the mountain?

Second this reviewer(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UmJbAMxxVs) claims that the actual ROI is 64.7% What do you say to his analysis?
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